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Haven't done one in a while....
In this one, I was more patient with linebacker....
12 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:1. WR Jalin Hyatt
2. LB Jack Campbell
3. WR Marvin Mims
4. TE Zach Kuntz
yes.
I think that the WR would be overcrowded with two picks but I like the players you picked.
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On 4/5/2023 at 3:29 PM, Virgil said:
Hi Everyone, it's that time of year again.
Welcome to the Stadium Wall Mock Draft 1.0 with full trades. This mock will consist of 3 rounds. For those new to the party, TSW members volunteer to operate a team as the GM, with full authority to make trades and player selections. Please read the below rules and formatting.
If you are interested in being a GM, please:
-Have at least 6 months tenure on this forum
-Have at least 200 posts
-Reply to this thread with the 3 teams, ranked in order of which you are willing to operate (Failure to list 3 could cause someone to take your spot)
Rules:
-Mock Draft 1.0 will have trades (2.0 will have no trades)
-All trades must be approved by me. Create a DM with me, yourself, and the team you are trading with.
-All trades must follow the draft value chart HERE
-Current NFL Players can be traded, but only players known to be on the trade block (Hopkins, Lamar, etc)
--Anyone who takes the Jets or Packers are expected to make a trade for Rodgers. I've never mandated something like this before, but we all know it's going to happen)
-The Draft will start within at the start of business day after we have all of our owners
-Each owner has 4 hours to make their selection. (Draft hours are 8a-10p est. If your 4 hours goes beyond that time, you have one hour to make your selection starting at 8a the next day)
-Each selection must have an explanation, discussing the thought process behind the pick.
-The Buffalo Bills selection will be made by a Poll from all site members.
-There will be 3 rounds for 1.0
-If your team has multiple first round picks, you are responsible for all of the picks (if your team has back to back picks, you only get 4 hours for both picks)
Format:With the 25th selection, the Buffalo Bill select Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
Reason: Because he wake up every day and chooses violence
The Ravens @Virgil is on the clock
Draft Order
Round 1
1 - Panthers (3000) - Kirby Jackson - CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio St
2 - Texans (2600) - wppete - Bryce Young, QB, Alabama
3 - Cardinals (2200) - Doc Brown
4 - Colts (1800) - CNYfan
5 - Seahawks (1700) - section122
6 - Lions (1600) - mannc
7 - Raiders (1500) - HappyDays
8 - Falcons(1400) - RyanC883
9 - Bears (1350) - MrEpsYtown
10 - Eagles (1300) - Big Blitz
11 - Titans (1250) - Alphadawg7
12 - Texans (1200) - wppete
13 - Jets (1150) - NewEra
14 - Patriots (1100) - inaugural balls
15 - Packers (1050) - bkep32
16 - Commanders (1000) - Alphadawg7
17 - Steelers (950) - GunnerBill
18 - Lions (900) - mannc
19 - Bucs (875) - Virgil
20 - Seahawks (850) - section122
22 - Ravens (780) - NeverOutNick
23 - Vikings (760) - BigdaddyinOrlando
24 - Jaguars (740) - LEBills
25 - Giants (720) - Chaos
26 - Cowboys (700) - Might Rather
27 - Bills (680) - TSW Poll
28 - Bengals (660) - aristocrat
29 - Saints (640) - frostbitmic
30 - Eagles (620) - Big Blitz
31 - Chiefs (600) - Zerovoltz
Round 2
32 - Steelers (590) - GunnerBill
33 - Texans (580) - wppete
34 - Cardinals (560) - Doc Brown
35 - Colts (550) - CNYfan
36 - Rams (540) - NewEra
37 - Seahawks (530) - section122
38 - Raiders (520) - HappyDays
39 - Panthers (510) - Kirby Jackson
40 - Saints (500) - frostbitmic
41 - Titans (490) - Alphadawg7
42 - Jets (480) - NewEra
43 - Jets (470) *Trade* Packers - bkep32 -
44 - Falcons (460) - RyanC883
45 - Packers (450) - bkep32
46 - Patriots (440) - inaugural balls
47 - Commanders (430) - Alphadawg7
48 - Lions (420) - mannc
49 - Steelers (410) - GunnerBill
50 - Bucs (400) - Virgil
51 - Dolphins (390) - TBBills Fan
52 - Seahawks (380) - section122
53 - Bears (370) - MrEpsYtown
54 - Chargers (360) - CNYfan
55 - Lions (350) - mannc
56 - Jaguars (340) - LEBills
57 - Giants (330) - Chaos
58 - Cowboys (320) - Might Rather
59 - Bills (310) - TSW Poll
60 - Bengals (300) - aristocrat
61 - Bears (290) - MrEpsYtown
62 - Eagles (284) - Big Blitz
63 - Chiefs (276) - Zerovoltz
Round 3
64 - Bears (270) - MrEpsYtown
65 - Texans (265) - wppete
66 - Cardinals (260) - Doc Brown
67 - Broncos (255) - Motorin'
68 - Broncos (250) - Motorin'
69 - Rams (245) - NewEra
70 - Raiders (240) - HappyDays
71 - Saints (235) - frostbitmic
72 - Titans (230) - Alphadawg7
73 - Texans (225) - wppete
74 - Browns (220) - BarelyNY
75 - Falcons (215) - RyanC883
76 - Patriots (210) - inaugural balls
77 - Rams (205) - NewEra
78 - Packers (200) - bkep32
79 - Colts (195) - CNYfan
80 - Steelers (190) - GunnerBill
81 - Lions (185) - mannc
82 - Bucs (180) - Virgil
83 - Seahawks (175) - section122
84 - Dolphins (170) - TBBills Fan
85 - Chargers (165) - CNYfan
86 - Ravens (160) - NeverOutNick
87 - Vikings (155) - BigdaddyinOrlando
88 - Jaguars (150) - LEBills
89 - Giants (145) - Chaos
90 - Cowboys (140) - Might Rather
91 - Bills (136) - TSW Poll
92 - Bengals (132) - aristocrat
93 - Panthers (128) - Kirby Jackson
94 - Eagles (124) - Big Blitz
95 - Chiefs (120) - Zerovoltz
96 - Cardinals (116) - Doc Brown
97 - Commanders (112) - Alphadawg7
98 - Browns (108) - BarelyNY
99 - 49ers (104) - Sherlock Holmes
100 - Raiders (100) - HappyDays
101 - 49ers (96) - Sherlock Holmes
102 - 49ers (92) *Trade* - Saints - frostbitmic -
Trades
Packers Trade Aaron Rodgers to Jets for Corey Davis and Pick #43
49ers Trade Aiyuk and pick #102 to Saints for Taysum Hill
This is awesome. Would have loved to participate, but all slots taken so quickly.
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The ROIDS must be damaging his kidneys.....
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Bust predictions are fun....
1. QB Will Levis (not even close to first round talent)
2. DT Kalijah Cancey (too small)
3. DT Bryan Breese (too tall and lanky for DT)
4. RT Dawand Jones (will be too slow at his size. Will be nicknamed the human turnstile)
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1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said:
I've read here many times by knowledgeable posters that Torrence is not a fit for our O-line scheme. So what's happening?
1) The fans' scouting is off.2) The Bills pros' scouting is off.
3) The Bills know he's not a natural fit but want to take him and make him work in our scheme all the same (they have a history, like with AJ and Basham of trying to change early-round picks).
4) The Bills want to change their O-line scheme.
5) It's a red herring to throw off our true drafting intentions.
I'm curious what those with more expertise think as this seems like a disconnect.I'd go with #4.
I think that there is change coming in 2023. We may have as many as 3 new starters on the O-line as it was exposed last season as a weakness. I also think that there is a desire for an in your face style of running game to compliment what we know Josh can do.
Change is coming!
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THREE prospects have met with the Bills on "multiple occasions".
1. OG O'Cyrus Torrence
2. RB Bijan Robinson
3. WR Jordan Addison
PRIVATE workouts outside of the combine or pro day arguably shows elevated interest:
1. DT Gervon Dexter
2. DT Jaquelin Roy
3. OG O'Cyrus Torrence
So for all the OG additions in the FA, we've not been talking all that much about GUARD. Most of us, myself included have shifted over to RT, and MLB as "top needs".
.....don't be overly surprised if we go with the best OG in the draft in round 1.....
Source: https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam
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WR Jordan Addison
LB Jack Campbell
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He's good. Very fast. Seems that the bulk of those highlights are in the backfield putting pressure on the QB, and that's important.
BUT
Can he cover Kelce? Not seeing much in there in terms of dropping back, and reading plays from that perspective.
I'd be happy with the pick but that's my question.
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I wanted OC Tyler Linderbaum over Elam last year.
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IOL juice scruggs
Sorry can’t elaborate at the moment…
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1 hour ago, Chaos said:
There are a number of posters who post condescending "good teams always draft BPA". When if fact there is no certainity who the BPA is, and no team actually ingores positional value and need. A true slave to BPA draft would likely be a disaster.
I like this websites way of showing each teams realistic targets at each pick.
https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/nfl-draft-targets-2023?team=BUF
Much more realistic way to think about it.Love this resource. Thanks for posting the link.
From this "projection", it looks as if the first spot where LB would come off the board is AFTER our pick at 27.
Sanders:
The first linebacker projected by this site would be Drew Sanders, between pick 30 (Eagles) - pick 43 (Jets). If Sanders is the target for the Bills, they could "stick and pick" Sanders at 27 unless someone moves up.
Campbell and Simpson tie:
The second linebacker comes off way down at pick 43 (Jets) and it's either Campbell or Simpson. If we missed on linebacker in round 1 or went with OT (or other BPA...), the Bills would have to get aggressive in round two to trade ahead of the Jets. Alternatively, the Bills could just trade down to something like 33ish..... and still have a very good chance at one of the top 3 linebackers (PLUS net extra picks...).
I vote for the trade down unless a top 15 prospect tumbles to 27.
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OBJ's market value now (after silence in the league)
GO!
I'm not sure of the number but it should be very little guaranteed, and performance based.....
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WR, by a long shot.
......but............. linebacker. haha.
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2 hours ago, Gugny said:
The problem is that we’re not winning.Also not true really. Did we lose against the Bengals? Yes.
We beat a very good Dolphins team in the playoffs as well.
Plus the team routinely puts up 30+ scoring games. I just can't go full out and say "we're not winning".
This team is poised to have a great shot at a superbowl next season.
My original point is that yes Diggs is an elite player but when you are yourself completely ineffective in a playoff game, it's pretty pathetic to hear him whining about anything.... sorry but can't stand diva attitudes when you put up a total FLUB in a playoff game.
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4 minutes ago, Gugny said:
Three catches (six targets) for seven yards vs. KC in 2021. That is a problem. You don't target your best weapon on offense six times . And if you do, you should expect him to get more than seven yards out of it.
Again ... I'm not calling Diggs out. But between Diggs, Allen and Dorsey, they need to figure out how to get Diggs the ball in the postseason.
And the offense put up 34 on Miami in the playoffs last year before quitting vs. the Bengals.
Respectfully disagree. As long as the ball gets into the endzone, and we get the "W" I don't care if Diggs is a double-teamed decoy for the whole game with only 6 targets.
Also, if you are only averaging 2.3 YPC, I think you look elsewhere. Right?
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2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:
Your looking at 2 stats and think that one is better over 2 stats? are you kidding me? While I agree Brown has more upside, this is about competition and depth yes?
We want to improve the line, and my point is that this guy would just be a lateral move without the chance for improvement. I'm hoping we get a starter at RT, and Brown becomes the backup (again, with upside).
Maybe he'd be a great candidate for a move to RG though, but we already added two OG's. I'm not opposed to something like that, if he's a vet minimum kind of guy.
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1 hour ago, GreggTX said:
Miles Jack and Robbie Anderson could really help us if the conditions are right.
Robbie Anderson's speed must be respected and Miles Jack is a decent replacement for Edmunds.
I don't know their recent history. Are there off field issues or injury issues with either of them? Can we afford them? They'd certainly fill a couple big holes going into the draft allowing Beane to focus on the OL for a change.
Your thoughts?
Nah... I think the WR room is already showing enough new faces and a draft might be enough to put us in great shape. Don't want another ego in the room with certain expectations.
I'm not sure about Jack really, but if he's cheap, why not add a body to compete (might not make the team).
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Brown was 6 and 4 respectively, and it could be argued has more upside.
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I'm still on Jack Campbell in a trade down scenario... Not a huge number of teams with MLB needs going into this draft so the odds are in our favour. Only Cleveland and Miami really need MLB, so I think Campbell is there in the '40s.
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If he's Jason Peters, will he last to 27?
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4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:
Not sure this is completely correct. KC uses multiple TEs often. Kelce is on the field over 75% of the time and this past season the other
3 TEs had a combined snap count just over 75%. Blake Bell is their current blocking TE (6'6", 260lbs), but was injured for most of the season.
They also use Bell for short yard rushing. He had 4 carries for 4 first downs in 2021. One of the reasons Kelce is the player he is, is because
he is used so much.
Couldn't agree more. Dawson is totally underutilized. He is in his prime and if they don't scheme him more it's a shame.
TEs are such an important part of today's modern NFL and it's not rocket science to figure out how to properly use the Bills TEs.
Just watch KC's film and design some plays they use for Knox. I'll add that @GunnerBillhas some good posts in this thread.
Using Knox more (at least 2-3 targets per game) reduces the need for this star WR2 a lot of fans keep screaming for.
Didn't know that about KC's TE's.
Thanks for that.
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Traded down to 31, got an extra #63 and 178.
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Again, there are zero teams ahead of us in the first round with MLB as a top need.
And in round 2, it's only Miami.
If we don't pick MLB in round 1 or in a trade down above Miami, there's a very good chance we miss out on a solid MLB that is ready to start right away. It's too important of a position to just let it slide.
I like our starting RT right now way more than our big fat question mark at MLB.
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16 minutes ago, Chaos said:
Dawson Knox is paid like a star player. He has certainly flashed star talent. And he seems like a wonderful human being. I feel like the Bills don't get the expected production of out his salary level because he needs to help in pass protection too much. A couple of questions which I am sure the more technical football analysts at TBD can help answer.
1)If we simply add a solid tackle, and handle protections that way, does Knox automatically become more productive
2)If we added a big blocking TE like Darnell Washington, would that make Know able to be more productive as the pass catching TE/someitme slot receiver3)If we added both a solid tackel and a blocking TE like Darnell Washington, could Knox's pass catching protection grow to the Kelce/Gronk level?
I feel like Knox is a break out star waiting to happen, but if it doesn't this year, it probably never will.Follow KC's formula for Kelce. Kelce doesn't have a blocking TE. Just a good offensive line.
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TSW Mock Draft 1.0 - Completed!!!
in The Stadium Wall
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Thanks for the offer CNYfan. Much appreciated, but I'm happy to sit back and watch this unfold this year!
If it's an annual thing, I'll keep a closer eye out for it next year.
Cheers!