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At this point, what difference does it make?

Maybe. I really wish the politics would be left out of this. I wish the media would shut the ***** up and trump would shut the ***** up. Hey maybe I'm really in the middle.

I think if someone is on a ventilator the medicine might not make a difference. Seems to be in the case in which the virus is beginning to spread. i also read a study in which doctors seem to think that ventilators are actually increasing the risk of death.

Honestly speaking, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just put someone like BB on ignore? My ignore list has grown faster than the COVID spread in the last weeks. Garey Busey has managed to stay off it since he seems like a nice enough guy.

As a whole, Italy is a flat broke country but the north is very rich and has an above average health care system so I disagree with your assesment.

The most important metric that will be available in the future is the antibody test which will give the policy makers a better idea of how many actually have the virus. It will allow for a better idea of the spread and the actual mortality and critical illness rate. Dan Crenshaw on Joe Rogan's podcast yesterday said it best, we retreated from the battlefield by shutting down the economy to allow us to regroup and come up with a strategy. This was necessary no matter what the outcomes actually are.

Yes and sometimes those models will be catastrophically wrong (see Italy and Spain ). In the event that our confidence of the models are low, best to be cautious.

There is no problem with having a discussion about the actual numbers but I’m getting irritated by many who are saying that the numbers are being inflated to cause panic. Models based on ever evolving inputs will show evolving results. The goal is to have the most precise data and we should all thank Italy and Spain for that sacrifice. For those thinking we are overreacting, surely they would feel differently if it was their parents in an assisted living facility where people are dying in high percentages.

Except idiots in Kansas who don't realize God gave them a brain.

Except that this virus spreads to other people when these people go to supermarkets, etc. Seriously you're beyond ***** stupid.

Ever been to japan? This will be the new normal in many places. I’m glad that I never have to shake hands with anyone again.

Because Florida didn’t take many precautionary measures and given the demographics, you should be expecting a greater spread.

Have you seen any studies that strongly support this hypothesis? Fauci has said this many times that this is virus is most likely seasonal but then you'd expect a complete slowdown of the virus in the southern European states and in Japan in the month of April

Well come to think of it, they did have some weird tattoos of an all seeing ... ah forget it.

Hamilton isn’t a big metropolis. I have friends who work and manage hospitals and this is their war.

I guess he doesn’t have many friends who are nurses.

By criticizing the methods taken into stemming the outbreak and the need for a vaccine.

@Deranged Rhino I’m curious to know in case you haven’t expressed it why you believe that this is being hyped? Have you heard of complete nursing homes being completely decimated by this ? Have you seen how my home country in which nursing homes also have people dying as the employees themselves are too sick to work and the people living there have no one to care for them ? Why do you continue to downplay this ?

As I posted above, the fact that a third wave is going on in Hong Kong and Singapore scares the ***** out of me.

Yes, there are tons of people who were wrong including yours truly. Can we all focus on a plan of how to stop this thing from shutting us down until 2030 or will we all linger on who was wrong when?

Though it doesn’t surprise me that models would be inaccurate based on the constantly changing inputs, it should scare you that places that has this under control like Hong Kong and Singapore are experiencing third waves.

Good post. I keep hearing about seasonality but I have friends who have family in Brazil who are having a hard time fighting the virus and it's summer there. I'm curious about Florida and how its doing in contrast to NYC.

It shouldn’t according to the studies that are going on.

The majority of the population can get a vaccine. This creates the herd immunity without overflowing the health care system.

I’m aware but vaccines have been effective in effectively annihilating many diseases. The flu is tricky as it has many strains while this virus appears not to. This is based on social distancing. I would like to hear the plan once they expect everyone to go back to work.