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Old Coot

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  1. 1 hour ago, HoofHearted said:

    From a purely statistical standpoint I'd really like to see the numbers for play action compared to rpo numbers. I've seen what they look like for teams I've been involved with and I think they'd really be eye opening for fans. RPOs are the closest thing we have to out-right cheating in football lol.

    Perhaps this is because in play action with the QB under center the QB dropping back must turn his back to the D so that the play looks like a running play. He then fakes a handoff to the RB then pulls up and looks to see who is open because a D player got sucked in thinking it was a run. If the QB glances back at the D while retreating from under center, he gives away that it's really a pass play.  The in the play action pass, tehre is no option. The play is pass all the way but designed to fool the D by looking like a run.

     

    The RPO is a true option; it may be a pass or a run depending on how the D reacts. In an RPO, the QB in shotgun or pistol can focus on the conflict defender and, according to what the defender does, pass or run; that is, if the defender plays pass the RB keeps and runs and if the defender plays run the QB can pass. With Josh, the RPO has the option for Josh to keep and run.

     

    Is this analysis correct?

  2. The Bills had some success with condensed formations last year. It's not something you can use all the time but it allowed us to run the ball effectively up the middle. It can also get receivers into space. The outside receivers can run to grass outside and that can open up the middle.

     

    For those not familiar with condensed formations there are several Youtube videos explaining the concept. Here is one:

     

    Here is an explanation you can read:

     

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/02/07/why-the-49ers-use-this-type-of-formation-more-than-anyone/

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  3. Belichick's dad Steve wrote a book on scouting old school. I've often wondered whether Belichick's ability to draft well (mostly at the end of the various rounds) for so long (for example, Brady and Edleman not drafted until round six) and his ability to trade vets just at the cusp of their future decline was learned at the feet of his dad and honed by Belichick's experience on the coaching side of the NFL.

  4. 1 hour ago, Old Coot said:

    I'll add that Buffalo is the biggest small town I have ever known.

    This was meant as a tribute to Buffalo and the people of WNY but when I said solid small town values some might have thought I meant narrow-minded people. No, I meant the positive small town values of neighbors looking out for neighbors, helping out one another, saying "hi" to a stranger you pass on the sidewalk and more.

     

    WNY was a great place to grow up and I did not appreciate that until I moved away.

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  5. I don't think that Shaw66 is saying that the WR position is decreasing in importance as has been the case with the RB position.

     

    I think he's saying that the gap between stud WRs and pretty good WRs has decreased as has been the case with RBs.  I remember seeing Jim Brown play. He was huge compared to the men he was playing against.

     

    He's right about that partly because the physical attributes of the pretty good WRs has increased.

     

    I think it's also because of rules changes over the years that have favored the passing aspect of the game.  Everything from hands off the receiver to not taking the hear off a crossing receiver to not mussing the QBs hair have enhanced the passing game. Thta means a pretty good receiver can occasionally perform as a stud.

     

    There is the ability to scheme open a pretty good receiver. Many of Belichick's Patriot teams did not have stud receivers but Belichick was able to scheme open his guys.

     

    So I think that Shaw66 is essentially correct that a room full of pretty good receivers might be just as good as having one stud receiver.

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  6. MVS would have an insider's knowledge of the Chief's scheming, coaching, etc.

     

    My questions:

    How much insider's knowledge is a player expected to give up to his new team?

    Is this context dependent, for example, on the player or how he left his old team? 

    Does it really matter since the old team must assume that such knowledge has been given up and act accordingly?

  7. I voted Front Office but I'd really liked to have been a player but then I don't want to be a physical wreck by age 40.

     

    Those guys really do sacrifice their bodies. Remember Eral Campbell, the Oilers' monster running back? He ran over not around people.

     

    I don't think he was ever seriously injured in his playing days but by age 45 he was a physical wreck. He uses a wheelchair now.

     

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  8. Thanks for the Year of the Rams video. It brings back memories. I was a Colts fan (Baltimore, that is) and those Colts-Rams games were titanic.

     

    The Rams had the best D line in the league: The "Fearsome Foursome": Roger Brown, Lamar Lundy, Merlin Olsen (HOF), and Deacon Jones (HOF).

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  9. On 4/11/2024 at 4:55 AM, Ayjent said:

    It was all there if you watched the games. He played well against a couple of good WRs and teams fell in love with what he could be instead of what he was.  Terrible tackler, inconsistent in coverage, capable of getting completely lost in scheme.  I thought he was being overvalued a lot in pre draft and was absolutely shocked when Bills took him. I watch all UF games and I wasn’t a fan of his game.  I had hope that maybe it was just Mullen’s terrible staff that was the issue and talked myself into the pick trusting Beane.  He played decent in yr 1 at times, but the chance he develops is slim at this point.  Maybe it was hubris with the Bills staff and FO.  There just isn’t much of a place for him other than outside CB and the Bills don’t trust him there. 

    This makes it even more puzzling as to why the Bills would make him a first round draft pick. I admit that I'm a McDermott homie but I'll bet Beane would not have drafted him in the 1st without strong McD support.

  10. A hell of a running back but a deeply flawed human being.

     

    He's number 8 on the list of most rushing yards in a season but all the guys above him did it in 16 games. He ran for 2003 yards in 14 games.

     

    For comparison, Eric Dickerson holds the rushing title at 2105 yards in 16 games. That's an average of about 130 yards per game. Very good but OJ's average was 143 yards per game. And he did it on a mediocre team when the D knew they'd hand the ball to him.

     

    Props to his O line -- the Electric Company -- because they would turn on the Juice:

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Company_(football)

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  11. The guy does well in straight man coverage but he screws up in zone and when he has to make adjustments.

     

    Maybe he'll eventually learn but at this point he'd only have value to a team that plays straight man as a base D.

     

    This is the NFL so I doubt there are any teams that do that.

     

    He wasn't a first round pick. What mystifies me is why his shortcomings weren't apparent from film or scouting.  Any thoughts?

     

     

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