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Right on. And Buftex, very well said.
Someday I would like to hear the real reason for the demise of this team. I always felt that it was the DF/RJ fued. Wade really never recovered from it after DFs benching. And I always felt that was about our little egomaniac who put himself before the team. Lots of RJ jokes over the years, but when it comes to class, DF could have learned a few things from him.
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I think the reason that many of us are not excited about WM, aside from those who don't think he is very good, is that his words and actions suggest that he would rather be somewhere else.
We're Bills fans in part or whole (for most) because of Buffalo. Willis would rather hang in the Miami hood. What could be worst from a Bills fan's perspective?
I would venture to suggest that if Marv was the GM 3 years ago, Travis would have been signed to a long term deal. And Willis would only have visited once every few years.
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Have to throw my hat in. There is enough evidence and speculation to suggest Marv knew what was going on. While I too hoped for a trade down, I am now convinced that Buffalo had a great draft in terms of getting high quality, high character football players for this team. I miss TDs mastery of the draft board, but have a feeling that Marv has made moves to put together a real team.
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We overpaid for RJ, but the price went up with the other teams competing for him. With JP the deal was about right on. You always lose value trading future picks (ie, a 2nd is worth a 1st next year.) If everyone can just hold on for a couple years, JP may look like the steal - for us.
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Comp sounds about right, but I would like to see some creative dealing from Marv. Especially after getting a lousy 5th for Moulds.
How about getting STLs 2nd, and kicking back our 4th or 5th? It would be nice to hang onto both 3rd and get the 2nd. With the 2 3rds Im just not 'feelin' the third one.
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That is some seriously sissyfied fighting technique going on there. Too funny.
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I think you miss the point dawgg. That TD swung for the fences, that he "went for it" wasn't just about a popularity contest. The guy was a first rate wheeler and dealer. One of the best the NFL has had in awhile.
TD is no longer here because a) the team didn't win, and b) he pissed off Ralph with the sign business at the end of last year. He is not NOT here because he was bad at his job. Dare I say, if he was still here the Moulds 5th would be a 3rd.
People like to trash his drafts, but when we picked MW it was in a weak draft with plenty of other busts. He was hamstrung by the slot. Look back to the Henry draft. Sheer brilliance. The WM wasn't so bad either, eh?
But once people make up their mind about something at TSW, you are either too good to be human, or actual human excrement. This is not the mecca of balanced thinking. It is the home of the dog-pile.
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Something just occured to me. Not only did he make it more interesting for us. It seemed that we were pretty much front and center in the off season as a team on the move. He was a mover and a shaker that garned national attention.
It really is a shame he had to blow himself up. But I like how ajzepp put it:
"The guy took his shots, and I dig that."
That sums it up pretty nicely, doesn't it? Something we should all strive for, I dare say. Maybe this understanding can help the guy writing the next "he would take the high motor white guy" post. Maybe that guy will say "forgetaboutit" and leave it in the eithers of cyber space. Where it belongs...
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I'm going to go against the grain a bit here and defend TD on his Round 1 decisions over the years...
2001: Traded down for Nate Clements: hardly a shocking move, and it turned out to be one of the better moves he made during his time as GM both in terms of the decision to trade down and in terms of the player selected.
2002: Well, Big Mike as we know turned out to be a bust. However, he was hardly a shocking pick, and seemed like a safe one at the time. TD desperately wanted to trade down but couldn't find a partner.
2003: Managing to steal a 1st rounder from Atlanta in exchange for Peerless was a great move. Some would argue that Willis was a luxury pick, but if the team had elected to pick based on need, they would have selected Chris Kelsay, whom they ultimately grabbed in the 2nd round anyway. Besides, based on what we've seen from Henry since then, you'd have to agree that TD was forward-thinking in looking for a potential improvement. Considering the forfeiture of the original 1st rounder for Bledsoe, who gave us a great 2002 season (which inflated Peerless' value), we can say that we traded Price (the following year) plus 7 spots in the first round (the following year) in exchange for Bledsoe. Or, if you'd rather, we traded Price and Ty Warren for Bledsoe and Willis McGahee. I think you make that deal every time.
2004: Lee Evans was hardly a surprise pick, as he is the guy most scouts expected us to take. It's still early, but so far he seems worthy of the selection. The surprise that year was the decision to move up to get JP. Obviously the verdict is still out (See below).
2005: Our first round pick was actually JP Losman, whom we traded a 2nd and 4th for the right to get him a year early. There is little doubt in my mind that the team would have gone QB here if they hadn't done so the year before. The scouts identified an exceptionally week QB class in 2005, which is why they elected to gamble on JP in 2004. Again, with just 8 starts under his belt, it is too early to tell whether or not he willpan out. But he has no less chance of doing so than Jason Campbell or Aaron Rogers, the 2 QBs that may have been there for us. In fact, with a limited sample size, Losman looked BETTER than last year's #1 overall draft pick, Alex Smith. Being that the Bills don't have as much tied up (money-wise) as the Niners do in Smith, Buffalo is in a better position to cut bait if the front office determines that JP isn't the guy. The criticism for this draft hinges on the decision to draft tiny Roscoe Parrish in the 2ND round. Again, we will have to see how that plays out, but my guess is that TD knew that Moulds was not going to be back in 2006 and was making a contingency plan.
Clearly a mixed bag... However, even in the cases where we missed (i.e. Mike Williams), it wasn't as if the decision at the time was a crazy one. Still, TD seemed to enjoy the drama of draft day. In fact, he made at least one trade in every draft up until last season. My suspicion is that we'll find Marv and co. to be more "boring" in their moves. Of course, sometimes boring isn't bad.
Good, fair post. Seems like everyone wants to demonize him, but the guy had flair. More draft day drama then just about any GM Buffalo has ever had. I will miss his trades, his working of the board. Marv will bore us to death. Lets hope he can do as well as, say, Butler who was no friend to trading.
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I think that one part of the draft day equation that nobody's talking about is, what happening with Nate Clements?
He still hasn't signed his contract, and may be gone. So I wouldn't be shocked to see us pick a CB in round one. Or, have a draft day trade of Nate for another late first or early 2nd round pick.
A Nate trade would almost certainly have to take place before the draft as a sign and trade. To do otherwise would cause the Bills to lose their Franchise Tag for the duration of Clement's contract.
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Actually, Hawk makes more sense for them. There are many who think he is the top defensive player on the board, and possibly the best player in the draft.
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Ahhh...it feels good to REALLY hate the Dulfins again. They were starting become just another team.
Thanks Nick. You 'da man!
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Ultimately, yes. This is the root of the problem, after all.
Regardless of what motives any of us attribute to Ralph, one thing is certain. In this matter, what's good for Ralph is good for Buffalo, NY. He knows which trees to shake, and he's been shaking them. What comes from it, who knows.
Right on...
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That's funny, because I used to go the games in the good ole' days ('90-'94) and tickets were a lot cheaper than they are today, and they STILL didn't sell out until the week of the game! So the level of support today isn't any less than it was back then.
I know it's hard for people to keep facts straight, but ticket sales have nothing to do with what Ralph is crying about. The Bills already sell out. The problem is that the Bills can't keep up revenue-wise with these large-matket teams. There aren't enough big corporate sponsors in WNY.
This wasn't a problem when the NFL shared revenue equally. But the new carpetbaggers like Kraft, Snyder, and Jones, don't believe in fair play. They believe in "us first, screw the rest of ya!" They want the NFL to be like MLB: 10 power franchises, and 22 punching bags.
THAT is what Wilson is sounding the alarm over. The fundamental change in the NFL revenue formula. It looks like either you don't get it, or you like to twist the truth so you can have a laugh at Ralph's expense.
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Well put, and thanks for saving me the trouble.
To those of you whining about Ralph, or accusing him of whining, just remember this: his efforts are directly related to keeping the NFL playing field equal. It is not about him making more or less money relative to yesterday. It is about him being able to spend for players and coaches on equal footing with the big market teams. You know, the guys who sell tickets to practice, and game day tics for 2x what Ralph can charge.
In Bills terms, for you slow learners, that mean......drum role please......KEEPING THE BILLS IN BUFFALO! If you are still unclear, no problem, we can explain it to you again when the Bills move to lala land.
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My sentiments exactly. I was a huge lifelong Mets fan and I didn't even watch the WS they played in last. Greed has left MLB dead to me, and if the Bills move, the NFL will not even be an afterthought in my world.
Its happening even now. Yes, I am with SDS on his points, but the demise has been in progress for awhile. To wit:
Consider that it takes about $200 on average to take a family of 4 to a game. In Buffalo that means hard working people are putting out big cash to see a game that keeps jacking up the rates so that owners and and players can make even more outrageous money. And we listen as players dare talk about "feeding their family." Disgusting.
Why is it that such things must trend upward? I see why players wanted a bigger piece of the pie, but why o why must that pie grow like something out of The Blob? Why is it the prices are beginning to compete with a Broadway show?
History teaches us that such greed eventually blows itself up. It is only a matter of time before these knuckleheads kill the golden egg laying goose.
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Perhaps. Then again, it will also be the ruin of it.
Reading what Ralph had to say really p%ssed me off. With guys like Snyder, Jones and Craft railroading in a new (big market) commish, the NFL will be one step away from the fate of MLB. I can't tell you much about those guys, I don't watch anymore. Haven't in 15 years.
Since money makes the world go round, I suggest the NFL follow MLBs lead and bring back steriods. We can watch while all the player and team records fall. We may even get lucky and see a bunch of guys die on the field. That would be REAL entertainment. Screw the antiquated idea of rooting for your home team. Team loyalty. Player loyalty. That stuff is for pussies. We want ROLLERBALL!
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no, you are wrong because this is a different situation. It's not as if moulds will play for us and we just want to see what we can get. We need to get rid of him, he doesnt want to be here, and if we sit with him he will be a cancer to our team allllll yeaaaaar loooooong. We cant afford to not return phone calls, because his vaule will go down. The texans and everyone else in the league know we have to cut him, the only reason they are willing to make a trade is because they dont want the competition in free agency, hence the low round pick. it is the texans or any other team that has the advantage here not us, they dont need moulds, its not a life or death situation. They do not care if we dont return phone calls, they will just move on.
No, you are wrong.
Moulds would not have shown up at mini camp or any other team activity. He would dangle in the wind until Buffalo cuts him before the season starts - assuming he does not renegotiate. While the whole world knew (thanks Marv) that Buffalo would not carry his current salary, that does not mean that Buffalo couldn't take their own sweet time in addressing his fate.
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