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    Beane on Green Light with Chris Long

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    50 minutes ago, sven233 said:

    Sounds like Coleman was not a guy they really wanted to had to have.  I mean, that was pretty obvious from the fact that they traded down twice and then picked him.  He was in a bucket with a bunch of guys.  He talked about the tiers of WRs and said there was a clear top tier, then made it sound like there was a pretty big drop off to the end of round 1 and round 2 before getting to the 2nd tier. 

     

    To me, this means even a guy like BTJ who everyone had rated fairly highly, was in this tier 2 group and not in the tier 1 group because if he was, I believe they would have done everything they could have to move up the handful of spots it would have taken to get him.  So, guys like Worthy and Legette were probably all in the tier 2 bucket with Coleman and a few other guys and they just took the one that was there.  Frustrating for someone like me who did have several guys above Coleman who in this scenario I would have had more as a late tier 2, top of tier 3 kind of player. 

     

    But regardless, I think they are really hoping to win by having Josh play point guard this year and just get it to the open guy no matter who it is or what position it is.  It's a bold strategy that could pay off if it works, but if it doesn't, it's yet another season of not fully committing to building around Allen and just forcing him to make everyone around him better rather than getting Allen the most weapons possible to unlock even another level for Allen in his career. 

     

    In the Bills behind the scenes of the draft video they released, back at the combine after Coleman turned in his disappointing 40 time Brandon Beane said he was pleased that his time was slow so they would be able to get him at 28.   Clearly they were interested in him well before the draft.  

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    WR trade candidates, who do you want?

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    1 hour ago, Logic said:


    Yep.

    Adding a viable number one would make the whole WR corps look much better.

    Coleman looks more capable of being a quality WR2 than he does of being THE GUY. Shakir looks to be a viable slot WR and third option. Samuel would be an amazing WR4, move player, and depth at all three of the top spots. Mack Hollins WR5 and primarily special teams.

    The WR corps is actually set up quite well to be the supporting unit to a legitimate WR1 -- the Bills just don't appear to have one on the roster.

     

     

    They should trade for Stefon Diggs

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    Stadium Construction Discussion (No PSL/Seat selection posts)

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    2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

    Lots of renderings posted today of the new Jacksonville Jaguars stadium. Apparently they’re doing a major announcement on funding etc.

     

    I don’t need to tell everyone that there’s WAY MORE renderings of the Jaguars new home than the Bills have shared to date….and we’re already well into construction. 😂

     

    No renderings because they know the the stadium will already be like 15 years dated compared to other newly built/proposed venues.   But at least we're not getting MetLife stadium.

    2025 Compensatory picks

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    5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

     

    He also used this additional info to update the projected comp pick formula for next year and there are no changes. So the current projection is still that we will get a 4th and a 5th round comp pick next year.

     

    Still plenty of time for the NFL to change their formula once again and screw us even more next year.

    THE ROCKPILE REVIEW - Reloading

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    I woulda rather ran our RB room back with Cook/Ty Johnson and using that 4th rd pick on another WR.   As it is it seems like we're putting an awful lot of stock into Coleman devolping into a #1 receiver this season and Shakir into a number 2.  Id like a little more insurance than that.

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    Beane: "This team is in transition"

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    All beane had to do was take another WR mid round receiver this year and we wouldnt be having this conversation.   For how long guys like Troy Franklin were sitting out there, Its like they deliberately made this a reset year when they didnt have to.   

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    Beane: "This team is in transition"

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    30 minutes ago, Process said:

    I think Beane was very careful not to trade picks from next year. It seems like they are planning on next off season being when they go for it and make some bigger moves. 

     

    It's disappointing, but I still think it's a team that can compete for a Superbowl this year. 

     

    Just feels like a ton of missed opportunities this draft with how many receivers we looked right past.   What if Coleman flops and next years WR class is kinda awful like 2023s?

    Rd 2, Pick 60: DB Cole Bishop, Utah

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    1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

    Meh. He might be a good player and he'll probably start from day one, and that's fine, but it's just a safety. Feels much more like a need pick than a value pick. Troy Franklin and a bunch of 2nd round caliber OL were still on the board. I don't hate the pick I'm just underwhelmed.

     

    I hope we trade up in the 3rd round. Too many day three picks. Get a legit offensive player in the top 80.

     

    Someone needs to lace Beanes coffee with cocaine next year.  This has been the most melancholy draft I can remember.  Accumulating day 3 picks to fill out the roster with special teamers.  He had plenty of ammo to move around in round 2 but hasn't.  

    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

    Don't like it. Doesn't separate. When they put up Mike Williams as a pro comp that says it all. Non-separator. 

     

    DJ said Big Slot as well. That is ultimately where I think he makes his money. 

     

    Big slot.  Dont we already have that in Kincaid?   Beane loves redundancy 

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    Do You Like What Beane Did in the First Round?

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    20 minutes ago, boyst said:

    the long awaited thoughts...

     

    we have a lot more options which make a lot more sense today with 33 than we did at 28. at 28 we were drafting a first round player with 2nd round talent. it sucks we gave talent to the Chiefs.

     

    OPTION 1

    We keep 33 and draft BPA, move along with the draft like normal

     

    OPTION 2

    We use a 2nd round pick to trade for a WR. This is not likely to be with Aiyuk as the internet is abuzz that the niners won't deal him and only interested in dealing Samuel. No thanks on Samuel.

     

    OPTION 3 - my favortite

    Trade 33 for a 1st round in '25. 1:1 deal would even be fine. Ideally, though, we could trade with a team for their 1st and their second to move back even further. Looking at the big board this is reasonable because the talent on board is BPA but we can squeak back. In this case it rules out getting Mitchell or McConky most likely. But, there are other WR's not far off the same tier.

     

    OPTION 4 - most likely, sort of...

    Double dip on WR.

    Adonai Mitchell / Ladd McConkey - i expect we pick him at 33. But, then come back up and get McConky or wait and get Franklin, McMillan, Polk or Coleman with the other 2nd round pick.

     

     

     

    Only option 4 seems reasonable to me.   If we somehow go out of the first 2 rounds without a WR in a class that's 1)the deepest its been at the position in recent years, and 2) The absolute biggest positional need on the team in recent years,  it just feels like a massive failure.   Trading for another vet just makes me think getting rid of Diggs was a costly mistake

    Do You Like What Beane Did in the First Round?

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    22 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

     

    So Dalton Kincaid is dog food? If the Bills also pick up at least 1 WR in a deep class will Josh still have no weapons?

     

    The worry is that we replace Gabe Davis with...Gabe Davis or worse, another slot guy.  The WRs who have slipped to rd 2 did so for a reason.   And then we possibly will be trading picks to replace a top 10 receiver with a more expensive vet for the ultimately the same production, all the while still paying Diggs' salary.   It makes me a little uneasy that we're going into day 2 of the draft with a bottom 3 receiving unit.   

     

    The end result may work out okay but the process is a bit weird at times. 

     

    Some Examples

    - Giving Justin Jefferson to Minnesota to get Diggs only to hear rumors recently of maybe the Bills trying to trade for Jefferson.   We coulda had the dude on a rookie contract this whole time. 

    - Signing Dawson Knox to a huge contract and then drafting a TE the following season.   

    - Releasing Isiah McKenzie and then singing his equivalent replacement for 3 times the price.

     

     

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