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19 minutes ago, finn said:
That would be ironic, to trade Brown just when he's showing his potential, after years of him serving as a 6'8" swing gate.
No, if I'm Beane, I'm looking hard at trading Milano of all people. He's very expensive, 30 years old, we have a replacement in place with upside in Williams, and he's one of the few players on the roster who could garner a first-round pick in return. Continue the younger and cheaper trend and use that pick to trade up for Nabers.
How much of a difference to BTJ? Is it another Chase/Jefferson thing?
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Wild draft idea? Trade 2025 1st/2nd/3rd and move down 28 to 35 with AZ. for no.4
Then trade back a bit for a 2nd this year and 3rd next...
Then again for a 3rd this year and 2nd next.
Take BT. maybe 18 -20
Have 3 2nds and 1 3rd plus 2 of next years picks back.
Basically getting to no. 4 with 1 1st and 7 spots.
OMG 14 more days...
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It's kinda hard for me to really wrap my head around that list while seeing several names that could probably have asterisks if they had better QBs.
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4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
That’s a tough one. I love the idea of Ladd and Legette. I also love the idea of the top 3. Pearsall is a guy that I’m higher on than most. I like him more than Coleman (even at the same spot). Baker is another guy in that mold that you might be able to get.
I think that you need 2 for sure. The quality of the 2nd is dependent on who is the 1st. If your first pick is McConkey you can shoot for upside with your next pick because he has a high floor (if healthy). If your first pick is Coleman, you need a higher floor guy with your 2nd WR pick. You can’t draft 2 boom or bust guys.
Well one thing's for sure, and I'm betting it will happen is that...Beane has to at the very least, create a 3rd rd. pick. Late picks won't get us there and moving down into the 30s could kill the plan.
He's gonna have to use a pick from next year.
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17 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I agree 100% with this. McConkey can play the boundary and is polished. He can take targets early. Honestly of all of the guys that we talk about, with the exception of the top 3, he’s most capable of volume.
Yeah I think he's the one guy who can come in and take 70 targets like he's been here for a year already. However, I would love Ladd and Legette, which leads to question..Do you secure that monster 1st, then settle for a Pearsall?.....or take Ladd and hope to get a Coleman?
I'm all for trading next year's 26-32 pick to a team like GB for 41 and 88.(they are just one of the teams with 2 2s and 2 3s).
My hope would to be Ladd at 28 then maybe move 41 to 37 for Legette. Then I'm looking to lock down Sweat and willing to move to the mid 50s to get him.
Btw Maason Smith at 88
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I'm not ready to toss him to the curb. The bigger question I have is why we can't play man against teams when we need to? After hearing a recent presser from McD,
I believe we're gonna see some changes in defensive adaptation this year. Something I thought we might never see with McD.....although he's worlds better than Frazier.
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15 hours ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:
In the PFF simulator I can trade into the top 5/6/7 with #28, #133, Minnesota's 2025 2nd, and Kaiir Elam. No chance in hell something like that actually works right? Are they just using Kaiir's draft status plus 5th year option when calcing his value? Any chance a man scheme team that liked him 2 years ago values him as a day 2/high day 3 value for a trade up?
On the flipside of moving up that far, could Beane make 1 or even 2, trade backs for two 2s and two 3s? ....maybe settle around 20 for a Thomas or Latu?
I think he would be brilliant to pull that off.
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14 hours ago, billsfan89 said:
We can quibble about the targets but the targets available aren’t going to be more than a 5% increase and I think a lot of the Diggs 160 target volume is not going to be absorbed just by two rookies. Shakir is going to likely have 45 more targets and Kincaid 20 more targets. That’s already chipping away 65 targets from Diggs.I think the Bills will need impact from a rookie and that’s why it is imperative they draft one with their first pick. But I do doubt that the Bills fortunes are resting on a depth WR who’s at best only going to be a WR4 and get 40-50 targets if there are no major injuries and it’s probably closer to 30 targets more likely if health is not a factor.
If the Bills can find a rookie to who can have a good impact and absorb 70-80 targets efficiently then I think the Bills will be in a good spot. I think they don’t have to draft a WR at pick 60 if there isn’t a good one there or the value is much greater at another position of need.
They can find a WR at pick 128 or 133 to add depth and take on 30-40 targets.
The first thing that popped in my head when I read the bolded was...Ladd McConkey.
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18 hours ago, dave mcbride said:
29” arms — very short for nfl receivers. Diggs is 31.25.
Does catch rate matter in this?
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7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:
Can you elaborate on/clarify the initial trade up to 4 that does NOT include 28? Is the cost only 2025 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rd picks? To get to #4? The future picks value doesn't even come close. Maybe I'm missing info.
Love to hear an outlier opinion like this -- can you say more?
I'm just going on what a caller proposed. I suppose 28 for 35 could also be in the mix, but the point being....buying a premium pick while turning it into more picks in the 1st 100 for this year while recouping a 2nd and 3rd for next year...if need be. All for the actual cost of a 25-32 pick next year.
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A guy on OBL made a really cool what if scenario....
What if BB traded 2025 1st/2nd and 3rd to get to 4 with AZ. (we keep 28) AZ. would still have a 1st rd. pick later.
What if BB then traded back ... probably twice, ( to 8-12 then maybe 12 to 20)) getting an extra 2nd and 3rd for this year and next.
Gives us 2 1sts 2 2nds and a 3rd. not to mention regaining 2 for 25.
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I don't mind that they have us taking Ladd at 28. But I do have a problem seeing Latu going 1 pick ahead of us. As far as instant impact player, IDK if I cannot jump on that chance having to only go up 1 or 2 spots
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Well, I'm still taking him and hopefully he makes it to 60. If he was from Ga. and someone died in a horrific wreck because of his involvement, this story wouldn't last more than a day....and then Philly would take him in the 1st round.
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Thank God, he might make it to 60. we hit on that 2 years in a row.
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3 hours ago, zevo said:
yeah. that first window closed due to him aging out.time for phase 2. good luck Stef.
3 hours ago, zevo said:yeah. that first window closed due to him aging out.time for phase 2. good luck Stef.
The only thing that should have closed was Diggs hands around the ball...
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4 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:
Go get Ayouk. You know what you are getting.
Move up a few spots and get Latu.
Boom - this team would be set.
Now we need Von to be better (not great) but better, Milano to be recovered, DQJ to have an impactful season and Curtis Samuel and Ty Johnson to have good seasons.
Then - Brady to scheme it all on O the way we know he should.
Then Cook and Allen cook it up.
Kincaid, Knox, Rasul, Bernard. BOOM baby.
Only 2 new names listed above. And this is a powerhouse. Hearing Beane and SF are in talks anyway... its moving.
Latu would be a home run!
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8 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:
We don’t know how good Joe Brady may turn out to be, but obviously coaching definitely matters. Andy Reid got rid of T. Hill and was left with Kelce, has beens (MVS) and rookies. The KC offense had its struggles and the team relied more on the defense but when the playoffs came they could rely on Rice and the others to make enough plays to win it all again. Reid had them ready to play.As the OP stated, this team is mainly Josh Allen. He’s the only one teams have to game plan for. So, when you don’t have the marquee players, it comes down to coaching and scheming. Look at the Niners. They do have the weapons in Kittle, Aiyuk , McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel, but Shanahan also figured out that you could have receivers running around all over behind the line of scrimmage so he used that to advantage. By season’s end, a couple of teams copied that approach but I don’t recall seeing the Bills try it once.
Good coaching comes up with ideas that the opposition isn’t prepared for. Then, when the opponents adjust, you try something else. This can make your team very successful, even with just very good players.
This makes me think of McD's presser (I think during the owners meetings) where he talked about the need to evolve and zig when they think you're zagging and wearing corduroys before they come back and related gibberish. I am encouraged by that given the coaching changes.....I think
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13 hours ago, Dr. Who said:
Some folks think Troy Franklin should be added to that list. I like Legette and McConkey. I wouldn't mind ending up with both of them somehow.
That would be my favorite pair. Let's say we take Ladd at 28.
Then trade next yrs. 1st to GB for 41 and 88. (They have two in each rd.)
Next yrs. 2nd to AZ. for 66 ( They have 3 3rds.)
That gives us:
28 Ladd
41 ( + a 4th to gets us to mid 30s?) Legette
60 ( + a 5 and 6 to get us to mid 50s?) Sweat
66 Walker
88 Fiske or Maason Smith That still leaves us 1 4th/2 5ths/ 2 6ths and a 7?
Those 1st 5 picks can all be hits at spots of needs.
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18 hours ago, GoBills808 said:
The reason we are losing in the playoffs is not for lack of impact players
It's because the defense lays down. It's as simple as that. They need to play better
And there it is...We signed Von to be "A closer" and got 8 sacks for 9 digits. IMO, the most impactful player we could sign is Latu. Can anyone imagine having a T.J.Watt on this line?...and he may just fall within a couple of picks from us. To me it's a no-brainer.
If I'm BB, I'm preparing for this possibility and getting a plan B ready to quickly use a 1st and 2nd next year to get right back in the game and come away with 2 good WRs.
There are multiple teams with two 2nds and two 3rds.
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1 minute ago, Nephilim17 said:
I wouldn't argue but a lot of mocks now have him going much higher. We'll see...
CBS Sports mock has AZ. taking Latu at 27. Oh Hell No
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On 4/5/2024 at 12:44 PM, Nephilim17 said:
Pass rush. And a 1-tech as a backup now but a future starter to take over for Daquan.
I can see them moving up to 26, maybe 24 and getting Latu. Then start dealing.
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I think Shakir has plenty of speed and ability for deep slants, posts and go routes. IMO, he's much more than solely a slot receiver.
BTW, I think catch percentage will be a major factor when it comes to drafting now.....at least I hope so.
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8 minutes ago, TOboy said:
Also, why wait for next year if you’re the G-men? You’re already at 6 in a strong QB draft. Why not just push in this year and move to top 4?
They should nab McCarthy at 6! Wouldn't that be a hoot.
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2 hours ago, MJS said:
He surely isn't seen as a starter. Just a backup to compete for a roster spot, I guess.
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If Thomas is gone and he makes it to 24-26, we gotta make the move.