SirAndrew

I think that putting a specific price tag on this doesn’t work. It depends too much on each individual’s financial status, age, and level of greed. The real question should be, is there ANY amount of money you’d take for the Bills never win a Super Bowl? I love this team, but if your answer is no, you’re too insanely devoted imo.

I never changed the variable, I said “starting lineup” in my first post. My point is if the NFL drafted 14 Ohio State players, I think Ohio State might be able to beat a UFL team. That was the original topic. Some of those guys will be NFL starters, and the rest will be UFL level guys. The UFL doesn’t have any NFL starting caliber players, so why couldn’t OSU beat a UFL team? How is 82% of OSU’s starting lineup future salesmen if 14 guys got drafted this year? I don’t get your math, but I appreciate your take, I just disagree. This is a statistical extreme, that’s a good point, but I think it’s going to be common in the NIL world of college football. I’ve noticed the NFL draft increasingly dominated by several college teams.

14 Ohio State players were chosen in the 2025 draft alone, and that doesn’t include underclassmen on the 2024 roster who will declare in future years.

You’re right, but I said “starting lineup”. I think most guys in the starting lineup of elite teams at least get a chance in one of the various pro leagues. I wasn’t necessarily referring to the entire roster.

The starting lineups of elite college teams are definitely not 95% future salesmen. The majority of Ohio State starters are going to see the NFL in some capacity, and the rest will be in the CFL, or the UFL. I agree, a guy like Kyle McCord who couldn’t cut it at Ohio State in 2023 would probably be the best UFL QB. There are a lot of college teams that have better QB play than anyone in the UFL. NFL rosters often carry up to three QB’s. The NFL is taking most of the QB talent, that leaves the UFL with nothing at the position.

I agree about overpaying Cook, but I don’t love the way this situation has played out. We made the choice to move to a scheme that was more run heavy. Cook produced, and now we don’t want to pay him that amount. I think it would be a huge overpay, but the run heavy scheme would need to be thrown out without Cook. Additionally, this run heavy scheme means nothing if we can’t gain one yard on multiple occasions in a title game. Unfortunately, most fans prefer to blame Kincaid. We’re possibly in the Super Bowl if we knew how to pick up one yard.

Any of the Josh Allen era playoff losses. It’s just too fresh, and frustrating.

They’re fine anyways, they just move on to Yankees baseball, and will return when the Giants are good someday.

I think it was very much a regional and who you hang around with type thing. I wasn’t around then, but heard stories from parents. The 70’s were before the internet, and people lives were based on what others did in their social circle. I assume that created larger differences in the choices people made back then. I think community and ethnicity made a huge difference in the 70’s. My grandparents were from Buffalo, and you weren’t going to a wedding in most ethnic neighborhoods without alcohol being freely served. It’s very much part of German, Italian, and Eastern European culture. You could also get a really good deal on an open bar if you held a reception at a community/ethnic gathering spot. I think this might be why some people had that experience, especially growing up in northern/midwestern cities.

To be fair, if there’s no alcohol for religious/personal beliefs, chances are many attendees are probably on a similar page. I have people like that in my extended family. In certain parts of this country, alcohol isn’t part of every function, like it is in Buffalo or the Midwest. The drinkers in those crowds just hide a flask of whiskey in their pocket, I’ve seen it. With that said, I definitely want an open bar, and if money is the reason it’s not happening, you’re going to have bigger problems trying maintain a marriage then.

Yeah, my mother who’s in her late 60’s now, always thought cash bars were just the worst thing ever. Open bars must have been the norm from her experiences too.

Yeah, no one wants to watch a bunch of 180 pound guys and slow big guys playing pro football. Football needs guys who have the ultimate combination of speed and size.

Lzzy Hale might be the most talented hard rock female I’ve ever heard. She was awesome filling in for Skid Row, showing incredible vocal talent. She also sounds great on many Halestorm covers of hard rock as well. No disrespect to any Halestorm fans, I think they’re a good band, but sometimes I wish she had better original songs to showcase her talent. This is all subjective though, as I’m simply not a huge fan of many modern rock sounds.

I agree, Stevie Nicks is quite iconic, both with Fleetwood Mac and solo. She also never ruined her image trying to chase pop stardom like many others. Female rockstars are a tough subject. There are many talented ones, but if you draw the line at pop vs rock. I think there’s more talented female pop stars through the years than rock stars, same with country.

I often hear good things about Lewiston, but what is there to do? I’ll be in the area soon, and I’m looking for new things to do. I’ve never really gone up there, and I keep hearing it recommended, but I’m having trouble finding anything intriguing. I’d like to check out Old Fort Niagara, and I know the beach is decent, but just curious what the village has to offer?

It’s really cool to hear some stories of posters who became fans because of Allen. I think there’s many people who don’t post here that might never admit to not being fans before Allen. Buffalo always had a devoted Bills fanbase, but I think the fanbase outside of WNY has definitely increased. It seems that upstate NY is now Bills country. Fans always existed, but I’ve noticed the disappearance of Giants and Jets fans in upstate. I remember when Syracuse television networks would broadcast Giants and Jets over Bills games that occurred simultaneously.

I agree, as I got into my twenties, I began to feel less emotional about the game as well. I started to remind myself that win or lose, these guys could have more fun than I could dream of at that point in my life. So why should I sit at home upset about it myself?

I agree, I find less nostalgia than many here. However, I sometimes miss those early season games when it seemed like we might turn the corner. We’d get off to hot starts that made the playoffs seem possible, and that was exciting back then. The regular season now seems like a formality, because all I want is the Lombardi in Buffalo. I also miss the game day atmosphere from those days. Game day and tailgating had a fun Wild West feel, while celebrating with fellow diehards enduring the same drought. That’s where it ends for me. November and December were always terrible months. The games had already become meaningless, and I didn’t enjoy watching at that point. Fitz is a guy people are very nostalgic about, but in reality he played a few decent games with us each year, and the rest were dreadful. The on field product was never fun to watch during the drought, contrary to the misconception.

I’ve never been afraid of Baltimore regardless, because Jackson stinks in the playoffs.

If the Bills win a Super Bowl, it will feel like our football destiny has been fulfilled. The very thing I’ve dreamed about experiencing with family and even those I’ve lost would have finally arrived. It would be very easy for me to walk away from the NFL after that point. I’m still attached to the Bills, but the NFL doesn’t do much for me anymore. In fact I turn off most non Bills regular season games out of boredom.

The college football landscape is insane these days as well. If you have a spectacular season, you never know what you’re walking into the next year. The transfer portal chaos can change the composition of a team overnight. It would be easy for a QB to damage his draft value by returning after a good season.

I was less concerned about the guy himself, and more concerned about picturing myself sitting next to the average sized dude.

These seats confirm my greatest fear. I was hoping for a modern stadium with comfortable seats, a wide concourse, easily accessible bathrooms, and good concessions. If these seats are an indication, we might see more of a “basic model” stadium that doesn’t do much to upgrade the experience.

Fitz was better served as a placeholder QB before teams found their real franchise QB. He was fun to watch, but could be a turnover machine. It’s the exact opposite of what a Super Bowl contender needs out of a backup. Fitz could win games, but also lose them. I liked Fitz, but my unpopular belief has always been that Fitz didn’t play smart football in big moments. The guy didn’t know when to stop forcing the ball. That’s not what I want from a backup.

I never thought a grumpy 73 year old coach coming out of retirement to a mediocre college program would work. College is a completely different game, and Belichick wasn’t even a good NFL GM. I can’t see him becoming a good recruiter. In a strange way, these distractions will give him an excuse if he fails.