dave mcbride
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Moulds also was very open about how the interception in the Saints game was JP's fault and not his. Even if Moulds was 100% correct, was it REALLY necessary to hang JP out to dry like that? Why not be a pro and keep your mouth shut about that? All the guys in the locker room would know who was at fault.
Be a leader dammit.
uh, losman said it was moulds' fault, as i recall ...
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My problem with Moulds is his is a short-sighted desire. He is not taking the longview. If he honestly believes Kelly Holcomb is taking the team to the Super Bowl, fine. If not, what's the point?
I don't see this team growing under a 32 year-old journeyman pocket passer with a few light-em-up games under his belt, a career spent in majority as a backup, and a 4-9 starting record. If Moulds does, fine. I want to see 100 yard games from him and at least 10 victories from this so-called playoff team. Anything else is a gigantic setback.
i'd be thrilled if the bills made the playoffs -- thrilled. if the only way you're going to be satisfied is with a super bowl appearance, i've got news for you: you're not going to be a happy camper for a looooooooooooooong time.
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don't ya think there's just a teensy chance that the vets on the team asked him to be the spokesperson because, he is, ya know, the longest lasting vet on the team and the media's longtime go-to guy (i.e., spokesperson)??????? and don't ya think that his sentiment -- that he wants to go all out and win and not give up on the season -- is an admirable one?????
some people are so freakin' dim and/or looking to slag anyone or anything that it makes me somewhat ill.
and by the way, moulds was entirely polite and evenhanded about the situation.
god forbid -- we harbor a player who actually wants to win and doesn't want to throw in the towel after four games. run him out of town, i tell ya!! better yet, don't wear his jersey!
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It's very easy to make the argument here though that Anderson is at least as effective as the guy he's taking over for- I actually think he's better on rushing downs than Edwards- he has a run stuffer's base and sets his lower body up well, something Edwards has never been able to figure out.
Abandoning the season when the AFC East is looking like it's been kicked down a few steps would be crazy right now- there's no reason we can't find a way to take our first division game and not simply play the "development" excuse if in fact they feel JP's too spooked to come out playing well, and you'll have to admit that you wouldn't want to bet JP will "come out playing well" against Miami; why not see how Holcomb does out of the chute with the added benefit of a full week of practice as the starter?
I expect JP Losman to be our starter for a long time, I also expect our Head Coach to do EVERYTHING in his power to win this season, especially considering that our division appears to be there for the taking, probably at 9-7.
Also this might allow the coaches to get off their reliance on JP's toolbox and get back to a play action scheme that our OLine is far better suited to play than the blaster drill passing offense they've given us so far.
Bottom line is that there's lots more to experience than simple playing time. It might be time we get our future star quarterback some experience in the victory department. That might even prove to him that he doesn't have to carry this team to grab the gold ring, he simply needs to go out and execute. And that might be the best thing about starting Holcomb- both our talented sophomore and our coaching staff might get back onto a page in fundamental offense they've been ignoring while they've all been so star-struck by JP's feet.
a truly wise post.
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Young QB's would never start if every coach went by your rational. Aikman, Elway, both Mannings...all of them (and many many more) struggled and their teams sucked their first year as starters. It’s what happens, but the payoff is well worth it.
And actually, I really don't have a problem with them sitting JP down here and there...but you don't do it when the team is entering the easiest part of the remainder of the schedule. You do it if for the road games at Oakland and New England. You protect the kid, you don't prevent him from having success. Look at the success he had against a weak Texans team at home? You think he couldn't replicate that against the Jets or the Dolphins at home? That's how you build his confidence and let the kid learn. This move reeks.
Do you really think they’ll sit Holcomb if the team wins these two games? Holcomb is getting to start vs. the 2nd and 3rd easiest games on our entire schedule (the Texans game being the easiest). If the team does well (which is should) JP isn’t going to sniff the field again until this team is officially eliminated from the Playoffs which should be somewhere around week 13-14. That makes this move a giant waste of the season. Yeah, we’ll have fun next year when we have to suffer through JP’s growing pains again.
This move is horrible, period.
the dolphins are not an easy game. as well, the jets defense is quite good.
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I think JP needs to be benched. He's obviously struggling, not utilizing his skills, and is completely confused and overmatched out there. He's inaccurate, his mechanics are effed up, and he's not looking at the correct WRs.
I don't think that benching him is an indication that he isn't the future of the Bills. I think it indicates that the Bills need to win NOW, and you do that by putting your best players on the field.
Right now, JP isn't playing well at his position. He needs to sit down, watch the game, get his equilibbrium back, etc. Also, there's too many idiot fans to actually think Buffalo's losing streak is all his fault.
The biggest problem with people in general is that they are incapable of understanding that blame can lie in multiple places. Generally people here curse the coaches, curse donahoe, curse the defensive players, or curse Losman. Truthfully, it's probably a bit of everything. But that isn't simple enough for some people to wrap their heads around.
JP and his development is just a piece of the puzzle. That's important, but so is winning NOW. We won't win now with a QB who misses open WRs, or takes a safety, or fails to recognize a blitz. So we need to fix that.
We also can't win with a D who can't stop the run. So we need to fix that as well.
We can't win with offensive playcalling that doesn't utilize it's best player - Willis McGahee.
Lots of things need to be fixed. It's not just Losman, but he's part of the puzzle. If KH could make two plays that JP couldn't make, we might have a better chance of winning. So benching JP for now is just a small part of what needs to change, but it certainly needs to change.
i agree completely with this.
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lori - i suspect that this is the case. RCW takes these dolphins games pretty seriously -- remember when he lobbied the league to ensure that the phins stayed in the afc east for realignment? he doesn't like losing to them. he also has a long history as a meddling owner. i'm not applying any value judgement to his meddling, by the way. it can be either good or bad. he went with johnson, and i suspect he ordered the canning of bledsoe after traveling to the ralph to watch the pitt game last year. as well, it was he who ordered levy to fire henning. marv refused, and retired instead. i'll never forget henning's response to criticism of the offense's and especially the o-line's sorry play -- basically, you can't make silk from a sow's ear.
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I seen the play. I've also seen o-lineman not even miss a play when that happens let alone 3 weeks. He's an o-lineman he's not running down on kick-offs.
And I've been whipping Mike pretty much since he's been here. After I seen through his charade and realized we missed on this very important draft pick.
that was a pretty serious injury, and my guess is he has a high ankle sprain. you might want to quit while you're ahead.
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how will you respond if the bills are 3-3 after week 6 and in first place based on a better afc record than the pats, who are also 3-3?
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It's balance. You can have 4 sticky-buns in your secondary, but if your DL and LB's get ragdolled, any team with an ounce of brains will run you to death and eat up the clock to the point that the defenders, even the shining backfield stars, are tripping on their tongue.
Top flight db's become mediocre when any qb gets an extra second or two.
and top flight defensive linemen are useless against good passing teams if the secondary can't cover. that's why DTs, pass rushing defensive ends, and cover corners are the most highly prized commodities, and why they are at the top of the salary scale.
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i actually buy some of the criticism of lindell - you do want a guy who can make a long kick. but norwood was money? remember that raiders game in 91 where he missed like 3 kicks (one as time expired) and an extra point? and - dare i say it -, super bowl XXV? christie is a better example. he'd miss some, but he was pretty darn good with the game on the line.
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the claim that cornerbacks are easy to find and aren't as important as defensive linemen or offensive linemen or even linebackers is so wrong. i'm cynical enough to believe that people say this because the bills are relatively solid at cb, and they can't really B word that much. so instead they B word about what they *can* B word about and claim it's the most important aspect of a team.
if you want proof, look at teams with very solid talent on the defensive line in the past 6-7 who had lousy secondaries: New Orleans, St. Louis, and even Minnesota. Bad secondaries have killed them. you need guys who can cover - that's why personnel people like donohoe, john butler, jimmy johnson, parcells, rich mckay, belicheck/pioli, and banner/reid draft so many of them in the early rounds and pay relatively big bucks for free agents.
on an unrelated note, i've seen i think 3 posts claiming that lindell missed a "pressure kick" against NO. um, no. it was the first half, and the bills were down 10-7. in fact, lindell didn't miss a pressure kick against the steelers last year - the bills were ahead at the time. a pressure kick is a kick at or near the end of the game with the game on the line. all kickers miss kicks, although lindell, who is 33-38 (87%) since the beginning of last year, misses fewer than most.
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I had to work sunday and didn't get to watch the game live. So I was listening to the game off sirius the buffalo feed and got a different perspective... Anyway murph would call the play and vanpelt would chime in after play fell apart and constantly over and over and over again play after freakin play his comment would be loseman had to dump it of to the running back all the rec's were covered no gain or repeatidly at least 4-5 times I heard vanpelt say the pass was off target to MOLDs because molds hesitated coming out of his break or molds didn't seem to run out his route,
it was unbleivable,,this coming from a former QB....constantly ...well murph molds could only get a hand on the ball because ect....ect...ect... after watching the game on tivo today I could see alot of what he was talking about but the tv announcers were totally ripping on jp....I would suggest people listen to the radio and watch the game this week and listen to the difference in the analysis from vanpelt it has more validity in my mind ,,,TV peolpe are LAZY and stupid, always have, always will....just my opinion..........
wait a secnd - i listened to the game on radio too, and avp ripped losman a new one on the misread that led to the INT. and, after the game, he went after him again, saying that moulds made the right read and shifted from a post into a crossing route, and that losman needs to see the deep help (which he didn't read).
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don't know - it was before the qb controversy occurred. the bills lost the first 3, and then johnson had a great game against sf to put the bills at 1-3. he then got hurt against indy early in the 1st quarter, and you know the rest ...
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(this is in relation to the crisis enveloping mike tice and the vikes)
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/s...gs/12810669.htm
In the meantime, the Vikings are trying to settle down, as they try to regroup for an important stretch during which they play four of their next six games on the road.
"I was in a situation where we were (0-3 in 1998)," linebacker Sam Cowart said, recalling his rookie season with the Buffalo Bills. "It was bad. I told the guys it was a lot worse than it is here, and we went on to make the playoffs. We can definitely turn it around."
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Sounds like quite a few excuses there. Counting losses as victory? Please.
Isn't 2000 the year that wade said "we're out of the playoffs" even though we statistically weren't? Indy was in the same boat, but they actually made the playoffs. It was sickening to see a coach give up like that.
i'll certainly grant you the "we're basically out of the playoffs" comment, which was dumb. however, if you can sit there and say that the NE game wasn't actually a bills win, well then, you're simply not a bills fan. that was without exaggeration the most obvious robbery in bills history. the bills won -- case closed.
as for home run forward lateral, it wasn't as clear cut, but it was certainly clear cut enough. that was no throwback. the worst was the angle they used -- a camera on the 20 yard line five yards behind the play which totally warped that simpleton phil luckett's view. granted, they still should have covered it, but it was an illegal play. if the right call was made, the bills would have won. it's pretty goddamn simple.
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of course you know there isn't a link, but it was alluded to in a number of outlets and pendry indicated that it was the case. you can go ahead and not trust me or whatever, but i have no reason to make this stuff up. phillips' sparse comments about it afterwards also indicated (if you can read between the lines) that flutie was his guy. phillips isn't a backstabber, and in any event he's certainly not going to jeopardize his future as a head coach candidate by calling out an old guard owner. i mean come on.
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Hello? Are you there? Did you watch that season? Do you realize how divided the locker room was? Do you remember the homerun throwback? His statement that he had "two starting QBs"? That the Bills paid 5 mil / yr to two QBs! That he couldn't choose one?
Yeah, that QB situation is probably the best example of poor skill-position player management I've ever seen.
sorry todd, but that was primarily due to wilson. wilson *ordered* phillips to start johnson against tenn, and the next year as well. of course, it didn't help matters when flutie outplayed johnson in 2000. i'll grant you that it did rip apart the team.
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you've GOT to be kidding.
1998 - 11-5 (as always, i'm counting the "just give it to them" game as a win) and an extremely close loss on the road against miami.
1999 - 11-5 with one playoff victory (i count home run lateral forward as a victory)
2000 - 7-4 before losing 30% of the defense to injury in the first half against tampa.
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I will agree that Wade had a very strong loyalty to his friend, but there is NO WAY that guy should have been anywhere near an NFL sideline. Ronnie Jones took one of the best special teams units in the league and made it just about the worst. Wade had no problem with making DeHaven the scape goat for the home run throw forward and then replacing him with a guy with no special teams experience. He should have been willing to tell his friend, "hey, sorry, we tried. Go back to college for a few years, get some more experience and maybe I can bring you in as a quality control coach." Actually, the ST coach he should have refused to fire was DeHaven.
Didn't Wade want to move Jones to Linebackers Coach? I can just imagine how that thought process must have worked. "Well, we've got a good linebacking corp, heck they're almost as good as special teams used to be. Ronnie can't f*** that one up, can he?" Sorry Wade, I think he could have.
Overall, I think Wade did a good job. It's a d*mn shame that one more than likely illegal fluke play ended up lining up the dominoes on him.
Dave.
this is right - wade wanted to move him to LB coach. for those who don't know, that was his natural coaching role. jones was also the defensive coordinator for buddy ryan's cardinals in the early-mid 90s, and oversaw a unit that was #3 overall one year. so in retrospect, wade moving him to lb coach wasn't so crazy. it was more like recognizing a job mismatch mistake and correcting it. moreoevr, ralph was in take no prisoners mode after the butler/aj smith meltdown and the flutie/johnson issue. fwiw, wade was a pretty good soldier about that, especially after ralph ordered him to start johnson against the titans.
Some Facts about Kelly Holcomb
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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the best post in a while. nice and succinct.