Beerstm
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What guy on the board would be a no-questions starter for the Bills at #8?
Ngata and Bunkley are both projected, AT BEST, to be 2 down guys their first year. Whitner will start from the beginning and he's a special teams terror. I'm not sure there was one other guy could have helped the Bills this much right now.
Offensive lineman will come in rounds 2 and 3. The draft is deep at O-line, although the only stud was Ferguson.
I do like that reasoning!
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The Bills filled a position of desparate need. Ngata and Bunkley both had question marks--Triplett helps fill the D-line hole.
Whitner does not have question marks--he's a fast strong hard-hitting safety who will maul on special teams. The Ravens would have nabbed him at 12, so taking him at 8 might not have been so bad. If the Bills had an offer from Detriot, AZ, or St. Luois, then they could have risked the trade, but it sounds like they got one of the only impact players (for them) available at that pick.
best and probably most accurate post i've read today
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you may want to actually wait to see him play an nfl game before ridiculing the whitner pick. to those who are lambasting marv, i challenger every one of you to tell me whether you had one smidgen of an iota of a fraction of an opinion one way or another about whitner prior to 1:25 pm east coast time today. as to whether the bills could have traded down and still got him, i challenge any one of you to provide a smidgen of an iota of a fraction of evidence that the team that followed the bills (detroit) didn't want him badly. and i think everyone would agree that the bills prior to today did not have an nfl-caliber strong safety.
by the way, here's what dr. z said about him:
No. 24 BENGALS: This guy will go higher because everybody's asking about him and everyone I talk to likes his game, which is aggressive and athletic. DONTE WHITNER, SS, OHIO STATE.
I've watched every one of his college games.... He never stood out to me like mike doss did. Never like clements or Winfield.. He was really an above average tackler and hiter.. but an average playmaker
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"The only first-round locks are linebacker A.J. Hawk and receiver Santonio Holmes. Hawk has a good chance of being the highest Buckeye pick since Orlando Pace and Shawn Springs went first and third, respectively, in 1997.
The highest pick since then was David Boston, eighth in 1999.
Linebacker Bobby Carpenter likely will go in the first round, and most projections have some combination of cornerback Ashton Youboty, safety Donte Whitner and center Nick Mangold as first-rounders, as well"
If your own school is not sure your worthy of a 1st round pick... I think marv should have traded down!
Chris Spielman had Whitner going in late 1st round or early 2nd.. I Know he is no NFL GM.. but I respect his opinion!
I can't belive I'm bummed an OSU player has been selected.... New low for me
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Whitner isn't that bad... but I agree... Marv messed up.. At least he is having fun playing GM!!! That is what is important
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huge buckeye fan here! But I have never been impressed with Whitner.. He is good and solid.. but not game changing.. he will be good.... with luck have a carreer like henry jones.... don't expect anything more!
To take him at 8 just amazes me... He is not that good... Whitner does not have that much upside!
oh well..
go bucks!
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He MUST guide the Bills to the playoff's.. or else=RJ
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I love ralph.. but he is an old, out of it, rich man. I'm glad he brought the NFL to Buffalo and kept it in Buffalo.. But he is an embarassment!
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As a fan of THe Ohio State University, I was not that impressed with him in college.
I was shocked to see him as a 1st rd choice. I thought Tim Anderson made more of an impact in college then pickett. And I'm not impresed with Anderson at the NFL level.
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smart move by the NFL... Force the cable company to pay to carry thier channel!
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Are you serious... You must really be hung up on that one 13-3 year huh?
Your right, We'd be lucky as fans to have one good year under DICK then hit the basement again for the next decade!
Expectations run high at One Bills Drive.....
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Since the majority of recent posters profess such in depth knowledge of the NFL (i.e. bashing the hire of DJ and predicting utter chaos and tragedy for the Bills as a result), I figure that there must be a lot of great potential coaches and GM's amongst our ranks.
As such, please vote accordingly if you feel that YOU could do a much better job then most current coaches and GM's in the league. I'm just a fan, and as such, will tip my hat to current NFL managements as knowing more than I do. But there are obviously a lot of you out there who have been overlooked as true NFL managerial talent. So here's your chance to stand up and be counted! The rest of us are truely in awe of you.
duey.. you've been on that Island too long
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Check back in three years.
2006- 2-14
2007- 5-11
2008- 8-8
15-33.
That will give the Bills a nine year record of 54-90. If we are sitting here in January 2009 with that record for the decade (or close to it) with no playoff appearances in 9 seasons and no playoff wins in 13 seasons, then we will be sitting in Los Angeles, San Antonio or Mexico because the Bills will be out of here.
But Remember DICK is a players coach and he is smart!
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Great article on TBD about the Bad News Bills
Just a coupel of Quotes:
"Jauron had gone just 36-49 in his head-coaching career, while Sherman was booted from the Packers' organization after compiling a terrific 57-39 record. As per the norm, guess who the Bills decided to go with? The proven winner? No, that would have made far too much sense. Yes, the Bills settled on Jauron."
"but they (Marv and Ralph) just flashed an enormous middle-finger to the Bills' loyal fan-base. From what I've gathered, Bills fans are a faithful, hope-filled bunch that will always stand by their football team. "
"Sherman was handed to the Bills on a silver platter. It was almost like he fell out of the sky just to save what has become one of the most embarrassingly awful teams of the new millennium....Now was the time for the Bills to finally make their mark and climb out of the endless hole that they've dug themselves into. Unfortunately, by denying Sherman, that hole just got a little deeper."
"Jauron has never really proven anything as a head coach, outside of one 13-3 season in which he was name the NFL's coach of the year. Heck, even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes."
"Dealing with the Bills is almost like watching the movie "Groundhog Day." The same lack of reasoning seems to flood One Bills Drive for every big decision they make, time after time. Even the Hall-of-Fame Levy has fallen under the team's spell of ineptitude."
Greatest article I read in a long time. So true! "Instant Classic"
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F*CK YOU MARV.
Round 1 (#8): Selection: S Donte Whitner
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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he better start! yikes... that shouldn't be an issue...
he will be fine in Buffalo.. but not top ten pick fine