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All beane had to do was take another WR mid round receiver this year and we wouldnt be having this conversation. For how long guys like Troy Franklin were sitting out there, Its like they deliberately made this a reset year when they didnt have to.
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30 minutes ago, Process said:
I think Beane was very careful not to trade picks from next year. It seems like they are planning on next off season being when they go for it and make some bigger moves.
It's disappointing, but I still think it's a team that can compete for a Superbowl this year.
Just feels like a ton of missed opportunities this draft with how many receivers we looked right past. What if Coleman flops and next years WR class is kinda awful like 2023s?
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1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:
Giant heads. lol
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14 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
Idk man we’ve hit pretty huge in rounds 3-7 (round 3 is technically day 2 but one of our trade backs got us a 3rd so I included it)
Fair point
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4 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said:
So we've got padding inside the helmets, then the hard shell, then the guardian caps added padding outside the hard shell. How about we add another hard shell to these so it can fully be a helmet inside a helmet? Is two helmets even enough? Maybe three would be safer...
I got u covered.
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5 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
Because nobody wants them?
Day 3 draft champions!
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Tez Walker coming up for the Bills. Do they move up to grab Franklin before he's gone? Don't know why we're sitting on so many day 3 picks.
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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
Meh. He might be a good player and he'll probably start from day one, and that's fine, but it's just a safety. Feels much more like a need pick than a value pick. Troy Franklin and a bunch of 2nd round caliber OL were still on the board. I don't hate the pick I'm just underwhelmed.
I hope we trade up in the 3rd round. Too many day three picks. Get a legit offensive player in the top 80.
Someone needs to lace Beanes coffee with cocaine next year. This has been the most melancholy draft I can remember. Accumulating day 3 picks to fill out the roster with special teamers. He had plenty of ammo to move around in round 2 but hasn't.
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Just now, billybob71 said:
Relax people the wizard Beane surely has a speed potion all mixed and ready for Keon
Hopefully that potion is called Troy Franklin
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Curious...Do u guys like Coleman over Worthy?
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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Don't like it. Doesn't separate. When they put up Mike Williams as a pro comp that says it all. Non-separator.
DJ said Big Slot as well. That is ultimately where I think he makes his money.
Big slot. Dont we already have that in Kincaid? Beane loves redundancy
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Bills only better be trading back if they are 100% certain no other team is going to go after the receiver they are targeting. Way to big a gamble and miss out and have to go into the season with maybe the worst WR group in the NFL.
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National Bobblehead League
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20 minutes ago, boyst said:
the long awaited thoughts...
we have a lot more options which make a lot more sense today with 33 than we did at 28. at 28 we were drafting a first round player with 2nd round talent. it sucks we gave talent to the Chiefs.
OPTION 1
We keep 33 and draft BPA, move along with the draft like normal
OPTION 2
We use a 2nd round pick to trade for a WR. This is not likely to be with Aiyuk as the internet is abuzz that the niners won't deal him and only interested in dealing Samuel. No thanks on Samuel.
OPTION 3 - my favortite
Trade 33 for a 1st round in '25. 1:1 deal would even be fine. Ideally, though, we could trade with a team for their 1st and their second to move back even further. Looking at the big board this is reasonable because the talent on board is BPA but we can squeak back. In this case it rules out getting Mitchell or McConky most likely. But, there are other WR's not far off the same tier.
OPTION 4 - most likely, sort of...
Double dip on WR.
Adonai Mitchell / Ladd McConkey - i expect we pick him at 33. But, then come back up and get McConky or wait and get Franklin, McMillan, Polk or Coleman with the other 2nd round pick.
Only option 4 seems reasonable to me. If we somehow go out of the first 2 rounds without a WR in a class that's 1)the deepest its been at the position in recent years, and 2) The absolute biggest positional need on the team in recent years, it just feels like a massive failure. Trading for another vet just makes me think getting rid of Diggs was a costly mistake
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22 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:
So Dalton Kincaid is dog food? If the Bills also pick up at least 1 WR in a deep class will Josh still have no weapons?
The worry is that we replace Gabe Davis with...Gabe Davis or worse, another slot guy. The WRs who have slipped to rd 2 did so for a reason. And then we possibly will be trading picks to replace a top 10 receiver with a more expensive vet for the ultimately the same production, all the while still paying Diggs' salary. It makes me a little uneasy that we're going into day 2 of the draft with a bottom 3 receiving unit.
The end result may work out okay but the process is a bit weird at times.
Some Examples
- Giving Justin Jefferson to Minnesota to get Diggs only to hear rumors recently of maybe the Bills trying to trade for Jefferson. We coulda had the dude on a rookie contract this whole time.
- Signing Dawson Knox to a huge contract and then drafting a TE the following season.
- Releasing Isiah McKenzie and then singing his equivalent replacement for 3 times the price.
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Just now, BringBackFergy said:
Late round picks like Stefon Diggs or Steve Johnson?
Far more unlikely to hit on a premium late round pick than it is 1st. That's like planning your financial future "knowing" you're gonna hit the lottery.
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We're gonna end up going into 2024 with Josh Allen and a bunch of JAGs. I'm pretty salty we didn't make a move for one of the top 4 WRs. As unrealistic as it may have been to land someone like Odunze, Brian Thomas certainly wasn't out of reach.
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Just now, Big Turk said:
I'm guessing there is something bigger in the works here than what's going on in the draft and the Bills are building capital to pull it off...
Perhaps a trade for a WR on a roster already?
I just don't like the idea of trading for a big name vet. We're paying several million for a top 10 receiver to not play for us next year, then we're going to trade away draft capital for another top 15 vet and pay them more than we were paying Diggs. Just doesn't add up IMO.
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Mitchell is probably the only way to salvage this nightmare of a draft at this point.
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2 hours ago, Lost said:
Beane has fumbled this draft
I stand by my statement.
But I feel really reassured knowing that Beane will have this team fully stocked with Special Teamers and no starting WR.
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Beane has fumbled this draft
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58 minutes ago, Virgil said:
With the way the cap is rising, 30 is the new 20 for receivers as 50 is the new 40 for QBs.
It’s all relative
So 25% inflation for QBs 50% inflation for receivers.
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26 minutes ago, Virgil said:
Today on WGR, they were talking about someone they trust from the Athletic saying the Bills are trying to trade up into the top 10 for Rome Odunze
I don't care what it takes. Get it done. If the Bills don't, the Chiefs are sitting there ready to pounce.
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15 hours ago, HappyDays said:
I heard Simms a few weeks ago say that Brian Thomas Jr doesn't have a "squeaky clean" character profile. Doesn't sound like anything real bad but enough to be a concern. But if any character and/or injury concern pushes him down the board the Bills won't be the team to stop his fall.
The Bills will never win a SB under this regime if they pass on BTJ at 28.
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THE ROCKPILE REVIEW - Reloading
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I woulda rather ran our RB room back with Cook/Ty Johnson and using that 4th rd pick on another WR. As it is it seems like we're putting an awful lot of stock into Coleman devolping into a #1 receiver this season and Shakir into a number 2. Id like a little more insurance than that.