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If you HAD to guess, do you believe that the Bills, at the last minute of the self-imposed game of chicken before the draft, decide to offer six years for 60-65 mil and that Parker/Vincent/Peters agrees to it?
I do, but it's just one man's opinion.
They may offer it but I do not think he will accept. I think Peters is gone - mentally now, and physically by the end of the first round of the draft.
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Assuming the speculation about Peters is correct (and it does make sense) then I say trade for a number 1 and go LT, TE, and LB. I woyuld love the choices discussed. Pettrigew and Matthews would be great. As for the LT spot, I would be OK with Smith, and there will be others available. Peter's had had one good season at LT. He is more hype than reality at this point, and his attitude is clearly hurting the team. Excise the cancer and pick up an extra player of you can.
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At the risk of being labeled "irrational" or "bitter" by those of you who seem to know everything, I would have to disagree with your conclusion that this has been a smart strategy. Despite all of Peters' foot stomping, he is still under contract for the previously committed amount - for two more years. He still must play for that money or be satisfied to end his career without another dime. The Bill's still own the power position here.
The fact that Peters made the pro bowl last year is inconsequential. By all rational standards his play was subpar. Reputation often carries players beyond their performance, but this does not last. In other words, if he pulls another lazy off season and extended hold out, that pro bowl streak is over. Do you honestly think other teams, evaluating potential interest in some future free agency, will over look his attitude and poor performance directly resulting from his unwillingness to play to his contract? His value in this respect deminishes as time goes on.
Finally, there is the injury situation. His career could be over the next time he takes a snap. As he is under contract to the Bills, not taking that risk does not improve his position. If he steps on the field, he risks getting nothing.
Given all that, is his agent playing this smart, or playing this for a maximum payout to his commission account, without regard to Jason's best interests? I say the latter, but of course I must be irrational and bitter. The Bills hold the cards. I encourage them to play those cards to maximum advantage for the franchise over the long term. If that means letting him sit - let him sit. If it means trading him for reasonable value (high number 1 at least) , then so be it. They should not cave in to unreasonable demands from a greedy agent and a misguided and more than slightly ignorant football player, no matter how indespensible he thinks he is. There is no one, in any job, that can not be replaced.
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The only thing actually true in that statement is "injury prone". Springs is actually 16 months younger then TO...
SSDD
34 is OLD for a cornerback. While it does not necessarily make him too old and slow to play the position at a high level, I have watched him locally since he has been in Washington and he has been injured often. When healthy, he is a shell of his former self. He is definitely past it which is why the Redskins dumped him. The difference with TO at that age is that although he does not appear to be 100% of his prime career self, he still plays at a very high level. That is unsual for either a WR or a CB at 35. I do not really know the other guy (Bodden) but Springs is mediocre at best.
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It is hard to argue the success of the diciples of Bill Belichick.
Like, Romeo Crennel? Charlie Weiss? Eric Mangini? or were you just kidding?
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He would be third string strong safety and third string punt returner on the Bills, just like before he was not resigned. What is with this fascintation? He is an average player at best who had the good fortune to be the back up safety on a team with a great front seven, an all time player beside him in Ed Reed, who had no other options when the starter went out. Get over it.
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You're 2 for 2 in this thread. Keep posting.
I know everyone is in the mood to whine, but I just do not see it here. The Bills worked him out, made an offer his agent admits was impressive, but the player decided on Miami because of a better fit of scheme to his skills. Exactly how does that point to the Bills FO being wrong here? People are upset at the Bills FO in general - I get it. The facts here simply do not justify the whining. Lets see what happens when the real game begins.
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Not sure where people are getting the $160 million number from with regard to the Rich Stadium renovation in 1998. The actual project cost was around $60 million, and it was a massive struggle to get that. The following link will take you to that informnation and an interesting review of "the Ralph".
http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/BuffaloBills/index.htm
The sad reality is that WNY can not afford to compete in the modern NFL with cities that can dump massive amounts of taxpayer funds into stadium construction. At the prices the Bill's charge, they can not afford to pay for them either. PSL's, very expensive suites and club seats, and extremely high prices for all extras are the norm.
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I'm not sure how much of the passing game failures was due to Turk's play design/calling and how much it was to do with Trent not wanting to throw the ball down-field. In the first 6 games Turk looked like an offensive genius with is aggressive play calling. I remember long sideline routes to Evans almost every game. After game 6 that all stopped and it became a pass to the running backs offense. I think in large part to Trent. If we could get a real QB who's not afraid to throw the ball down-field and is more experienced and savvy, I think Turk's IQ would go up about 25 points.
I think you are dead on here. TE was a different QB starting in game 7. Once the turnover/mistake fest started, he seemed to withdraw and certainly did not play with the same confidence, waiting for recievers to open instead of throwing with confidence based on the play design. This lack of confident play by the QB kills the offense and forced the ultimate regression to a run first and dink/dunk pass offense. In the first 6 games, plenty of downfield and over the middle medium throws; after that, TE refused to throw those routes. All the histeria over Turk boils down to poor QB play mostly. I am sure he made some rookie mistakes, but he had to adjust midstream to a suddenly underperforming and under confident QB. Better QB play equals better offense, plain and simple. The Bills are simply not built or schemed like the Ravens. While it could be argued we should have followed a more conservative attack philosposhy from the beginning, the fact is the offense was built on the assumption that TE could execute it, and he simply could not after the first 6 games. Any coordinator would have looked foolish with the inept QB play we experienced in the second half. In the first 6 games (discounting the AZ game where we had to play JP) the Turk looked like a genious.
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Decent read, but I disagree with much of it and, perhaps, most fans.
Big Picture Priority #1: General Manage…DON’T Manage Generally
I don't really buy into all this talk of we need a true General Manager. Several teams don't have a true General Manager any do quite well. What we do need, as the article points out, is a direction. If we don't have a strong GM/Parcells type, then we need a strong Head Coach. And that's where the problem is, we don't have either one. Bring in a solid HC that provides accountability and direction and have a true GM means quite a bit less.
The primary responsibility of a GM is to assemble the players and coaching staff that can win. Isn't that what Brandon and company are doing or at least attempting to do? Perhaps you dislike Brandon et als. efforts. Fine. But, then advocate is dismissal. But, to continually complain about not having a true GM ignores the reality that is today's NFL and indicates you're just unwilling to accept a changing world. How many guys are out there that are qualified to oversee the spending of $100's of millions each year, evaluate players at all positions and levels, and manage every other aspect of a mega million dollare franchise? I'd suggest not many.
Big Picture Priority #2: Out Coached? Coaches Out!
I can't and won't argue this point. The Bills are out coached. It's painfully obvious week after week. Add in the FO's management structure and it's all the more reason to have a strong HC that provides the direction and identity of the team. Jauron simply isn't that person. We need a strong personality as our HC that knows what he's doing.
Big Picture Priority #3: Tear the Roof off the Sucker
As bad as the Toronto game was, we did not lose that game because it was in Toronto or because it was in a dome. We lost that game because the Bills flat out sucked. If playing outside was such a great advantage to this team, then why isn't our home record any better? Why do we lose the vast, vast majority of our games below 32 degrees? No, playing in a dome had little to do with our ineptitude that day.
Could they, should they improve the fan experience of the game? Absolutely. Watching the game on TV it looked like a slightly over-hyped preseason game. However, lets be realistic. Has anyone watched the game in London? That game looks just about as bad. The fact is... most people outside the US are not as passionate about football as we are . So, unless they can somehow get more Buffalonians to attend, its going to be a lousy experience.
If fans are so worried about losing a cold weather game, they could simply make next year's Toronto game a Sept. game. I would make it a non-divisiona game. But I suspect, Ralph chose Miami because he was hoping that would create the most interest and most likely guarantee a sellout. It appears he was wrong.
Big Picture Priority #4: Stadium Arcane-ium
Give this idea a rest. Do people really want their taxes raised so they can build a new stadium? Jerry Jones is finding it hard to fund his new stadium. But Ralph could easily do it here? The idea with the balloons and falling goalposts making the stadium look bad is ludicrous. When you have near hurricane force winds, structures get damaged and blown over. I don't care how new they are.
Yes, it would be nice to have a new stadium. But, given the economy and reality of the current tax base, it's just wishful thinking.
Big Picture Priority #5: Take our Ownership…Please
This is perhaps one of my biggest pet peeves. Is the entire Bills fanbase becoming a group of 16 year old girls screaming they want everything for them at their sweet 16 party? Ralph has defied all business sense and kept this franchise in Buffalo for nearly 50 years. He's guaranteed as long as he's alive the Bills will remain in Buffalo. Yet, like spoiled little girls, we throw a tantrum and scream we want more, more, moooore.
If anyone wants to guarantee the Bills stay here for 50 more years, I suggest they go into business, make a billion dollars and go buy the team. And then keep the team here despite the more lucrative deals you could get elsewhere. Because that's the only way this team is guaranteed to stay in Buffalo.
All I can say is be careful what you wish for. One day the Bills will have a new owner, and there's absolutely no guarantee that owner remains as loyal to Buffalo as Ralph. Whether Ralph cherry picks the owner or the team is sold on Ebay, there's no guarantee.
Not to mention all this talk of a new owner suddenly spending millions on coaches, players, a new stadium, etc. If someone has that kind of money , they're going to want a return on their investment - ala Jerry Jones. Can Buffalo sell the kind of luxury boxes and seat licenses that Dallas or Washington does? I doubt it. So, what would be the new owner's logical choice - yep, move the team. So, just keep wishing for a new owner.
IMO, the big picture is simple: put a winning product on the field. If the Bills became a perennial winning team, playoff bound each year most of these problems go away. Driving to Toronto is less a hassle. The stadium doesn't look nearly as beat down. The management structure or titles given to people become irrelevant. All becomes right in the world.
So how do you get a winning product on the field? That's the biggest question and the one most teams struggle with every year. I would suggest the Bills have enough talent, but what they really need is that strong leader to give them direction, an identity. In other words, a real HC.
Great Post! Your reply on item #5 is particualrly right on. There is only one reason the Bills still exist in Buffalo and that is Ralph Wilson's committment to keeping the team there, despite the fact he could have made much more money elsewhere, or sold the team for hundreds of milllions at any point. Buffalo can simply not play the same game as other communities who have supported $300 to $500 million investments in new stadiums and that contain corporate sponsors and wealthy individuals in suffcient quantity to support high prices. That is the future of the NFL and Buffalo does not belong. When the old man dies, its all over, in all probability. I am intent on enjoying the team while I can, despite the failings. These anti-Ralph Wison whines I see on this board constantly annoy me to no end.
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When the losing streak started Turk was getting criticized for being too creative. Now he is not creative enough. The problem on offense has been QB play - plain and simple. TE was on fire early in the season - executing crisply, with confidence, and the team had confidence in him. Then the turnover festival started with him. TE no longer plays with confidence or executes crisply. That, combined with the need to play JP who has never shown the ability to make good decisions or execute consistently, and you get bland offensive game plans and simple approaches, the hope being "at least lets limit the turnovers". Not saying I like it, but you need a QB performing well to score points in this league consistently.
If TE plays better, this offense will look very different - certainly good enough to have won the last two games and the Cleveland game as well. He and JP, however, have combined to suck the life out of any offensive game plan.
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LOL....LOL...LOL...LOL!!!
This team is one of the worst teams in the league right now
Agreed. There is no way Buffalo is a playoff team. Look at what Indy and Baltimore did yesterday. The Ravens crushed an inferior opponent on the road. Indy pulled out a win on a very poor performance by their all star quaterback. These are playoff teams. The Bills could not generate a win over a supposedly inferior opponent at home, now twice in a row. They will be lucky to finish 8 and 8. 6 and 10 is not unlikley.
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A few points to the discussion:
- I was always a JP supporter, however, yesterday's performance by JP combbined with TE's outstanding play YTD should put this silly debate to bed once and for all. JP was certainly not the sole reason we lost, but he was terrible. Three turnovers, holding on to the ball way to long, poor judgement - we got the whole package. I am really disappointed that he could not play in a relief role and get the job done.
- This game was about turnovers. The Bills had 4 turnovers leading to 24 points. Whe you put your defense on the field for 2/3 of the game because you can not hang on to the ball, this is what happens. Everything else is secondary. We have no idea what would have transpoired absent the turnovers, but it certainly would have been a closer game.
- The Bills are not as good as people were making them out to be before yesterday, and not as bad as yesterday's game would indicate. This was an important learning experience. How they react as a team, and as a coaching staff, over the next 4 games will detrmine their fate, not yesterday's subpar performance.
- Like every team, the Bills have some issues. They also have some great components and great potential to be very good for a long time. Lets not over react to one bad day.
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The North Star is great, but no food. Its bring your own. Great hangout though. I watched the Sabres get clubed by the Senators there 2 seasons ago.
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Where's Mickey?
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Mickey, your posts are becoming increasingly apoplectic; in short, you've 'lost it'. No one cares about Peters any more - season's about to start without him. Deal with it.
GO BILLSSS!!!!
19 and 0 baby!!!!!
Could not agree more. Peters is not on the team at this point. Get ready to enjoy some Bills football and accept the fact that neither you nor anyone else on this board has the slightest idea what is really being said or thought of by the Bills, and you can not control it in any case. I wish he were here, but oh well, he is not.
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you're funny
What a tool you are. Further response not warranted.
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just expect not to make the playoffs with peters out. remiinds me of to many times in the past when wilson went cheap. like when he wouldn't sign kelly.
And what time would that have been? Enlighten me. Kelly refused to negotiate a contract with Buffalo because he did not want to play there. It was not about money, it was about his ego, a bigger stage, and the Bills reputation for being losers. When the USFL folded, The Bills made Kelly the highest paid player in the league at the time.
As for the Peters situation, this is not about "Ralph being cheap". It is about a player throwing a tantrum and the Bills refusing to give in, as they should not, because it will impact the management of this team and their ability to retain a solid core for years to come.
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That is one way it could go. Another is that he sits for the season or until the team figures he is worth more to them in a trade than sitting home accumulating fines.
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There is zero probability he sits for the season or the Bills trade him. That is just hysteria. I am disappointed as anyone that this situation is occurring, but Peters has no leverage and will show up. The alternative is career suicide and bankruptcy. Unfortunately, because he has chosen this route, the team will not be as good as they could have been, even if he shows up now. For that he should be rewarded? I do not think so, but others clearly do.
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Good one, Senator. All the hysteria will be over soon. My prediction - Peters will report before Game 1 and play for his existing sh***y contract, because it is better than not getting paid at all. He will suck through the first 4 games at least being out of shape and unfamiliar with the new offense. He may or may not get back to pro bowl level, and he may or may not make it through the season unhurt (my guess is not), yet his reputation will keep him among the "elite tackles" in the game, and we will be right back here next year.
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Speaking very gererally, once a Bullalo Bill hits free agency, he is gone (if he is any good). A notable exception was Ruben Brown, who failed to get the offers he expected. Ostroski too, but he was terrible.
The free agent arguement is really not applicable here. Peters owes the Bills three more years. Even supposing he refused to negotiate on the Bills timetable in those three years, they can still lock him in for at least another year with a franchise tag. Four years is an eternity. Peters has no leverage and needs to play for his contract this year. The Bills have shown a willingness to renegotiate in term extensions and will I am sure in this case when they think the timing is right. If so, Peters will sign, because waiting out his existing contract or refusing to play under are not realistic options.
It would be a horrible precedent to let any player dictate the timing of renegotiation by throwing a temper tantrum. They have to think of the big picture here.
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Unless you live in Pittsburgh, the local FSN channel will be blacked out. Outside of upstate NY (Bflo, Roch, Syr), Toronto, and Pittsburgh the only option is the NFLN replay currently listed 12:00 Mid on Saturday the 16th, or later that morning at 9:00 am.
Correction - 9:00 am and 6:00 pm on Saturday the 16th.
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Bill--my experience is that out of area games are blacked out. I hope that isn't the case on Thursday, but unless it is a national game I think we're out of luck. NFL Network is replaying it twice, neither time 'convenient'.
Unless you live in Pittsburgh, the local FSN channel will be blacked out. Outside of upstate NY (Bflo, Roch, Syr), Toronto, and Pittsburgh the only option is the NFLN replay currently listed 12:00 Mid on Saturday the 16th, or later that morning at 9:00 am.
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It is certainly not time to panic over the "offensive" display of offense last night, but it does point to a key factor largely ignored in the great Jason Peters debate thus far: It is the play of the QB that will determine the fate of the Bills this year, not any single lineman's presence in the game, even Peters. The Bills will go as far as Edwards will take them. Can he exhibit toughness and leadership? Can he make good decisions under pressure? Can he deliver under less than ideal conditions? These are big questions about him given last year's at times promising, but in the end, disappointing finish to his season. he certainly did not answer them positively last night.
Yes its only two series in the first game so, as i said, not time to panic, but he looked awful. Indecisive, too quick to check down, and very locked in on primary routes. Not much evidence last night, but what was there was not encouraging. I am not trying to revive the Losman vs Edwards debate (plenty of that going on this morning already) but just pointing out that the absence of Peters was not the problem. The Bills will rise of fall on the play and leadership of the QB, not on whether their left tackle is a pro bowler or merely adequate.
Oh how we used to produce in the late rounds...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Jay Remeirsma came in a trade from Pittsburgh if my memory serves. (and it may not).