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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Link, please? And maybe quote a para or 2 for those without subscriptions?
Don’t know how to copy a link from the Athletic App. below is the first part of the article about D. Williams
Now that the Bills have moved on from Feliciano, the biggest question mark remaining is starting right guard Daryl Williams. The Bills could save a lot of cap space by releasing him — $6.325 million to be exact, before factoring in the contract that would replace his deal in the top 51. Williams is the most fascinating decision remaining because if they cut him, it could signal the Bills’ commitment to a different type of offensive lineman. All of their potential starters for 2022 and a key reserve they drafted last year mostly have one thing in common. They’re superior athletes to most at their position. The exception is Williams. An excellent metric to use is Relative Athletic Score, which takes the size, speed and agility profile and compares it to historical data at the position to give an accurate depiction of the type of athlete a team would be getting. It’s out of 10, and Williams sticks out like a sore thumb.
After the above, he lists the RAS of some of our linemen and D. Williams is a 3.31 the lowest behind Dawkins at 7.90 the rest are all 8’s or 9’s, and one 10 (Brown). -
On 3/9/2022 at 12:29 PM, BillsFan2313 said:
Yeah, I am sure he would laugh..
“They were talking about the amputation of toes,” said Sanders. “Then they were talking about the amputation of my leg from the knee down. Then, they were trying to ensure I had life.”
However, he survived, didn’t lose his leg or his life and just loss two toes. Its not great, but also not worth getting upset over others seeing humor in something such as this.
Have you never laughed at yourself for something that went wrong? Negativity or positivity, which would you prefer, which would others prefer? Being able to find humor in things generally equates to someone who is more positive in life.
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On 3/8/2022 at 5:34 PM, NoName said:
The guy has to get toes amputated and somehow people use that as an opportunity to make fun of the guy. I'm hoping this thread gets closed.
It is possible to sympathize and still have fun with stuff like this. It’s not like it had to be one or the other. Too many these days want to limit communication to a narrow set of guidelines and define what is “right” in regards to topics.
Live and let live. No one’s hurting Deon here making a little joke about his loss of toes. Consider how many times people make fun of themselves over things that don’t go well in life. Being able to laugh at life, is a good thing.
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1 hour ago, Kangaxx said:
Give me a guard in the first who can play right away. I really don't want someone who is injured.
IF, there is a guard there worth taking. We really have to see how the board falls, there are several good options at multiple positions, just depends on who it is, but we can’t be locked into a specific position. A guard in the first has to be more than a day 1 starter, they need to be someone who could potential play center down the road.
There are just so many good wr’s this draft, that I’d prefer to stay away from Williams. Hopefully he is selected before us, helping to push one more player down the board.
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10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
I just listened to a PFF podcast from a couple days ago about the draft as a whole with guests Jon Ledyard and Dane Brugler. Consensus seems to be that the class is incredibly deep with what will ultimately be really good number 2 NFL WRs and there are no truly alpha number 1s like in previous years.
This bodes well for Buffalo. I never know much about college players until the season ends and I start getting interested in the draft, but I voted Jameson Williams. Part of me voting for him is the fact that now that we've given Beasley permission to seek a trade I believe we'll try to ink li'l dirty to a multi-year deal to take Cole's place more permanently. And that might be more hope than anything on my part.
Regardless, if we do that I think this team has 4 WR slots on the roster established (Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, & Stevenson who I think becomes our primary returner to take the load off our now permanent slot) and we'll probably bring in a middle of the road vet FA to compete with the younger guys on our roster like Hodgins for a 5th spot. Sanders said if he comes back to play it will be with Josh Allen so we can't rule him out for the 5th spot, either. Plus we can't rule out bringing Kumerow back for the important added Special Team's value.
All of that could set up a virtual redshirt year for a guy who might've been the #1 WR in this class if not for his injury.
If Davis plays well this season hopefully we can get him signed to a long term deal and then Buffalo is set up with a WR corps of Diggs, Davis, Williams and McKenzie through the 2025 season.
That's a lot of projecting and a lot of hope, but I think that's the ideal plan. However, 2 big questions:
1) Do we actually resign McKenzie? Maybe more importantly, does his love for Josh Allen (clearly there) outweigh his friction with Sean McDermott (clearly there)?
2) Are we targeting our CB2 in FA or the draft?
I do believe round 1 is either CB or WR.
If McKenzie isn't back... gonna need a fast and versatile slot guy who can play this season... might have to wait til round 2 to draft him. Who is that? Anyone?
I think Wan’Dale Robinson could be a good slot pickup in the 2nd. Only thing is, it would be hard relying on a rookie to play slot, so I’d think brining back Sanders would be a good pairing. He can play both inside and outside and his experience should help him when attacking more zone based defenses.
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13 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:
I'll preface this with, I am more defensive minded and I don't think averaging 36+ points a game is realistic for an offense.
Anything is possible. But if they keep William's (which I think they will) I believe he will be much better at RG this year now that Brown has a year under his belt as well as a full offseason. Then add in a new OLine coach (awesome decision), I just don't see a change coming to the starters. Then you have Doyle (ST), Ford (don't laugh, I still have hope a new coach brings him around), I just don't see a need for a higher draft pick. Again, if Morse hangs it up, all bets are off. But then you have a choice of Mongo or Bates that can start at center if needed. So I kind of still stick with Mongo would be the one for a possible upgrade and he is not one of our starters.
As to the WR, No, I don't think nor want a 1st rnd WR. Too deep of a class in my opinion for a 1st rnd pick. Josh will help elevate any WR. Plus we are not in need of a #1. We need a 2,3 maybe even a 4th WR. Diggs, Davis are 1&2 and in order to go BPA in the draft, they will have someone already in place for a 3 or 4.
FA will determine a LOT, so right now it's all best guess.
But look at our FA's next year and I could see them using that as part of the thought process for some late picks this year. Gives them the ability to rotate in a little this year for experience and evaluation. Before next FA and Draft. I just think Our staff are planners and don't really look at today only in the draft.
Yeah I agree with your take on the O-line, I see it the same way. Unless Morse retires, it will most likely be the same starting 5. I’m thinking more a mid to later round pick at guard who can be depth and possible starter down the road (maybe a second year starter after we move on from Williams).
I wouldn’t be surprised is the Bills bring back Sanders on a 1 year deal. It looks like we are either trading or cutting Bease and Sander would make sense as a guy who can play both inside and outside. This would give the Bills more flexibility for the draft.
Being more of a defensive person, what position are you hoping for in the first? Obviously it depends on FA and how the draft falls, but I’m starting to lean CB, it just feels like there will be a few good options at that position at 25.
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On 3/2/2022 at 5:52 PM, Manther said:
They actually don't throw the ball much. I think Kyler Murray and their offense handcuffs their WRs. Add Deandre Hopkins and not many balls to go around.
I would give a 5th for him. 6th is probably and possibly enough. He is better than we would get in the 6th round.
This draft is VERY deep, and Beane has been pretty successful with late round picks. There is NO WAY anyone gives up more than a 6th for him. If they do, it’s via a pick swap. Last year he didn’t do anything and D-Hop was out for a large chunk of the season, that alone is very telling. Add to it all that he hasn’t done much on special teams. We can’t just expect someone like him to come in and take other the slot role, so we’d still have to pick someone up who we atleast could count on in the slot.
I just don’t understand why he had such a poor year last year when AZ needed someone to step up at WR.
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This is another guy who would be an amazing grab outside of the first. After he ran his 40 in the 4.4’s there is a chance he won’t even be there for our second round pick. I also love the fact that he decided to play in the National Championship risking re-injury. -
4 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:
The problem with you position is that WR’s rarely make a big contribution year #1. The Bills also have very strong need for another QB and an OG. They could draft two WR’s though I doubt they will.
I doubt the Bills draft a QB to be a backup. That’s more likely to a vet. It doesn’t make sense taking a young later round QB to be our backup. We need a backup who can atleast have a chance to go .500 if Allen is out.
As far as guard, I do think we draft one this draft. It will depend how things fall/FA where they take one.
In regards to WR’s not contributing much year 1, although true, that narrative seems to be shifting as the league becomes more pass first, especially when we have a QB like Allen who won’t be a hinderance to production for a WR. This is a fantastic draft to pick up 2 WR’s. My guess would be the higher pick would be a slot guy, and the later pick more of an outside guy. If Sanders were to come back this year, he would be an excellent bridge being able to play both outside and inside while the young guys learn and get worked in on things they can do early. I mean, look at Davis as a 4th round rookie, he looked very good.
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3 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:
True and and no disrespect by jumping in on the conversation, but in my opinion, they'll re-sign Bates and a FA qb. I doubt they would put a rookie next to Brown on the right side, so I think they already have the starting 5 on OL set (unless Morse calls it a day of course). If anything, they'll look to upgrade Mongo later in the draft. So 2 WR's would not surprise me in this draft.
I agree with what your saying, but in the event a rookie guard won a starting spot, I think they would play him next to Brown, but I think they look at a guard who can compete for a staring spot this year, with more of an eye towards the future.
As far as WR, completely agree. I think they take two this draft. The talent at WR this draft is just amazing, including good speed all over the draft at WR. With that said, I don’t think we take WR in round 1. You never know, especially before FA, but it just seems the value and BPA may end up being another position.
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I picked Wan’Dale Robinson because I don’t think we go WR with our first pick, so we are looking at second round or later. Wan’Dale might be around for our second round pick. I also think we will grab two WR’s this draft, and there are many great options all over this draft. But I think they look for a slot WR with the higher pick of the two.
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8 hours ago, NewEra said:
You can’t just look at stats. And those stats are pretty meh for a WR making 20M per year……1000 yards and 6.5 TDs.
Look at cap situation of the team that signed him. They signed him before Dak, which cost the cowboys a ton of money. Signing zeke may have been worse.
the cowboys realize what a mistake it was….hence the cut and then taking on 6M In dead cap just to get rid of him
I do think the Zeke signing was worse. They can’t even get out from him right now, and even though Coopers contract isn’t great, Zeke’s is a big reason they have to trade/cut cooper.
It will be interesting to see how Beane progresses with signing our drafted players
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3 hours ago, Southern Bills Fan said:
I’m surprised at all the people who want him gone. He made some incredible catches and moves for first downs to keep the chains moving in some important spots.
I know! I can’t remember the number, but some poster shared it a few weeks back. Beasley had somewhere around 30+ first down receptions. The guy is a chain mover and there’s value in that.
It will be interesting to see what happens, but knowing Beane, he will get some value out of a trade.
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25 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
Every time I bring it up people want to cry but this defense needs to be better. I bet there is friction because of the way Fraizer calls the defense. We had wonderful stats this season…I fully understand that. We also played against a lot of really bad Offenses. It seems like every good QB carves us. It also seems like when we truly need a big stop, we rarely get it. Physical teams push us around and we can’t stop the run. We have elite talent in the backend of this defense. I think we could be an all time defense with the right DC. I bet McDermott feels like the stats don’t tell the tale here and that they are capable of being better. Probably causes friction
But it wasn’t just our schedule, the Bills were the number 1 defense by DVOA which takes into account how that team (the ones on our schedule) did against ALL of their other games. Which means, we did better against the bad teams than others.
I’m not saying the Bills defense can’t get better, but just trying to put the narrative that we played a soft schedule in perspective. Soft though it may be, we did better than others who played the same soft teams.-
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7 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:
I probably should have clarified- I was thinking in that scenario if we traded back up and it cost us some of the lower round picks. I wouldn’t mind if we did that if we think he’s the guy. I’d rather pass on fliers in the 6th like Wildgoose and Hamlin and use those picks (plus maybe a swap of 5ths) tomove back up late in the 4th and get a day 1 starter
This is draft is one of the deepest drafts in years, whereas last years draft was one of the least deep drafts in years. Even then, Hamlin didn’t look bad as a rookie.
So many completely undervalue late round picks. Plenty of starters and/or good players come from the later rounds, and in deep draft like this one, there should be more than in most years.
As other posters have pointed out, punters across the board aren’t much different from the worst to the best in the NFL, and rotational/special teams players will have many more snaps then the punter over the course of a season.
I trust Beane whatever he does, but I’d be absolutely stunned if he took a punter in the 4th, much less trading up into the 3rd. That’s just insane, especially when we need contributors on rookie deals with Josh’s contract ballooning next season.
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14 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:
Normally I would agree, but for an immediate impact player I would absolutely do it. Day 1 starter. I’d rather have him than a potential PS player waiting to make a start 3/4 of the way into the seasonMatt Milano and Taron Johnson are both 4th/5th round picks and they are legitimate starters. Sure they both had to develop for a time, but we NEED to draft starters/future starters who will be on rookie contracts with Josh’s higher pay coming next season.
Can we use an upgrade at punter? Sure, but punter wasn’t the reason we lost to KC, and most everyone feels if 13 seconds went different we may have won it all.
I’m sure we can get an upgrade at punter either in FA or draft, even if it isn’t Arazia. To answer your question, 5th at the absolute earliest, but I’d prefer the 6th round.
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16 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:
In my admittedly homerist opinion, it isn't just the talent, and coaching that has made the Bills a great team that is a favorite for the SB next season-- it's the culture that Beane, and McD have created. Character, and culture matter, especially for this Bills team. It's the way it's been built. I believe this, and I'm not sure that Gronkowsky fits the Bills' culture.
But if the Bills pick him up, it’s a good sign he will fit the culture.
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10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Since the rule change in 2010 for regular season, 2012 for playoffs, there have been 163 OT games. Coin toss winner winner won 52.8% of those games.
Playoffs are a sample size of 11 games over 10 seasons, and only 7 teams that won the toss scored a TD on their first possession. So 63.6% (not 90%) of those games involved only 1 team having a chance to score).
Even so, the small sample size gives a poor reflection of the actual advantage for the coin toss (just over 50:50 for the toss winner).
The win percentage I said should have been 80%, I didn’t look it up for reference. So the coin toss winner is 10-2 in OT since the 2010 change with 7 of the 10 wins coming from first possession (touchdowns).
I didn’t realize the 10-2 was just winning and not walk off touchdowns. Either way, 10-2 still isn’t the isn’t great odds, and it shows the current format could be improved, even with a smaller sample size in the playoffs.
9 hours ago, DRutka said:I think they should do a shoot-out type formula.
- Each team gets 3 plays from the 10 yard line.
- You could score 3 times. 1 point for each time you make it in the end zone.
If tied after each team gets 3 attempts, it goes to sudden death with the same formula.
- Team A goes, then team B.
- If tied still, keep going until at the end of a round, there is a winner.
This will do the following:
- Each team will always get the same amount of tries.
- No more whining about fare possessions.
- Puts the focus on both offense and defense
- Put the game in he hands of the star players. (Sorry, special team guys, your day is done. If your best player is a returner or kicker, get better players.)
This should be done for regular season AND playoffs.
- NO MORE TIES!!!
I think ties are fine for the regular season. It means less stat padding and less chance for injury. In the playoffs a team HAS to win, so there needs to be a format gives them both a chance and both sides of the team a chance to be in the field.
With that said, there would be a certain entertainment value to a shootout style format and I’m sure I’d learn to enjoy it. However, I think something more akin to the other 4 quarters of play would be more realistic, and better reflect the game.
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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:
If the opposing D can hold the flip winner to a FG, they will get the ball and a chance to tie or win on their possession.
We all know that, the point is, 90% of the time in the playoffs the team who wins the coin toss goes down and scores a TD. So the current format isn’t working.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
OK. Team B kicks a game tying FG with 20 seconds left. Team B kicks off for a touch back. Team A would start the possession on their own 25 and begin their drive. Can't get too conservative because the drive is continued into OT. You don't want to waste downs. It'll be just like the end of the 1st or 3rd but now OT rules kick in.
We always play OT like it's a new game but it's not. So much happened to get to this point but now none of it matters. The whole process of stopping the game and doing a coin flip just takes away from an exciting finish to regulation.
Continue where from where the fourth quarter ends isn’t bad, but not if a TD wins the game. In some ways, I suppose it’s better to know what’s going to happen rather than relying on a random coin toss. Team B could go for the win, instead of a FG. Risky sure, but you know team A gets the ball to start OT
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4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Because it can go on for an hour. Have you seen some of these college OT's. Terrible idea considering the defense's are already exhausted. The rules committee will say if the team with the first possession scores a td, the other team will be given an opportunity to match. If they do match, then the game Immediately becomes sudden death. Probably takes less than 10 minutes.
This would be good enough. The advantage of using 4th downs can be nullified due to team A having the chance to win on their first possession of sudden death.
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19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Play it exactly how they would at the end of the 1st or 3rd quarter. They get the ball to start OT wherever they were at the end of the 4th. Same down and distance. Same timeouts. If a score happens at the end of regulation then it's a kickoff to start OT.
In your scenario Team A is around midfield I'm guessing driving and there's like 20 seconds left. Remember OT rules are you only win on the 1st possession with a TD. A Team A FG on this drive in OT would give the ball to Team B with a chance to win sudden death with a TD.
Knowing that, as a fan what would you suggest your team do? I would want my team to go for the win in regulation.
I think your idea with a slight modification would be my preferred OT.
That modification being, if first team in OT scores a TD, they have to go for the XP. The second team, assuming they score the TD, has to go for 2. This way the second team having the advantage of using 4th down is slightly nullified in having to go for 2. Also, if the game goes to sudden death, the first team having the ball in OT has the advantage.
Now assuming the first team missed the XP, the second team can then try for an XP instead of going for 2.
24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:Play it exactly how they would at the end of the 1st or 3rd quarter. They get the ball to start OT wherever they were at the end of the 4th. Same down and distance. Same timeouts. If a score happens at the end of regulation then it's a kickoff to start OT.
In your scenario Team A is around midfield I'm guessing driving and there's like 20 seconds left. Remember OT rules are you only win on the 1st possession with a TD. A Team A FG on this drive in OT would give the ball to Team B with a chance to win sudden death with a TD.
Knowing that, as a fan what would you suggest your team do? I would want my team to go for the win in regulation.
Consider this though. Team A gets the ball with very little time, say less than 20 seconds and the game is tied. They wouldn’t need to be aggressive, they could just move the ball casually knowing they will get the ball in OT. This wouldn’t be so bad, unless that team can win with a TD in OT.
However, I do like your idea of removing the coin flip. Even if OT was just a whole period that was played out.
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23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
well, that was lessened not long ago with a change in the OT rule. Recently, a team won on the first possession with a FG, Now it has to be a TD or the other team gets a possession to tie or win.
They don't need to change it again. The Defense is expected to play hard in OT as well as the Offense.
This is a non-issue.
Since this change (in post season) the team who has won the toss has won 90% of the games. This is the main issue with the drive for change. A coin toss is seemingly deciding the outcomes of games between very good teams.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
First scenario is perfect. That's exactly how it should be. Like I said, team B already knows who gets possession in OT. So if they score a TD they could go for 2 to win in regulation instead of play defense in OT and hope to get the ball back.
Second scenario would take game management by the coach. Remember at the end of regulation you still win the game if you make the long FG. In OT a made FG gives the ball to the opponent for their possession. Team A would still have to score a TD on their 1st possession in OT to win on that possession.
I like your idea IF OT is timed and not as it currently is. Because this would remove the coin toss factor in OT.
1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said:The OT rule as per me. Team A scores a TD on first OT possession and must kick their XP. Team B gets the ball and must score a TD and if so they must go for 2 pt conversion assuming Team A made their kick. If Team A missed their XP then Team B has the option to kick for the win. Would the team winning the coin toss elect to play defense first? I think so because the second team to possess the ball has the advantage of knowing what they need and the availability of 4th downs to sustain their drive. All other scoring rules stay the same. If there is a weather effect on the game that favors one direction over the other, then there is an additional bonus to playing defense first.
In the case of matching FGs by each team, next score wins the game. Team A gets the advantage of winning the game on their 2nd possession with a score of any kind. B does not get a second chance. Now what does the winner of the coin toss do? I still think they would play defense and choose the EZ they defend.
This is not a bad idea at all. Each team has an advantage in some way, but also a disadvantage.
Levi Wallace gone to the Steelers on 2-year deal
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A sign we are looking at CB early in the draft? That price does seem reasonable
They have be wanting to go a different direction at cb 2 as far as skill set. I don’t see why else they wouldn’t pay that price (if he was asking for the same from us). I’m sure cb will also be an earlier pick in the draft, first 3 rounds would be my guess.