FireChans
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24 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:
If they were so dead set on Dugger at 54, why wouldn’t they have drafted Jeremy Chinn who was still there at our pick? Similar players except Chinn is much younger. I don’t buy it.
Why did the Patriots take Dugger over Chinn?
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1 hour ago, NoSaint said:
he’s carried the ball about 1,000 times. As a qv you don’t do that without having some heart.
sure he’s got an ego. Sure I don’t enjoy his personality. Sure I think despite being a generational specimen he’s not always 100% plugged in but you don’t do what he’s done without some heart.
I really do not understand these takes.
As someone who lost a lot of respect for Cam on that bad SB play, I don’t know how you say he has no heart.
I also dont know why he gets crushed as much much as he does compared to an Aaron Rodgers.
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7 hours ago, MJS said:
I think the fans are largely mocked around the league for the table jumping. Attention isn't always a good thing. It's a good thing the fans donated to charities and did some good, because they opened a lot of eyes that there is more to Bills fans besides drunken injuries.
But honestly I don't care that much. I don't mind if some idiots want to jump through tables. But nobody should delude themselves into thinking that it is viewed positively.
Personally, I don't care if we are known. That doesn't excite me at all. I want a winning team and that's about all.
I want young kids to be happy to be drafted or play for the Bills. Kids who are in college know the Bills as a team with great and sometimes crazy fans. That makes them excited to play here. That helps us be good.
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15 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:
Zero logic, smug attitude. You're one of those guys who thinks, despite all evidence, that they are somehow smarter than everyone else and comes on a message board to try and pump themselves up. I'll bow out of this particular exchange.
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You didn’t even attempt the answer the question. Not sure you were ever interested in a discussion.
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8 minutes ago, Doc said:
Trying to trade him post-June 1st will be tough. Most teams have their caps tied-up by then and will find it hard to absorb his $14M salary. If they're going to get rid of him after next season, they're going to have to cut him on the 1st or 2nd league day and get nothing, not even a comp pick, for him.
There may be a couple teams that keep some room open if they know Rodgers is going to be on the market come June 1.
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12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
17? Half the residents of that state were parents at 17.
You should be his lawyer.
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2 minutes ago, Doc said:
True, there is no post-June 1st trade designation, just cut. Meaning they'd get nothing for losing him and he'd be free to sign anywhere.
I think I’d rather trade Rodgers after 6/1 rather than cut him, even if it accelerates a 2021 hit a little more. But it’s not my money.
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6 minutes ago, Doc said:
Yes, which is why I said they would need to cut/trade him prior to the 3rd league day but with a post-June 1st designation. If they actually wait until after June 1st, then they have to pay that roster bonus and probably his workout bonus, making his dead cap almost $22M and they lose $7M in cap room.
If that was the case, then why does Sporttrac say that cutting him with a post 6/1 designation is the same as trading him? AFAIK, you can’t make “post 6/1” trade designations.
If his dead cap is $22M, they are still saving $14M in space by getting rid of him. Because his total hit is $36M in 2021.
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6 minutes ago, Doc said:
I think I see the discrepancy. They're figuring he's traded prior to the 3rd day of the league year, somewhere in March, and given a post-June 1st designation. Will they be able to do that is the question?
Yeah, the Packers are the Cheaters. OK. Never mind that Brady was the same age as ARod back then, coming off a similar season production-wise, but ARod is done. Great logic, as always. What you fail to realize is that drafting Jimmy G was a waste because Brady wasn't done and they had to trade him away, and are now looking for another QB.
And yes, throwing for 20 TDs and 17 INTs in the powerhouse Mountain West Conference isn't the sign of a project QB.
Silly? Nothing can top your "Diggs isn't a top-10 receiver because I don't think he'd have gotten x yards in his last game or because 3 guys in 2015..." Never mind the "Singletary is a fumbler...fumbles are over blown."
I think that bonus is still paid if he is traded post June 1 and it’s included in his cap hit.
The “early” designation is for cutting only I believe, and exists solely for teams to be able to spread out cap hits.
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So much for leaving to get your head right.
Yikes.
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19 minutes ago, Doc said:
From what I gather, ARod has a roster bonus of $6.8M due on the 3rd league year in 2021, which is somewhere in March. If they wait until June 1st to cut/trade him, sure they can spread out the $31.556M dead cap/bonus hit, but that's another $6.8M on their books for 2021, pushing it to $14.3M. And since his salary in 2021 in $14.7M, they're saving around $500K, not $22M.
He could very well force their hand to trade/release him. Depends on how he wants to play it.
His cap hit in 2021 is $36M. His dead cap if traded post 6/1 is $14.3M. Thus, $22M in savings.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/aaron-rodgers-3745/
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Just now, JerseyBills said:
Wow. .
They'll be releasing some great talent next year. I'd love to ***** DE Graham
Sir, this is a family site.
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5 minutes ago, Doc said:
So they were so thoroughly out-classed by the 49'ers that they...decided to give up and draft a project QB who won't help them for at least 2 years? LOL! If that's the case, they should have traded whoever they could and start all over with that brilliant logic.
Mock drafts are worthless for predicting anything after the 1st round, never mind the 5th round. The point in mentioning this was to say that no one was calling for the Packers to draft a QB in the 1st round, which is entirely different from taking a backup QB in the 5th round.
Yeah they can't trade him for 2 years because of the cap hit, as I've repeatedly said. The question is whether ARod plays good soldier or not over the next 2 seasons.
That’s not true.
20 minutes ago, FireChans said:I think this is right. Next year is his last year in GB.
Trading him in 2021 post 6/1 will give them $22M in savings, with a $14M and $17M hit spread out over two seasons.
He’s actually quite movable next year.
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3 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:
They will trade him next year, start love, and use the draft pick/picks to build around Love.
The Rodgers era is near the end.
I think this is right. Next year is his last year in GB.
1 hour ago, papazoid said:GB is definitely NOT cutting him
his contract says he will be there for 3 more seasons....otherwise the dead money would be crazy high.....first potential out is in 2023
might they trade him before that ?....very doubtful.
i'm going the other way regarding drafting a backup QB with a first rounder....i applaud GB......everytime rodgers gets hurt....the team takes a chit
Trading him in 2021 post 6/1 will give them $22M in savings, with a $14M and $17M hit spread out over two seasons.
He’s actually quite movable next year.
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13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
They really aren’t. That’s why this is so crazy. They honestly believe he is the next big star in this league.
He may be the most untouchable Saint outside of Brees.
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53 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:
Put whatever spin you want on it but I never stated that it was the only reason, just a part that helped influence his decision to leave. As far as Tampa goes it’s rumored that San Fran was his first choice but they passed. Tampa was only an alternative.
It’s hard to spin, “you’re wrong.”
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Just now, Alphadawg7 said:
LOL.
NO.
/END THREAD.
Topics like these are consistently my favorite. Like that wonderful Zay Jones Stats topic.
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2 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:
Oh, I didn’t realize that they played defense.
The Bills haven’t beaten the Pats once in the McD era and Brady is jumping ship because he’d rather face the New Orleans Saints twice a year, a team that has gone 13-3 the last two seasons with Drew Brees at the helm?
Come on man.
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I would bet they didn’t enter into the equation at all.
He went to a division with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan In it.
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Just now, BillsFanNC said:
I'm sure he's very interested in the Bills, and there are a lot of ways to show it. Unfortunately this clip shows that he's also interested in inebriated, idiotic Bills fans injuring themselves. Not a good look.
Josh Allen threw a guy through a table like 2 months ago.
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7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
This is crazy. BOB tho!
Jameis said he took a paycut.
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4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
Uggh...not a good look promoting the table jumping nonsense.
God forbid kids are actually interested in the Bills.
College players don't care about Chuck Knox or Jim Kelly, surprisingly.
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4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
I never got the LaFleur hire. The Titans weren’t a good offense. I don’t hate the Love pick but I get why Rodgers is upset. Plus with guys playing to 40 now, there is less urgency to get a guy.
and normally, I’m for what’s best for the franchise. But Rodgers is their franchise. He got held back by McCarthy and Dom Capers and his toupee. They literally have one nfl starting caliber receiver and did nothing to improve it.
i do think Love will be a player in the long run though. But if I was a Pack fan, I would go all in on an all time great qb.
I think you got that backwards. McCarthy let Rodgers do whatever he wants. He certainly wasn't an incredible coach, but not the worst you can do.
Biscuit, what you have to understand is that the Pack have a new GM/HC combo. These guys weren't here in 2014. You are arguing they are giving up on Rodgers too early. You could be right. They have evaluated their roster and made their picks accordingly. I don't think they had a stellar draft myself, but when you saw how they got absolutely dismantled in the postseason, it's hard to argue Tee Higgins is going to make or break them next season, and they took Love to secure a successor.
Should they have drafted a receiver in the 4th? Probably. Do I think Gabe Davis on the Packers really makes a difference? No. You can get receivers who contribute at that level day one off the scrap heap.
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Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:
Win loss record??? What a lazy argument when talking about a guy like Rodgers. He threw 41 tds, 8 ints in 23 games in 2017 and 2018. Clearly, he was holding GB back. Need more Hundley and Kizer.
I don’t remember saying he was holding them back. He just isn’t as good as he used to be. This happens to every QB that plays. Some folks try to pretend Father Time won’t come for their favorite QB, but he always does.
Report: Bills we’re taking Dugger at 54 if he was there
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Exactly.
If the Redskins loved Burrow, why didn’t they draft Jake Fromm?