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2 minutes ago, Doc said:
How about 54?
Primus sucks.
2 terrific additions to the conversation, thanks.
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1 minute ago, Blokestradamus said:
I'm shocked she knows who Linvoy is.
Nope. It was a Les Claypool reference. (Les Claypool is the lead singer & Bassist for the band Primus, for those who may not know).
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1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Claypool ?!!!
and such easy Deadpool marketing too (patent pending!). Of course since I like him, it’s guaranteed they won’t take him. ?
Mina Kimes tweeted "Primus Time" a few weeks back and it made me love her even more...
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18 minutes ago, ChattanoogaBills said:
Im definitely hoping we draft him in the 3rd or 4th round.
I just knew we traded up for DK last year.
I was sad it was for Ford instead.
He won't be there in the 3rd or 4th rd. May not even be there at 54. [edited draft pick brain fart]
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17 minutes ago, DFT said:
Agree with this. TE is on its own, one of the toughest positions to transition from college to the pros. The other... WR. I think a “move” role is the right way to go out of the gate, but a straight transition to TE has a better chance of ruining him as a prospect in either, in my opinion.
Absolutely. Don't give him a position, use him as a weapon.
The new NFL is all about mismatches and he's a walking mismatch especially with Smokey and Diggs stretching teams vertically.
I'll be happy with any of the big WRs but because of his upside, Claypool is the guy I WANT. (For the record, I was screaming at the top of my lungs for DK last year, that one turned out okay...)
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What do they have to do? Wait a year. I guarantee they'll have a 1st round pick next year...
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I won't at all be surprised if he's taken before we're on the clock. Pass rushers are one of the league's hottest commodities and this draft is very weak there... Anybody with any type of potential (see: Okwara) should see their stock rise because of it...
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3 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:
I agree we need more good offensive weapons. I agree we need to give Allen more receivers. Singletary is about #45 in receiving in 2019. It wasn't a strong suit in college and it was noted in draft publications. Of the top 5 running backs, three are good receivers. Swift, E-H and Dobbins (I'm pretty sure he is the third). This is a weapon that we haven't been using. Remember T.Thomas sneaking out of the backfield and taking a short pass and routinely getting a big chunk? 10-15 yards is the sweet one for Allen right now and several of these top RB's would be a mismatch with LB's in that area. It would also give fits the the defensive backfields. They have to cover the slot, they would like to double cover both wide outs and now they have to worry about a fast RB coming out of the backfield or being the hot read. I think this would really help the offense much more than a development OT or a rookie WR.
I don't think you're wrong, a pass-catching RB is certainly a weapon that we're missing.
I come at this purely from a value perspective. RBs are now a dime a dozen and there are quite a few in this draft who can catch the football in the later rounds (Gibson, Benjamin, Corbin, Robinson to name a few.......) Motor is talented enough to be our 75% back, no need to spend a top pick on a satellite back when the aforementioned can be had MUUUUCH later. How often are you going to get a guy at the end of 2, that should be in the 1st without major red flags?
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Why draft a wr? Man... lot's of reasons...
- No proven vet >6'0 (and that's being generous) -- while this draft is chalk full of talent, it's especially full of talent WITH SIZE
- Young QBs need weapons -- invest in your QB. Yes Diggs/Smokey/Beas are a solid trio, but as other's have mentioned, age is an issue with the latter two and injuries with the former two. Given that our QB has less than pinpoint accuracy, a bigger target could make for some easy completions and gained confidence with Josh.
- Historically great draft means the talent that we'll be looking at would likely be rated significantly higher in another year
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Needs elsewhere, yes, but what's the reality of what we'll be looking at with those needs?
- This is a garbage year for edge; RB is similarly deep but RBs are now undervalued and thus can be waited upon; OT will unlikely be off the board before we pick; CB would be the only other position I'd realistically consider in the 2nd
- New weapons = new attacks: with Smokey and Diggs we should be able to stretch the field vertical plenty, but by bringing in a different type of WR, we'll be able to add new approaches to the offense, stressing defenses more and finding more mismatches... each new way you can stress the defense gives every other approach an improved shot at success.
I'm all aboard the Claypool train at this point.
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Sean Lee ain't going anywhere (unless it's in a wheelchair).
But seriously, he's the heart and soul of that Dallas defense. They'll find other ways trim that massive amount of fat...
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While a bit of a hot-head, Jake was an emotional and on-field leader in his time at Oregon. The offense immediately suffered when he was out with injury.
He's the kind of guy you want on your team and hate on every other, as much as I think blocking TEs are a waste of a roster spot, he's a great kid and I hope this works out.
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I love that the same guys who are stoked about signing David Sills as a UDFA also feel completely confident in bashing the #64 overall pick in the draft.
Gonna be a loooot of silly takes in this discussion when we look back a few years from now...
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Getting Clowney would likely mean the end of Lawson or Murphy's time here, so you may as well include one of them in a deal with Houston...
Lawson, 3 & 5 for Clowney doesn't seem like horrible value for either side...
Outside of that or impending vet. cuts, I think the roster is fairly set...
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25 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:
I watched the Butler tape. Was not impressed. I was on Harry. Bellichek who hasn't been great at WR agrees though. I saw bits of AJ from the DK tape. I'll look at a game now, but I don't think his game is there. I DID see Taylor man handle Josh Allen and really everyone against him. We can disagree about if the tackle talent is better than the WR talent in this draft.
You and I aren't arguing about Taylor, that's somebody else...
Harry played well against a really bad Pac 12. Brown and DK played as well or better in a stellar SEC. I think that's the difference to me. My only issue is that you can't evaluate a guy in one or two words. I'm extremely confident that both Butler and DK will be good-great WRs in this league...
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1 minute ago, YattaOkasan said:
Yeah I think our assessment of the WR room is the same (not looking long term with any one but Cole really), but DK can't change directions/Butler has the drops/I didnt watch tape of AJ. Like I said I'm not sold on any of them. I think our OL room is only slightly better than our WR room so thats where my focus is with pick 2. Good discussion thanks!
That's fine, it doesn't seem like you've done a whole lot of research, I happen to think your opinions on the first two are incredibly incomplete and am not sure how you can be unsold on someone you know absolutely nothing about, but so as long as you're not Brandon Beane, you're certainly entitled to having less than a completely researched opinion.
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1 hour ago, R Y G A R said:
I think 50 would look cool on him.
Would also be roughly the amount in pounds he's giving up to the guy across the LOS! ?
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4 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:
I just don't see the talent now is all. I could live with it if they decide, but I dont trust anyone on the board really. With the tackle position I see lots of good.
I'm not sure what you mean by the risk (its a lower draft choice?, its still a 2nd rounder!).
I'm cool with your TE plan. I agree with no glaring holes, but I would use that to pick from what the draft is good at for the future. Feels as if you want to try to land a superstar skill position player. I think the most probable outcome in that scenario is our pick at the skill position isnt that good and we are in need of OL next year when the talent isnt there in the draft (cause we have so many short contracts to serviceable OL).
I'm ok with different approaches, but let me know if youre thinking something different.
DK, Butler and AJ Brown are all very talented WRs, regardless of class who would add to the talent in our locker room.
I've said this before but I'll repeat it, our WR corps consists of:
- Smokey Brown, who has bounced around and never really *made it* anywhere -- that's not all bad luck.
- Zay Jones, who's had half of a solid season and literally almost killed himself prior to that. Hopefully he turned the corner, but not a guy I'm counting as a rock solid producer for the next decade.
- Robert Foster, who went undrafted and had half a season of success (after getting cut by us -- one of the worst teams in the league last year, after seeing what he could do for 4 months...) Like Zay, hopefully something clicked and he's turned a corner, but it's just as likely that teams were disrespecting him/Allen and forcing them to beat them with the long ball.
- Cole Beasley -- good slot guy but he doesn't offer a ton in the way of dynamism or mismatches.
- Duke Williams -- the CFL is not the NFL and he's already flamed out once...
Not exactly a murderer's row... At this point everyone has their warts, but a good coach can find ways to win with the guys I mentioned above.
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1 minute ago, YattaOkasan said:
I'm waiting to use a lot draft capital on WR until next year. This year is serviceable and will be dependent on Josh Allen (same thoughts for RB). We could still use a late pick on a flyer, but next year is deep at the skill positions so thats when I would spend my draft capital.
I don't think we can afford to wait and give our franchise QB "serviceable"... The talent is there now, the risk has been removed, and we don't have any completely glaring holes elsewhere (aside from TE), but I addressed that too...
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45 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:
Based on the depth of the draft I think youre on it. We need someone to develop but I like the 2nd 4th we have to pick Crosby. I want the next 3 to be offense with a tackle and TE
If I had my way, we'd wait on TE and OT...
Take your alpha WR at 2 (DK, Butler, AJB in that order), get a TE at 3 (Sternberger, Oliver, Knox, Walling) and then you can take a developmental T (Edwards) and DE in the 4th.
Or for that matter, trade one of the 4s and maybe a 2020 3 or 4 for Solomon Thomas -- I like that solution even better.
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12 minutes ago, Yav said:
The problem is, people on this board latch on and flame people for being wrong all the time, they copy and paste things in their sigs and love to keep bringing it up. Had Harry not been drafted in the first round those same people would be on here flaming me.
I've been saying all along that Harry would be a first round pick and that DK wouldn't be picked in the first. Yes I also said Harry would be the first WR taken and honestly thought Baltimore was going to be team to select him. They went with a WR just not Harry. I stated multiple times Harry would not be there in the 2nd and he's not.
And just a personal suggestion -- anyone flaming anyone for something this petty, especially when its concerning something as random and unpredictable as the NFL draft should be roundly ignored, not catered to.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're a younger guy, but just know that I don't know one grown adult who would "flame you" for having an opinion on a college football player, and I certainly don't know one who would come back weeks later to gloat about something so arbitrary and random.Just food for thought.
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11 minutes ago, Yav said:
Sherman for one would toss DK on his keister and jamming doesn't require a physically imposing db, you can simply pop him quickly and a veteran DB and back pedal and get into position quick, and again timing is off and recovery isn't DK's strength as indicated by him struggling in the cone drill.
How does DK fit Allens strength? He can run in one direction and isn't a 50/50 guy. I like Allen but lets be honest he's not the most accurate passer and the Bills already have Brown (who is better than DK) and Foster for deep routes, so again, how does DK fit? The Bills could use a possession guy but they have the kid from the CFL and Jones is still on the team along with Beas. I'm not saying the WR core is set but lets not kid ourselves and act like DK is the perfect system guy for the Bills.
As for Harry, he does it all, he can go deep and runs all the routes along with the 50/50 catch and is willing to block. Harry can fit in many systems.
The cone drill evaluates 90+ degree movements at speed. Recovery is far closer measured by explosion: worth reading.
"D.K. Metcalf's 10-yard split of his 4.33-second 40-yard dash clocked in at 1.45 seconds. This is the fastest 10-split by any combine runner in my database (starting in 2003). For some context, this is faster than Julio Jones' 1.50 10-yard split and 4.42 second 40-yard dash and they are similar heights: Metcalf checked in at 6-3 3/8 and 228 pounds, while Jones was 6-2 3/4 and 220 pounds."
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DK would replace Zay in the offense. Zay +40 for 33 and maybe a 5th seems like pretty fair value to me.
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6 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said:
When has a team won a Superbowl with a superstar receiver? I promise it's better to have dominant offensive line play with competent receivers.
I think the "when has X ever won a super bowl" deal is really outplayed... Just a couple years ago it was always defense wins championships, and yet now there are 50 point per game offenses in the playoffs every year. The league is evolving into one of exploiting mismatches, regardless of position... DK -- especially with Josh Allen throwing to him, offers that.
6 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said:Don't sleep on Austin Bryant
Waaay later, sure.
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19 minutes ago, Lofton80 said:
Badobilz nailed it. I think they go after another defensive player. They love Jaylon Ferguson. I think he will be the pick if still there.
Legit question -- can you show me where you're seeing that they "love" Jaylon Ferguson?
Chase Claypool- I know you want to talk about him
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Well aware of the 54 thing, just a brain fart. I've been a Primus fan for 25+ years and have never heard "Primus Sucks" as a thing, so my bad there...