JimBob2232

The problem is that Mularkey is not in the mindset of developing a QB. He is in the "win at all costs (to save my job)" mindset. This is the problem. Also dont discount the possiblity that JP may actually BE injured.

Dont forget he will be 33 years old on opening day. He is no spring chicken

Well, I did pretty well considering I lost Deuce McCallister, Javon Walker, Darrell Jackson and Micheal Clayton dropped dead. No playoffs in my league, just 17 weeks. I am sitting pretty at 8-8 right now, might win next week as my opponent has Peyton Manning and David Gerard on his roster.

I think bringing Favre in here to mentor losman could be the BEST move. Losman is in love with Favre...and could only help the kid get better.

Exactly guys. This year proved NOTHING. JP knows that, we all know that. I think he can be a great QB in this league...but he needs to PLAY

I know...had to try though..it was too good to let go.

Do Kelly Holcomb and Mark Campbell count

Tennessee - 113 (Plays MIA, JAX) Detroit - 113 (PIT, NO) Arizona - 113 (PHI, IND) Buffalo - 113 (CIN, NYJ) NY Jets - 116 (NE, BUF) Baltimore - 118 (GB, MIN, CLE) Now, if buffalo goes 4-12...the jets get 5 wins. You have to assume detroit will beat NO. Baltimore is crushing GB at the moment, so assume 5 wins for them. That leaves Ten, Buf and arizona as the only teams with 4 wins. Unfortunatly GB is losing...so they stay ahead of us for now. They can beat Chicago, and seattle should be resting week 17. I honestly think, SOS in our favor, the draft goes like this. 1) SF - Bush 2) Hou -D'Brick or trade down 3) NO-Lienert 4) GB 5) Buf

I believe we came to the conclusion that this was wrong because it only calculated SOS based on the games played instead of on the entire schedule...

Oh, but yes they are out of the running...Hou plays SF week 17, so one of them will have a maximum of 3 wins...

a) Houston plays SF, guarenteeing one of them will have 3 wins. More importantly, one of them WILL have 13 losses, thus the #1 overall pick CANNOT be buffalos. b) The true value of the #1 pick this year is not reggie bush, its being able to trade out of the #1 slot and get a TON for it. c) Buffalos stength of schedule is weak, and thus will pick above all the other 4 win teams (assuming we lose out and SOS does not change). d) GB/NO/SF/NYJ/HOU are the only teams tat can finish with less than 4 wins, and thus the only teams which CAN pick ahead of buffalo (again assuming we lose out, and SOS remains the same). GB plays Baltimore tomorrow, and will play a resting seattle team week 17. The jets play us...so if we lose out, obviously they win game #4. NO plays detroit next week, a very winable game. So its VERY PROBABLE if we lose out, we wind up with the #3 pick behind HOU and SF. Now, that said, #3 is a tough spot, have to see how it plays out, but it might be hard to move from there unless there becomes a clear top 3 candidate. Right now, Bush and Leinert are (in my opinion) a clear #1 and #2, but #3 becomes somewhat fuzzy, and thus teams will be less likely to desire the pick. Should be interesting.

I personally liked the one at the detroit game today. It said "dont hate the players, hate the GaMe (with a and e written very small and GM written very large)

Before this week, the bills had a very bad SOS. Worse than almost any team in the league. I do not know how this weekends outcomes affected that.

I have to admit, it IS the first time i have heard it used with buffalo in it...

wow. original.

Hired as a "consultant" not a head coach

Probably bad timing for this, cuz antonio brown had one heck of a game last night for green bay...

The thing with losman I like, is that i rarely see him make a mental error. He doesnt take a sack when he could throw it away. He knows when to scramble and he finds open receivers. Sometimes he makes bad throws, but all in all he shows some good progress to me.

This doesnt include today...but Losmans stats vs. Eli's last year 103/201 (51.2) 1159yds 7TD/5int Rating 70.1 04-05 Eli Manning 95/197 (48.2%) 6TD/9int Rating 55.4 So before you go completly jumping off the JP bridge, give the kid a chance. And if you have been watching him AT ALL, the kid has shown signs of brillance. His performance today was not THAT bad. It was poor, but he had MANY MANY dropped passes today.

Only problem...4 years ago we were sayign "I hope we end up with a great lineman, such as Bryant McKinney or Mike Williams"

Well, I dont know. Houston will not win out. I conceed this point. Even if they do somehow manage this, SF will not beat BOTH stl and Jax. #1 is out of reach, really. SF is playing Hou, so they only need one more win. Playing 2 road games against Jax (a suddenly very different team) and St. Louis (who is one of 2 teams they already beat this season). Unlikely, probably, but this is the NFL.. #2 is not all that far fetched.

Jahnyc, I think you are missing the point. A high pick gives you TONS of flexibility (usually). If we are sitting there, and Reggie Bush is on the board, we are in the money. Even if we decide we dont want Bush, we can get a kings ransom for the pick. Heck, ricky williams was worth a whole draft board! People will go crazy for him and leinert. I hope one of them is on the board when we pick so we CAN trade down and get our lineman.

I just posted some details on this in another post. but long story short, we can get #1 overall with a miracle (Hou winning out amongst other things). If we lose out, we cant pick lower than sixth (provided the current strength of schedule does not change). Our SOS is the WORST among teams who will have the same or worse record than us, giving us the best pick among all 4-12 teams We move up a spot if NYJ beats MIA or NE, if NO wins one more game, GB wins 2 more games, or if SF wins 2 of their next 3 (sounds implausible, but they do play HOU once.) #1 is just about impossible, because not only does HOU need to win all 3 games, but SF would need to win their other 2 games (STL and JAX).

Oops...Typo...That was my point though. Peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat

I decided it was time to take a look at the draft order for next year. Here is what I found out. Executive Summary: If Buffalo loses out, the worst they can pick is 6th (Based on current strength of schedule). They move up the draft order by either 1)winning a coin flip with NYJ or NYJ winning one of their remaining non-buffalo games (NE/MIA), 2)Green Bay winning 2 of their final 4 games, 3)San Fransisco winning 2 of their final 3 games 4) New Orleans winning one of their remaining games (ATL/CAR/DET/TB), or 5) Houston winning out. If all 5 happen, buffalo CAN pick first. Details: I took the worst teams in the league, presently. (in no specific order) Buffalo (4-9) Jets (3-10) Balt (4-9) Cleveland (4-9) Ten (4-9) Houston (1-12) Oakland (4-9) Detroit (4-8) GB (2-10) NO (3-9) ARZ (4-9) SF (2-10) (Note: I left all 5 win teams out of this calculation, as buffalo is assumed to lose out for this calculation and thus all 5 win teams will be below us in the draft order) I then assumed each of the above teams would lose all their games against teams not on the list (to be conservative as to buffalos draft position). Buffalo has the worst strength of schedule of any team on the above list (NYJ is tied). So, taking SOS into account, the draft order, would be as follows. 1) Houston 2) SF (GB has very good SOS) 3) GB 4) NO 5-6) BUF/NYJ (Coin Flip) 7-10) Balt/Ten/Arz and one of Oak/Cle (NOTE: Oak and CLE play each other, one will have 5 wins and slide down to the 5 win group) Buffalo cannot pick lower than 6th. I then looked at scenerios that would have to play out for Buffalo to move up the draft order. Houston would need to sweep Jax/Arz/SF to fall below Buffalo If GB can win over Detroit tonight, and knock off Either Baltimore, Chicago or a resting seattle week 17, they would also join the 4 win club and slide below buffalo due to SOS. SF would need to win 2 of 3 against Jax/StL/Hou to fall below buffalo. In addition, Buffalo would move up to sole position in the top 5 if the jets can knock off Miami or New England. If NO wins one more game (ATL/CAR/DET/TB) they also fall below buffalo So, if your keeping track at home, Root for GB to win tonight, and another game this season. So, in summary, if buffalo loses out, the worst they will pick (assuming SOS does not change..) is 6th, the best they can pick is #1. The strength of schedule (or lack thereof) is really in buffalos favor this time.