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  1. The flanker or flankerback was originally a halfback motioned out or set out to the flank of the T formation.  He was the receiver off the LOS.  On the other side, the end split out to the flank was the "split end."  The other end tight to the tackle was the "tight end."

     

    Clark Shaughnessy is usually credited with the innovation of motioning out the halfback.  Note that Shaughnessy did not invent the concept of man in motion but maximized its effectiveness.  

     

    Shaughnessy was one of the greatest innovators in the game of football.

     

    I'll end with a question: why are offensive tackles called tackles?  They don't tackle anyone.

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  2. 18 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

    then got burned by Tom Brady's eyes that led to the game winning TD?

    That's a difficult play for any LB to make.  Edmunds is the MLB and he has no outside help -- the LB on that side Milano blitzes.  Looks like the DB who normally would cover the receiver doubles one of the receivers to the other side.  The receiver crosses behind Edmunds.

     

    At no point does Edmunds have a shot at making the tackle -- he's behind the receiver, who is faster than him.

     

    A good play call against our D.  The blitz didn't get to Brady in time.

  3. 2 hours ago, HoofHearted said:

    Tampa runs Buck Sweep on 1st and 10 and catch Buffalo rolling 3 weak. Buffalo is beat at birth right here based on alignment since they have Rousseau lined up in a 7 tech instead of a 9 and their Sam linebacker (Milano) playing a 50 and having to set the edge from depth. Milano's responsibility is to set the edge so he is going to take on the first puller with outside leverage forcing Edmunds to take on the second puller with outside leverage and force the play back inside to the Will/Nickel (Johnson) and Strong Safety (Poyer). Johnson missed the tackle and Poyer got worked by the Left Tackle as the Alley player allowing the touchdown. Edminds fit his gap assignment. Anyone who says he overran the play doesn't understand football and run fit assignments.

    Excellent post. You obviously know your X's & O's. 

     

    I have a question for you about Josh's ball placement on his dump off passes to RBs. 

     

    First the content: Josh throws behind the RB forcing him to turn his back to the D to receive the ball.  This allows the D to rally to the RB and the result is that the play gains minimal yardage.  When I see similar plays executed by other teams the gain often is 5-7 yards.

     

    Here's the question: are QBs coached to lace the throw behind the RB or is that just Josh?

  4. This is a difficult question but rests I think on the OL & that's not real repairable at this point in the season -- maybe better O line coaching?

     

    Teams take away our long ball and force us to beat them underneath but that requires us to "matriculate" the ball downfield.  To do that the team needs consistently to excute and it doesn't do that.  It all starts with the OL: penalties, inability consistently to run the ball (which is mostly the fault of the OL -- RBs can't run through holes that aren't there).

     

    Inability to run the ball  means the DL can focus on rushing the passer which leads to occasional breakdowns in pass protection and that causes our drives to fall short.

     

    Lastly I raise a question about Josh's ball placement on his short passes to the flat.  He tends to throw behind the receiver who then must turn his back to the D to make the reception.  This gives the D more time to recover & limit the yardage.  Are QBs taught to throw behind the receiver on these plays or is this just Josh?

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  5. I agree that our D played well against the run except on two occasions:

     

    1. The 62 yard TD run

    2. The Pats 14 play drive at the end of the 3d quarter.  This not only gave them 3 points (at the beginning of the 4th quarter) but denied our offense a chance to play with the wind at the end of the quarter.

     

    Both of these lapses were crucial (though not the only significant cause) of our loss.

  6. Last year the O was successful because it got many explosive plays.

     

    This year teams are playing us with 2 deep safeties to limit explosive plays.

     

    By taking away the deep and some intermediate throws Bills are forced to reply on short passes and the occasional run to work downfield.

     

    That can take 10-12 plays to score. To do that you need to execute consistently and the Bills are not close to doing that.  On many plays there is poor execution from the OL to the WRs dropping balls forcing a punt.

  7. I thought Warner's analysis of each play was good.  BUT he's looking at an overhead all-22 view & likely takes more than 3 secs to devise his analysis.

     

    It's very different on field.

     

    That said I think Josh does hold on to the ball too long.

     

    I've wondered why other teams often get 5 yards on a safety valve pass to the flat while we get only 1-2 yards.  It may be that Josh holds the ball too long, lofts the ball too high or doesn't place the ball well.

     

    On a related note, do the Bills run many timed passing routes?  WR takes a predetermined no. of steps, turns and the balls right there.  If not, why not?

  8. I tend to agree with what has been said about about the backside LG & LT.

     

    The OL can't allow penetration on the backside.  The outside zone is designed to get the DL moving laterally one way.  The RB starts in that direction & then cuts back away from the DL movement.  In the clip the Jags Rt DT is lined up in a 3 technique (outside LG's shoulder) and penetrates almost untouched.  The LG should have chipped him to enable Dawkins to get a piece of the DT and drive him to the left of the screen so Singletary could cut back screen right.

     

    A good example of poor OL play on our part.  As for Singletary, he doesn't have anywhere to run on this play.

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  9. Cover 1 does a very good job of analyzing why our offense was held scoreless for almost 3 quarters.

     

    The primary reason was the OL performance.  On too many plays they weren't able to handle the rush.  That rush was well designed: show 5-6 guys on the D line & then have one not rush while another rushed from the opposite side.  The OL also had problems with stunts & bull rushes up the middle.

     

    When Josh had a clean pocket or was able to escape the pocket he was able to complete throws.  The problem with an offense that steadily moves down the field is that you need to be able to make plays consistently.  The Bills' OL wasn't able to do that

     

    Once the defense gets into the QB's head bad things happen.  Even the GOAT Brady gets rattled if you get in his face.

     

    We better prepare for what the Jags did on D because we'll be seeing a lot of it as the season progresses.

     

    Oh well.  On to the Jets.  Let's hope this loss sobers up the offense

  10. 46 minutes ago, Italian Bills said:

    Exactly.. another issue is the very few play action this offense does. Why ? Maybe having a very bad OL like we do, the best thing would be to use our backs together like blockers to give Allen more time. 

    How about QB run-pass option.

     

    Josh reads the LB as he fakes a run.  If the LB comes up he throws the slant behind the LB.  If the LB plays pass Josh runs it

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  11. The next season we went 9-4-1 and lost to the Chiefs in the AFL Championship game.

     

    Had we won that game we would have played against Lombardi's Packers in the inaugural AFL-NFL Championship game (later renamed the Superbowl).

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  12. On 10/19/2021 at 7:02 PM, WhoTom said:

    One point about the 4th-and-1 play call: McD said Josh made the decision to change from whatever play Daboll called and sneak it instead. They gave him the authority to do so.

    This is consistent with my view expressed in other threads that the called play was for Josh to take it off left tackle but on seeing the crashing outside LB decided to sneak it instead.

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