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  1. 7 hours ago, Motorin' said:

    That's a whole lot of energy and words to try to prove you're right.

     

    It has got to suck for you to be a Bills fan right now knowing that you have the statistical proof that your team's QB will fail to live up to expectations. 

     

    I personally can't wait to watch the Bills play next year, and I'm really excited to see Allen's growth in year 3. Go Bills! 

     

     

     

    No it's called facts you conveniently ignore.

     

    He's not proving, he's showing facts and then arguing from facts.

     

    You have nada

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  2. 41 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

     

    Josh Allen's 2nd year stats in ANY/A are better than the 2nd and 3rd year average of Kirk Cousins, Ryan Tannehill, Case Keenum and Teddy Bridgewater and within a hair of Dak Prescott, Andy Dalton and Cam Newton. 

     

    Are you really insisting that Josh can't be as good or better than any of those QB's bc his rookie year's stats skew him lower then them, even if his 2nd year was better than theirs was? Is he really always defined by his rookie year? His second year growth doesn't count? And he can't get better in his third year because his rookie stats have historical precedents? 

     

    Then I guess you've got the magic analytic combo, as long as anyone who doubts it's predictive power has to tie one hand behind their back any only follow the rules you set.

     

    Really good manipulation to try to make the numbers work. You changed years 1 & 2 to 2 & 3 so Allen would be exempt from a real comparison.

     

    It's alright I fixed it for you:
    http://pfref.com/tiny/dIDkk

     

    Allen's real numbers apples to apples is below Jacoby Brissett and Mike Glennon but above Tannehill.

     

    Now to be fair to Allen I don't think holding 2018 against him would be fair. OC was horrible, drop city, and the #1 WR was lazy with no O-line.

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  3. 21 hours ago, gobills404 said:

    Here are breakdowns of all his throws from 2 of those 3 games (couldn't find anything for the pats game). If you actually took the time to rewatch Allen's games instead of just parroting stats you saw online without context, you would see that his actual play on the field far exceeds what's reflected on the stat sheet.

     

    Also literally nobody has ever said that Allen is currently a great quarterback. Even the most die-hard Bill's homers know he's still a work in progress.

     

     

    Actually I re-watched the Ravens game and he was flat out horrible. This is not "all his throws" it's his throws on long 3rd downs. The whole first half he was over-throwing receivers and way off base. It wasn't even close to a good performance.

  4. 23 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

    Who threw for more TDs per pass attempt: Allen or Tom Brady?


    Who threw more INTs: Allen or Tom Brady?
     

    Who threw for a higher on-target percentage: Allen or Tom Brady?

     

    Who had a higher yards per pass attempt: Allen or Tom Brady?

     

    Actually you're proving my point inadvertently. The Patriots were 12-4 and Brady played horribly the 2nd half, and really most of the season.Those wins were not from Brady "winning" but the team winning DESPITE Tommy Boy.

     

    If the bar is "How does Josh rank in a few categories against a QB in a his worst year at 42 yrs old for context" then YES YOU WIN THE PRIZE.

     

    If the question is "How is Josh in the bottom 1/3rd of the most statistically significant categories 2 years in a row and why does that need context" then YOU LOSE.

  5. 10 hours ago, thebandit27 said:


    I absolutely love that anything negative about Josh is a “fact” while anything that provides context is an “excuse” ? 

     

    Yeah because being the lowest rated starting QB for the season in yards per game and completion % 2 years in a row needs context. :thumbsup:

     

    Did you know if Jamarcus Russell just added 1 touchdown a game he would still be starting in the NFL?

  6. 10 hours ago, Talley56 said:

    Without Bell or Brown, missing an entire season, and getting close to 40, I don't see Ben being very effective anymore.  Ravens may take a small step back but they'll still be one of the best teams in the AFC and probably the entire league.

     

    Because QBs are more important to the success of a WR than the WR making the QB. His last playoff game he threw for almost 500 yards and a bunch of TDs. He's got the mental part of it, I doubt he'll have a major regression unless he gets injured.

     

    If he plays this year he'll be good for 4200+ yards and 25 TDs minimum. If that was Allen we would be having a heart-attack in excitement.

  7. Best 2 young QBs are black

    Best RB is white

    Best rapper last 20 years was white

    Best golfer last 20 years is black

     

    We are no longer in a brawn world, but a brains world. If you miss opportunity by hiring someone based on race you lose out. If an owner is going to hire someone based on race he losses millions. He hires mostly black athletes to begin with.

     

    GM "Mr. Owner we have a great WR but he's black"

    Owner: "Nope, I want a white one like Thielen. While you're at it find a white RB too."

     

    Seriously? That's how dumb you think owners are?

     

    There are more white coaches period, it's not a race thing. Most white guys who weren't athletes but loved sports became coaches. Most black coaches were once athletes, that's not true of guys like John Gruden or the Shanahans.

     

    The problem is at the top of the funnel, not the bottom. Most Sean McVays wanted to be a coach and studied their rears off in the teens and 20's, that's your competition. If this were really about race they would make the same quota for athletes but that's exceptionally dumb and everyone would scoff at it rightfully so.

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  8. 21 hours ago, whatdrought said:

    Congratulations Mr. Black candidate, you’ve got the job and it definitely has nothing to do with us getting a bonus because of your melanin. 

     

    RACIST

     

    21 hours ago, Happy said:

    each candidate should be considered on his abilities, and nothing else.

     

    RACIST

     

    20 hours ago, KD in CA said:

    I'm so old I remember when we aspired to be a 'color-blind' society.

     

    RACIST

     

    21 hours ago, mjt328 said:

    What a blatantly racist idea.

     

    RACIST

     

     

    /SARCASM

  9. 9 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

    So basically, if we don’t manipulate the stats he’s a bottom tier passer. 
     

    Luckily he’s a really good runner because I’d hate to see him having to rely solely on throwing the ball.

     

    Sadly, even if you manipulate the numbers he's still in the bottom 3rd of passing.

     

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/season/2019/seasontype/2/table/passing/sort/completionPct/dir/desc

  10. PREDICTION: He'll only be resigned if he is willing to take a Dalton like contract from the Bengals. If so yes.

     

    SPECULATION: I predict a slight regression in average QB salaries in the next 5 yrs. The top guys will get paid more than ever, but the rest of the pack will have a regression.

     

    Looking at how Beane plays his hand he likes to not overspend on 1 player because it puts too much pressure on the team and the draft.

     

    I can't see Josh being a great passer to justify the contract and if he's resigned it's because we're "winning" but let me also go on record that the W/L will change drastically without their ability to play defense like McDermott wants and if you want to see the great struggle between Bean and McD this will be the test.

     

    I'm also on record if the schedule holds up to be a hard one the coach will want to move from Allen if he doesn't massively step up. He's basically a liability as a passer with elite athletic ability at this point, so if he steps up as a passer we'll all be happy.

     

     

  11. The 2 passes could go against him too. He could complete 2 less passes.

     

    In other words you can't argue a hypothetical which didn't happen. A hypothetical is for things that haven't happened.

     

    Allen's biggest weakness is his mental processing. That's not easy to fix. In fact rarely if ever fixed. In the Dallas game post 1st quarter he threw amazingly precise passes. Something in his mental process was just ON, but the whole rest of the season with few exceptions that wasn't the case. He wasn't accurate like you'd expect a entrenched starter. Matt Moore had more timing on his passes last season.

     

    Point is he needs to be the Allen of Dallas and BETTER because even though we won, we weren't offensive juggernauts and throwing for 230 yards isn't all that impressive. It will win you enough games with a great defense, but you'll love more than you win if you are playing the Saints or Chiefs.

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  12. 9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I didn’t say what they did was right. The whole point is that they still have 9 Super Bowl appearances and 6 titles in that span. The cheating helped them but they still crushed teams. The Deflategate game was 45-7. If it was 31-28 people would be irate. It was a massacre. The rules that they broke certainly helped them but they were historically good either way. 

     

    Ok but we aren't talking about the Colts game, that's the problem. Every game that they won by 1 score or less could have been influenced previous to that game. Did you see their fumble rate that year and previous years? Stop looking at 1 game, and ask yourself if it helped every game before that one.

     

    Still doesn't eliminate videoing teams, frequencies, etc.. That's not historically good, it's historically cheating. They got busted just a few months ago. If it wasn't helping why are they doing it?

     

    Again, focusing on the Colts game is deflection. Would they have had home field advantage with some of their "wins"? Would those fumbles or increased production throwing helped them "win" games they might not have? Did it help their drop rate?

     

    The science is there: lowest drops and lowest fumbles by a wide margin, the margin so big it's impossible to deny. Look it up instead of throwing 1 game as if that's what we're discussing instead of a systemic system of corruption.

  13. 40 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    It’s not like what the Houston Astros did. A semi-deflated football isn’t the reason that they beat the Colts 45-7 in that game. I’d call pretending that was the reason for winning “mental gymnastics.” The Astros still have a championship too and what they did was infinitely worse. 

     

    It's not deflating footballs. Hell, I think that's a stupid part of the "cheating". Although their fumble rate was the lowest ever in the league by a whopping margin, but I digress.

     

    I call taping teams, using your radio frequencies to listen to plays, breaking their coms, having spies on walk-throughs, having a special frequency to the QB in his helmet, and placing people on top of roofs to spy pretty freaking serious and it's so serious the NFL BURNS THE EVIDENCE on the same day they receive it. And then their coaches know about it: Magini turned them in and McDaniel's getting caught doing it too.

     

    Then being caught in 2019 doing the same thing.

     

    Yeah pretty serious and it has nothing to do with footballs.

  14. 8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    If those mental gymnastics help you sleep at night go for it. I’m not going to attempt to rewrite history to meet what I wish would have happened. They’ve certainly pushed the boundaries of what’s acceptable. They’ve certainly played in 9 Super Bowls and won 6 with BB as their HC. Both of those things are true. 

     

    Mental gymnastics of getting caught? hahaha

     

    Caught 3 times, evidence and records, assistants who become head coaches also cheating and busted. Yup, mental gymnastics.

     

    Nothing they were busted for was "accpetable". That's mental gymnastics.

  15. 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Belichick is still 1. I hate him but he has been to 9 Super Bowls and won 6. He’s won 31 playoff games. He did this in the free agency era. It’s BB and everyone else. 

     

    Minus his cheating he's been to no Superbowls and won nothing.

     

    Cheatriots... they deserve no praise.

  16. 15 hours ago, njbuff said:

    Because of the past failings of Bills QB's, Josh Allen isn't allowed to go thru the growing progression as an NFL QB.

     

    Sorry to bust your bubble but I think most of us would give him more leeway as a QB if he wasn't in the bottom 3rd of so many QB categories.

     

    The same would be true if QBs new contracts weren't so high against the cap. Let's say he has moderate progression from last year. Are you willing to allocate what will be Prescott money at $35 mil a year for level production?

    51 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

    Yeah, well live with it dude. Don't really care what your analytics say, I watched the games and I know I saw Allen lead numerous fourth qtr comebacks. Skepticism that likes to shoot down every good thing the fella does starts to seem like an agenda, even if it's "realism."

     

    Against who? Bengals, Jets, Giants and I forgot the 4th but 3 of those 4 sucked and it wasn't like a comeback in the scheme of 2 heavy hitters, but some of the worst teams in the league.

     

    The Chiefs coming back in the 2nd quarter from a massive deficit in the 2nd quarter against the Titans is far more meaningful because of the deficit and what was required than 1 score games against bad teams.

     

    I watched him against the Pats and the Ravens and I didn't see anything special in the 4th quarter.

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