Jump to content

Beck Water

Community Member
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    11,695

  • Joined

  • Last visited

 Content Type 

Posts posted by Beck Water

    Question for someone who has watched some practices. Who has looked better Barkley or Keenum?

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    10 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

     

    that’s what I thought, but the article makes a compelling case otherwise.  

     

    If that's what you thought, why you rollin' your eyes at my post that makes that point?

     

    I read your article.  The only "compelling case" it makes is the statement that Rudolph is having the best camp so far.  It goes on to say "If Rudolph can continue to play solid in camp, I don't see him losing the No. 2 spot on the depth chart," and "But there should be no shock that the only incumbent quarterback on the roster wouldn't look the best. Rudolph has the most time spent in the area, with the roster, in the playbook and with coaches."

     

    8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

    Is this the place to admit I kinda liked Rudolph for the Bills in that draft? All his big-time college program leadership and pedigree.

     

    In the spirit of destroying my credibility further, I liked Rosen more.

     

    Haha Brudda by another Mudda. 

     

    Question for someone who has watched some practices. Who has looked better Barkley or Keenum?

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    2 hours ago, tomur67 said:

    Will Keenum automatically be QB2? Or is there a real competition for the position?

     

    Seemed like in the stadium practice, Keenum was with the 2s and Barkley with the 3s

     

    1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

    I did see Keenum on the list of 7 people struggling.  

     

    Interestingly, Mitch Turbisky may be getting passed by Rudolph on the Steelers.  If that happened, would Mitch be back?  (Rudloph is better than people think, so him winning the QB competition should not be surprising)  

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/mason-rudolph-the-most-hated-man-in-pittsburgh/ar-AA10nu4e?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bc953b3a17aa481ca09cd124bff78990

     

     

     

    Peterman won the preseason competition with Allen and AJ McCarron.  He was clearly the best QB

    • Eyeroll 1
    • Haha (+1) 2

    Return of the Blue and Red (8/5 Scrimmage)

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    Joe B Athletic article on the scrimmage (paywall)

     

    https://theathletic.com/3482097/2022/08/06/bills-camp-observations-josh-allen-gabriel-davis/?source=emp_shared_article

     

    Quote

    The results were not kind to the defense. There wasn’t a single turnover, and the offense scored on eight of 12 total drives. Six of those scoring drives went for touchdowns. Three quarterbacks, Josh Allen, Case Keenum and Matt Barkley, completed 74 percent of their passes for 499 yards. Not a bad day at the office.

     

    I kind of think he ought to mention there that Von Miller had the night off from the 11 on 11 portions of practice right up front.  And of course Poyer was out and I think Hyde was limited.

     

    Quote

    The third-year receiver was getting open at will against the top cornerbacks the defense had to offer. Whether it was on short routes, in intermediate areas or deep down the field, Davis was getting open and making the defense pay. Allen wound up targeting Davis six times, and the pair linked up for five catches and 76 yards. More importantly, they teamed up for two of Allen’s three scoring tosses.

    The lone miss between the two was barely a miss at all. Allen lofted a perfect ball 25 yards down the field to the left side of the end zone. Davis beat cornerback Dane Jackson, rose up to secure the catch, got one foot in bounds and his second foot barely missed the end zone, making it an incompletion. Had Davis dragged the second foot, his day would have been five receptions on five targets for 99 yards and two touchdowns.

     

    Kaiir Elam had his rookie passport stamped "some assembly required".  Hopefully he learns from it.

     

    Quote

    It’s a bit of an understatement, but the young cornerbacks struggled mightily. You might have guessed, seeing that the Allen-led offense collected nearly 66 percent of the possible passing yardage. It just came far too easily for the prolific passing group, and it underscores what has been a pretty consistent trend throughout the 10 days of training camp.

    Although they have some young talent in rookie first-round pick Kaiir Elam, and some experience with Jackson, the defense has had to rely on the pass rush to make an impact. And when the pass rushers haven’t, Allen and his pass catchers have made their presence felt all summer.

     

    IMHO one of the worst secondary plays came on Knox's TD.  Knox threw Jaquan Johnson back several yards off the line, and he couldn't recover to get back in coverage in time.

     

    Moral: we need Hyde and Poyer, and we need Tre White.  And we need a pass rush.

    • Thank you (+1) 1

    Return of the Blue and Red (8/5 Scrimmage)

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said:

    Elam didn’t look good at all tonight. He really stood out, got beat on nearly every play against diggs/davis. Whose guarding kupp/Robinson week 1?

     

    Elam will learn from it and grow.

     

    Doesn't matter who's guarding Diggs/Davis if the DL can put the Rams QB on his ass, but the Bills usually do play zone.

    2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

    Here is a podcast about todays scrimmage.  Its 40 mins long.  I dont know if its good or not as I am just starting to listen to it.  Thought I would share since WGR cant be bothered to talk about football.

     

     

     

    It's Matt Parrino and Ryan Talbot's NYUP podcast.  They're a bit fanboy-ish but overall sound IMO

    Lil Dirty has a new nickname

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    On 8/4/2022 at 1:09 PM, Buffalo716 said:

    Again Nobody said he doesn’t play well when given the chance

     

    But it’s completely different to do it week in and week out for an entire season or Just turn up big for a few games

     

    He’s been here for four years and if they only made him a big part of the game plan twice maybe it’s cause he’s not always consistent… Day-to-day consistency is key in the NFL

     

    I agree on the consistency of course.

     

    I also see huge differences in how McKenzie runs routes and release now, vs 2-3 years ago.   In 2019 McKenzie was 100% a "Gadget Guy", and teams were keying on that - so they had him running some slants to try sow at least a little bit of doubt.  When Diggs arrived and Chad Hall took over as WR coach, the whole WR corps leveled up and McKenzie started to actually develop some route running.

     

    But even into last season .... McKenzie wasn't "all in" with what he needed to do until after he got benched.  One of us commented how in warmups before a game he personally observed McKenzie body-catching balls.

     

    After he got benched, I think he got a bunch of "tough love" from the players both telling him he can come back from it, but also pointing out there were reasons and he had to focus and be consistent in practice and be "coachable" not defensive, as well as hang onto the ball in games.

     

    So far he seems to have brought that message into this season and his route running seems to have leveled-up again from what I've seen.

    Return of the Blue and Red (8/5 Scrimmage)

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    17 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

    A few people have noted him still wearing the wrist thing at points.

     

    you can see it on his right wrist in Thad Brown's tweet of Josh playing catch with the fans

    It's also visible in Von Miller's tweet of his daughter Val, when Josh is holding her

    Lil Dirty has a new nickname

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    On 8/4/2022 at 12:01 PM, hondo in seattle said:

    I also thought Doug Martin was semi-original "Muscle Hamster."

     

    In any case, if I was McKenzie, I'd probably choose "Lil Muscle Hamster" over "Lil Dirty."

     

    Dunno.  Matakevich is known as "Dirty Red". 

     

    In a game where the line between "Tough" and "Dirty" is pretty thin, and where "Beast" or "Monster" are terms of admiration...

    ...I think I might rather be called "Dirty" than called a "Hamster"

     

    Even if it's a "Muscle Hamster", a hamster is still small and furry and not at all intimidating.

    IMO.

     

    11 minutes ago, muppy said:

    Lil Dirty has recently been shown on AGT with an NFL MEMBER based choir. Since his first appearance I haven't heard of any return plans. I'd love to see them perform again.

     

    Muppy eye candy y'all just being real.

     

    so lil dirty can Sing we can call him little ditty ...?

     

    Lil' Ditty ....that's brilliant....someone HAS to get that to the team, you know they would pick that up in a heartbeat

     

    IIRC they got progressed to the next round, so they will appear again.  But whether McKenzie will be able to take part I guess depends upon timing.

    • Like (+1) 1

    Training Camp practice 8/2

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, stevewin said:

    Random observations from today's practice

     

    - Mercifully cloudy today and much cooler - perfect weather

     

    - Chad Hall has a lot of energy

    - They tried a jet sweep to McKittrick that he fumbled and failed.  I assume he's just really trying to prove he's not a gadget guy 

     

    Outstanding, Thank you for this!

     

    I hope Chad Hall and his energy get through to McKenzie and get him refocused on "whatever you do, HANG ON TO THE BALL!" 

    I heard he had a rough day all around (McKenzie I mean)

    5 minutes ago, stevewin said:

    Back of EZ

     

    Thanks

    Training Camp practice 8/2

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    1 hour ago, Mango said:

     

    There were reports that earlier in practice JP had made contact with Keenum and Josh pulled him aside and told him to back off.

     

    More than anything I think this is a tough roster to make at the moment, so low end guys like Phillips show up with much more stress than usual. 

     

    Do you see Jordan Phillips as "low end" on the Bills DL?

     

    He's like their 3rd highest paid DLman, after Oliver and DaQuan Jones - second if you take into account the void year to split the signing bonus - and his $4.25M is said to be guaranteed , with $3M guaranteed at signing

     

    2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

    Got to think Josh is thinking "This is going to be a thing now isn't." after getting asked to sign his second baby.

     

    I hope Josh draws the line at "Sign my Poodle, S'il vous Plait"

    Tua impressing in Miami

    in The Stadium Wall

    Posted

    18 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

     

    Bills will have a massive target on their back this year because of all the media hype and this honestly is a great thing for our rivals, both division and conference wide because guarantee teams like KC and CIN are loving it since all the attention and pressure isn't being thrown their way. Also guarantee neither of those lockerrooms consider the Bills a threat to them, at least KC anyway.

     

    But in regards to Miami, why wouldn't their fanbase be optimistic right now with a new offensive minded head coach and roster that is oozing with talent? Obviously they may get a major reality check soon like many other teams when the live bullets start flying.

     

    Well, you oughtta have the straight dope on the Phins fanbase mate

    • Haha (+1) 1
×
×
  • Create New...