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On 11/18/2019 at 9:41 AM, Ray Finkel said:
Lamar didn’t have a problem
Everyone in hindsight would have picked Mahomes and Watson .. except of course the experts were very strong on Trubisky for that draft. It is easy to backseat drive two years later. Even if you thought jackson was the best .. you didn't know. The fact that jackson is having the year he is having doesn't chnage what Josh is doing. He came in as the rawest of the draft choices with the highest ceiling .. he has grown which is what we should all be looking for
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From this article: https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bears/ct-chicago-bears-mitch-trubisky-2017-nfl-draft-20191112-mkiclk4l4jb3bndxf7azbtdw6m-story.html
"In more than a few circles, Trubisky was tabbed as the best pro prospect, lauded for his accuracy and quick release, his mobility and pocket awareness.
In the spring of 2017, a wide majority of major publications pegged him as the top quarterback in their mock drafts. Sports Illustrated. Fox Sports. The Washington Post. USA Today. CBS Sports. The Los Angeles Times.
ESPN’s Mel Kiper also arrived for draft weekend with Trubisky as his top-rated quarterback and No. 19 prospect overall, followed by Mahomes (No. 26), Watson (No. 34) and Pittsburgh’s Nathan Peterman (No. 59).
His colleague Todd McShay ranked the top five quarterbacks as Trubisky, Watson, Mahomes, Kizer and Tennessee’s Josh Dobbs. But in McShay’s opinion at that time, none was worthy of a first-round grade.
NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah agreed. Jeremiah, who spent time as a college scout with the Ravens, Browns and Eagles, bunched three quarterbacks in his ranking of the top 50 prospects: Watson 28th, Trubisky 32nd and Kizer 33rd.
Mahomes? Not even on that list."
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2 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said:
Last two opponents are 5-17, not convinced yet. Let's see how they do against the next two opponents where they potentially need to put up the same amount, if not more points, against higher quality opponents. They won the last two games like they were supposed to, convincingly, but let's be real the opponents sucked. It's like solving a 1+1 math problem and then turning around and saying your a mathematician now, let's pump the brakes.
Here is the interesting thing about your comment .. the Bills have won 8 games and the Cowboys 6, but the Cowboys are a good team per your comment and we are not certain about the Bills because who they have beaten. Who exactly have the Cowboys beaten .. the murderer's row of Giants * 2, Redskins, Dolphins, Lions, and Eagles. Since they beat the eagles and we lost .. does that make the difference? Then what about the jets who we beat and they lost to? So if we beat the Cowboys do we say the Cowboys are not very good because they are a .500 team.
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4 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:
Well maybe Romo will call the next 1 since it's Thanksgiving in Dallas.
Your wish is granted ... https://buffalonews.com/2019/11/22/romo-nantz-to-work-bills-cowboys-game-on-thankgiving-gannon-warns-billls-not-to-look-past-broncos/
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In related news, Leighton Vander Esch is likely to miss the Bills game as well as Jason Garrett was discussing has injury as he doesn't think it is career ending or season ending. Those are not phrases used when the person will be back next week https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/jason_garrett_raises_eyebrows_discussing_leighton_vander_eschs_neck_injury/s1_127_30610982... then again this is Jason Garrett
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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
So that means Jerry Hughes is good to go .. he practiced fully today.
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18 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Before I read it, there anything negative in that article? I don't want to be triggered. I would have to start a thread against this article and its author in particular and that site in general---and I'm already pretty busy today.
Don't read it. Here is an example of the hate spewed "He’s wearing a gray T-shirt and a pair of blue shorts that (a) look straight out of an ’80s NBA game, and (b) are decidedly too small for a guy who weighs 237 pounds". Clearly a never Josher.
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Cowboys for the win .. though it will be harder as Vander Esch is looking to be out for the game. If he remains out through the Thanksgiving game .. I will forgive him.
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I am not cool enough to be able to start a thread ..
.. so I thought this was the best place to put this. Mohammed Sanu to be out potentially several weeks. Anything to hurt the Patriots is appreciated.
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3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I haven’t any of this thread but from being here for north of 25k posts (embarrassing) I want to try something new. Did the conversation go like this? Those who didn’t want Josh tried to dig in and take a “wait and see approach.” Those who wanted Josh tried to say “I told you so” and disparaged every other QB in the class. It broke off into a debate of should we have taken Lamar (as he is the best of that class but those on this side would have easily taken Baker, Rosen, Darnold, Rudolph, etc.. to fit the argument). Those defending Josh immediately have to discredit Lamar (or Baker, Rosen, Darnold, Rudolph, etc..) to strengthen their argument for Josh. The one thing that we’ve learned on this message board is there CAN’T be 2 successful guys, at the same position, in the same draft class.
How did I do?
Last year .. Baker was by far the next great thing .. this year not so much. The fact is we will know in 3 years or so .. who if any (including JA) will be great. I think Josh has clearly progressed, but what is to say he won't regress like Baker did. What is to say Baker won't regain his form? We shall see, but in the meantime I am excited to see if Josh can continue to grow. To your point .. the always Joshers are just as frustrating as the wrong Joshers.
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Didn't see this posted elsewhere, but Chris Brown mentioned on One Bills Live on Monday at the 1:49 mark that he talked to Josh about his comfort with the no huddle based on how comfortable he looked. Josh indicated he is more comfortable in No Huddle and it helps him make better decisions and he expects that is where they will be going coming up. https://www.buffalobills.com/audio/obl-11-18-josh-allen-on-his-strong-outing-in-sunday-s-win-eric-wood-chris-brown-
I am excited to see it.
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On 11/17/2019 at 4:31 PM, SoCal Deek said:
At some point you have to beat a good team....period
Actually you don't .. at least until the playoffs. If they beat the Steelers, Broncos, and Jets they will be in .. and Cleveland which knocked off Baltimore (a good team) will be out. You just have to have more wins. And once you get to the playoffs .. anything can happen.
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On 11/17/2019 at 5:04 PM, Chemical said:
I mean sure, the "detractors" can admit when he has a good game. I see no reason why not.
Can you admit when he has a bad one? Or is "detractor" just another term for someone who doesn't pretend they don't see the bad games/throws?
The question was not about being open that he can have a good game or a bad game. Tom "freakin" Brady has some bad games. The question is whether people that were against him and have basically made it a point to criticize him ad nauseam can admit the fact that he has shown clear improvement (i.e., growth). If you do not think he has a) then you probably never will; or b) you over-confidently bought a Bill's Rosen jersey and would like to get some use out of it.
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2 hours ago, Limeaid said:
Actually (so far):Home: 3-2 (P*ts, Eagles)
Away: 4-1 (Browns)
2 hours ago, Limeaid said:
Actually (so far):Home: 3-2 (P*ts, Eagles)
Away: 4-1 (Browns)
Sorry. My sentence was not clear. What I was saying is 1) we are the better team; 2) we are at home. We need to therefore just win and not worry about whatever is going on with Denver.
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10 hours ago, GimmeSomeProcess said:
Big difference though, Brandon Allen is no mayfield or wentz.
Mayfield 2020 is no Mayfield 2019 so I wouldn't use that as a rationale for why the "team in turmoil" moniker is going to help us. We are the better team at home .. we need to win this whether the broncos love or hate their coach.
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47 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:
The Bills passed on Mahomes, Watson and Jackson, that should make any Bills fan blush more than a proctology exam
All 32 teams passed on Tom Brady back in 2000 and everyone also passed on Russell Wilson, and even the teams that didn't pass on Mahomes .. if they knew then what they know now they would have pushed all in to get to the top of the draft to get him. The problem with cherry picking the winners and saying the Bills should have selected that person is that going into the process while you may have suspected one of these guys would be good .. you really don't know. The goal is to make a good percentage more right decisions than wrong decisions. We should have drafted Mike Evans, we should have drafted Richard Sherman in 2011, we should have drafted Julian Edelman in 2009. You could do this all day .. for the Patriots as well as the Bills
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With 7 victories .. those that made the bet for Bills over 6.5 wins are in the money .. congrats! Enjoy the winnings ...
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A really nice, unbiased (though a bit more positive) review of Josh Allen vs Browns .. some good .. some bad. The missed deep ball to Isaiah in particular thought was interesting as it looked like an overthrow, but Isaiah was just lost.
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Nice video from 2018 where UFC Chuck Liddell teaches the Browns how to fight .. did not see the session on how to use the opponents helmet as a cudgel.
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The real winners on Thursday .. the AFC teams fighting for a wild card. Pittsburgh loses the game and their center for 3 games. the browns win the game but lose their best player for the year. The remaining AFC team's in the playoff hunt just increased their odds of making the playoffs.
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20 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:
Talk about false equivalency.
Rudolph was the aggressor.
Rudolph was the aggressor in normal football pile pushing and pulling. Garrett then escalated it to a different level, a level I have never seen. The closest is when Albert Haynesworth stepped on a guys head who had lost his helmet (he received 5 games). The fact that it was a glancing blow was fortunate as he had a Steeler lineman holding him back so he could not get a good swing. This will be minimum 5 games and I would suspect a 6 game suspension which will not be reduced (plenty of time for some real clubbing).
As for the baseball analogy with the pitcher throwing toward the head of the batter .. a couple simple differences 1) The batter is wearing a helmet. 2) the batter is looking for the ball because pitchers throw the ball toward the area where the batter is standing .. kinda part of the game. A better analogy would be the the batter says something to the catcher that he doesn't like and the catcher gets up, rips off the batter's helmet and clubs the batter with it.
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6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:
If this game had been in Pittsburgh, Myles Garrett would have been joining them for a ride downtown.
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1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:
Tell all NFL head coaches they get to poach 1 player off the Bills tomorrow.
Is there a coach in the league who would not take White?
Sure as heck wouldn't be Allen!
To be clear .. the Dolphins gave up a 2nd for Josh Rosen .. based on potential despite having shown nothing. JA came into the league as the rawest rookie in the 2018 class with the hope of a high ceiling. His floor was not as bad as what many feared though we are still uncertain of his ceiling. Terry Bradshaw who turned out ok (HOF) had a below 50% completion percentage and 19 TDs and 46 ints over his first two years. Yes it was a different time, but most QBs take time to develop .. if he is still not getting us offense by mid next year I will be along side you in advocating moving on .. but many of the people here .. need to CHILL.
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On 11/4/2019 at 4:31 PM, Jpsredemption said:
Not a very good 6-2 team. They’ve played two good teams (if you even want to consider Philly good) and lost.
Yet Dallas is a good 5-3 team which happened to lose to the Jets. At the end of the day .. people assume the Bills are bad because they have for the last 20 years they have been bad. If this were 1994, people would be discussing Buffalo's inevitable march to another strong showing in the playoffs. The team and the players will get their due if they keep winning and more importantly if they start winning in the playoffs.
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Nice interview with Josh Allen by Yahoo .. discusses Bills Mafia and the city of Buffalo in addition to how he is looking to improve. https://sports.yahoo.com/cover-3-josh-allen-bringing-232418799.html
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Josh Allen: Stats Through 11 Games (2018 vs. 2019)
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Not me .. I wanted Rosen. A QB that was the most pro-ready with a reasonable ceiling and a high floor .. how was I supposed to know the high floor was a basement. Just wait till he goes to his third team .. then he will show everyone .....