Buffalo Junction
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What could go wrong?
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Regardless of outcome this game is a good test for our offensive line. That eagles D has been bad and injury plagued, but their front four is still top notch. The eagles oline has some talent as well. I want to see how this Bills team performs in the trenches, especially after that Miami game. Winning the LoS on both sides of the ball will make a statement that this Bills team can win late season games.
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12 minutes ago, SoTier said:
I think that the real problem with picking QBs is that the evaluators seem to put way too much emphasis on arm strength and size to the neglect of other qualities that are much more important to NFL success. I think the most glaring -- and embarrassing -- example is the prejudice against shorter QBs. Two of the very best NFL QBs in the NFL -- Drew Brees and Russell Wilson -- weren't drafted in the first round because they were considered "too short". One of the biggest busts in NFL history was overall first draft pick in the 2007 draft, 6 foot, 6 inch JaMarcus Russell.
The real key to a QB's success is what's between his ears. There are lots of tall QBs. There are lots of big throwers. There are lots of athletic runners. What there's not a lot of is guys who can almost instantly assess what they see on the football field, make the right decision of about how to react to that situation, and then execute whatever action they need to do to be successful. NFL professionals don't seem to be able to identify collegiate QB with these abilities with any kind of consistency, which is why selecting QBs seems to be such a hit or miss proposition.
I think part of the issue with identifying intangibles is that many of these QBs are in winning programs and surrounded by superior talent. It’s relatively easy to identify a target when you have 1-2 reads and each involves a future NFL WR facing a CB that isn’t getting into the league. Alabama aside, most teams only have a few players a year that will get a legit NFL shot. Couple that with schemes and it becomes difficult to judge. As much as we can say Tua is going to be the #1 QB, we cannot say with certainty that he will be the best NFL QB from his draft.
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2 hours ago, SoTier said:
The success or failure of any offensive (or defensive) system usually depends upon the pieces that the OC (or DC) has to work into that system. I think that in Roman's case, neither Kaepernick nor Taylor were good enough to sustain it.
For sure. It’s one of the reasons why Baltimore’s offense and Jackson’s development are intriguing to me. We likely won’t know for another 2-3 years. Of course, the inverse also applies... have defenses had the right type of talent to effectively scheme against Jackson and Roman yet? Lynn certainly figured the scheme out last year and ran that 3 safety nickel in the playoffs with a DB spy on Jackson. Gonna be fun to see what NE does. That offense gets to face the current top three defenses down the stretch... which is a pretty good barometer.
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5 hours ago, Circlethewagon8404 said:
In this league, every player is on the market if the price is right. It doesn't matter how many times we hear that a team won't trade a player, if the price is right, that team will make a move.
Exception being prime years HOF level QBs. No way a GM isn’t drawn and quartered in the street by fans without getting at least six 1st round picks, and even then he’s gonna have to check for car bombs.
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6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Only if he hits the Juggs more
Nah. Just tie him to the goal post and have Allen nail him with a fastball from goal line once for every drop on Sunday.
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1 minute ago, row_33 said:
crutches are handy as well, not sure about your second option, they do have a holding cell on the premises for the less than respectful patrons of a sporting contest
Eagles fans always seem to one up previous shenanigans. After one ate horse poo my suggestion seemed like a logical “progression”. ?♂️
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8 minutes ago, timekills17 said:
How the hell are the Patriots at the bottom of the pass block list AND the bottom of the pass rush win list?
Free rushers don’t count?
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8 minutes ago, row_33 said:
that's a fanbase that won't have a meltdown if they boo the team when it plays like trash
Nope. They’ll throw D batteries and give analingus to a horse to enhance the theatrical jeering.
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2 hours ago, billybob71 said:
This is exactly how i feel you gotta let the kid play and learn. Coach him up during the week but on Sunday the QB should be in control of the offense not a guy on the sideline. Let him fail at times in order to learn and come back more prepared and dont take away his natural ability and stifle his creativity. But coaches are on such a short leash and quickly on the hot seat and fans have zero patience to let a guy take his lumps everything is now now now in our society its just the way it is. I actually think the Bills are doing a pretty good job walking this fine line with Allen. Not over coaching just trying to refine whats already there and give him freedom to audible and make him read defenses, dont be so afraid to fail that you play scared with zero aggression, we have all seen this approach way to many times since Kelly.
I feel like McD ended up with the perfect situation to let things evolve naturally. Rex disaster, cap dump, break the drought with deficient talent, QB injuries, start the rawest rookie the league has seen. Now they’re 5-1 on the backs of a great defense and young QB who will drive you crazy for 3 then show up with a box of chocolates in the 4th. They grabbed the right QB for this city. This fan base would be eating Mayfield or Rosen alive due to their pre-draft cockiness.
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2 hours ago, H2o said:
I have been very reluctant to recognize Goff as one of the top young QB's in this league for the fact that McVay is the brains behind the operation. I think that the blueprint provided by a BB understudy like Patricia has pretty much sealed that team's fate. Couple that with an aging, suspect OL, and Todd Gurley's rapid decline leave you with what you see this year. Now if Goff can become self-sufficient, making the adjustments, reads, and checks at the line himself then things may be different down the road. Many times he looks like a deer in the headlights out there. He just got paid a ton of money by LA though for basically being a puppet. I love what I have seen from Josh this year, despite the mistakes made, and see true growth in our young QB. One would be a fool to say that they haven't seen improvement in Jackson as well, even though I worry about him reverting to his old ways the further we get into the season. Right now he and Josh are looking like the top two QB's from last year's draft with Mayfield taking a step back and Darnold looking like the same player from his Junior year at USC.
In this day and age no one is going to sit a QB for multiple years ala Aaron Rodgers. Front office and coaching leashes are much shorter now than they used to be before. Every regime that comes in wants their guy at the helm and they basically sink or swim from that. See Kingsbury and the Arizona Cardinals. You have to build around your young QB. You have to put them in situations to succeed. You have to play off of his strengths and hopefully build until the weaknesses are no longer that. Outside of Daboll calling in a few head scratchers at times, I feel that is exactly what we are doing with Josh and you can see the improvement from year one to year two. I see improvement in the same manner with Lamar, though him running as much as he does and coming back to earth since the Miami game make me wonder if it is sustainable. Even Vick, who was built like a RB, started coming up with injuries due to that playing style. But what can you do if you are Baltimore? You work with him to continue to make him better, but you have to let him do what he does out there on the field.
Another thing to consider when looking at today's QB's is the college game itself. It's mainly Spread formations, RPO, a lot of dual threat QB's, and not really much traditional QB play anymore. Where a QB has 5 to 7 seconds at times in college to read a defense, and allow things to open up, you only have 3 in the NFL for the most part on any given play. Where guys in college can wait for their guy to come open so they can throw the ball, now they are forced to read where the man will be open and throw with anticipation. Many of these young QB's have a hard time with that, processing the information from pre-snap to the release of the pass. All of the greats have had the mental aptitude to succeed in the game. Brady, Manning, Brees, Marino, Kelly, Montana, Rodgers, Steve Young, Ben Ro, Favre, Rivers, and the rest are/were very cerebral in their approach processing what they see on the field quickly. With the way college offenses are run these days there aren't many who are developed for those 3 or 4 years in this regard in the college game.
Rodgers was a unicorn. I can’t recall another time when a team with a HOF QB had a possible #1 overall QB slide into the 20’s and become available. Barring a horrible bowl game injury to a highly touted draft prospect it’s unlikely to ever happen again.
This team seems to be walking the fine line with Allen; giving him everything he can handle slowly expanding the playbook and schemes week to week. I keep thinking about Daboll mentioning how the Pats offense works. How they don’t run many new schemes late in the year, but rather recycle things that have worked previously. We’ll see how this develops (pun intended) over time.
Jackson is interesting as well. The Ravens seem to be all in on fully exploiting his running talents while slowly increasing the passing scheme complexity. It appears that their approach is to let Jackson ball out on the run to stress defenses early in his career while gaining experience and recognition with the hope that he ultimately develops into a solid pocket passer before the rookie contract is up. My big question there is “will the league figure out Roman’s system again?” His passing schemes aren’t anywhere near his running schemes and every QB he’s coached seems to peak in year 2 or 3: Kaep, Taylor....
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3 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said:
Most fans probably thought Beasley to be the answer here... a smaller, shiftier guy with crisp route running and movement in the slot. But, one has to start wondering about his ability to rise to the occasion in big moments. He's seemingly dropped the ball a few times at crucial points.
Lacking in rhythm.
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36 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said:
This whole thing really seemed to gain momentum with all of Buddy Nix's talk about wanting to acquire a guy who is "open even when he's not open." Perhaps Chan having coached Calvin Johnson in college also made this a larger focus. But the fact remains not every team can have a BIG JOHNSON type receiver.
At this point I think most fans would settle for a motion of the ocean WR if it results in celebrations.
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4 hours ago, HOUSE said:
Rex Ryan once saw a rule book but the pages were moldy
He would have read the book if it was athletes foot.
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This game is making the Dallas and Philly games look easier.
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52 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Those 2 are long gone and not replaced still.
I’m aware of that. My point was that trading arguably their two best offensive players the week of game 1 likely influenced that teams performance. It definitely incited trade demands from other players, tanking talk, etc. Expecting that team to give top effort immediately afterwards is a stretch at the least.
I’m not saying the Dolphins are a good team, and I’m not saying the Bills played well yesterday. I’m simply stating that the week 1 Fitz start isn’t indicative of how they’re going to play with Fitz starting from here on out. As a whole that team looked apathetic and lost week 1. The dolphins team we saw yesterday came out punching, and didn’t get put in it’s place until the 4th quarter.
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11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Ravens demolished the Fitzy Fins 59-10Week 1 after they just traded Tunsil and Stills rearranging their offense. The Ravens also rolled out an offensive scheme that wasn’t on tape yet, which is why it’s generally wise to take week 1 results with a grain of salt. Fitzmagic or Fitztragic plays a role as well.
That said, this team has been playing to the level of competition every week. It’s concerning, but it’s the hallmark of young and/ inexperienced teams. It was something I expected going into the season (didn’t see 5-1 coming), but it needs to get rectified as that’s the difference between good teams and great teams.
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Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:
?♂️ At the end of the day we overcame whatever shortcomings were perceived or created. As long as Allen is learning and the O is Gelling I'm not going to get too worked up about it.
Neither am I. The kid keeps eliminating weaknesses in his game, and I honestly thought he’d be getting his first start now instead of his 17th.
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3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
It definitely could have been worse, but I think some of the misdirection actually threw off our timing and disrupted overall production.
Probably. That’s the type of stuff that likely will get sorted as Allen gains more experience and the line plays together more.
I wasn’t a huge fan of Spain missing A gap blitzes, and I assume some of those play calls are designed so Allen and Morse can change protections, etc.
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17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
Yea he is physically probably the least athletic and imposing outside CB In the league. He isn't fast and he is skinny so from physical standpoints his game has weakness you can attack
But he is a smart player who seems to recognize his limitations and can mask them
And if Fitztragic had had started the game instead of Fitzmagic I think one of those early passes could have been picked. I watched the game with a bunch of friends and was amazed that they’d forgotten what “good Fitz” can do. The guy drops dimes when he’s in the zone.... until he isn’t.
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1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
In the first half I was having flashbacks to 'bad' Roman. I get that motions and gadgets can be handy, but they should never be the meat & potatoes of your plan.
I think some of those motions were inserted to help Allen recognize coverages and the gadgets may have been added to keep those from being predictable. At least none of them got blown up like the fish’s Gadget pass.
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1 minute ago, gobills1212 said:
Do you not watch the NFL outside of Bills games?
I mean no offence, but around the league there is an epidemic of substandard QBing. Combined with how week to week this league has become (anointing someone a future HOFer one week, calling them trash the next) the coveted Franchise Quarterback is few and far between.
Long gone are the days where a qb was given YEARS to settle in before a decision can be made about their future but it doesn't change the fact that these guys still need to learn. Im concerned the growing contingent of fans who compare their young QB to the Mahomes type may never be able to enjoy a nfl game again because if thats the expectation- they will no doubt be let down.
Your 'favorite' team is 5-1. They are winning WHILE their young QB is developing. At somepoint in the future a decision will need to be made, but there are so many factors at play here these cats calling for a new QB because they have already made up their minds about this one has me embarrassed for them. Im sorry you feel dissapointed Miami wasnt thrashed yesterday.... but this crap about doubting your qb is insane. Meanwhile, if next week he lights it up the flip flop will begin and the bandwagon fills back up. I guess i give you credit for having the balls to put this out there given how silly it truly is, but at the same time im worried you dont understand what a over reaction it is and it may just be pure ignorance. The sky is not falling yet. Keep this to the nonsense with the game threads. Your team is 5-1. Id hate to see you when faced with a REAL problem.
Yeah, but Rodgers has a perfect game yesterday and that’s josh’s new standard. ?♂️
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3 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:
I actually like what they're doing with Allen. I think that how they're developing him will pay dividends down the line. It looks to me like they are trying to rein in his hero ball and turn him into a passer. There will be growing pains but he's young and they're still winning.
He and Lamar are both physically gifted but I think Lamar is getting the exact opposite treatment. The Ravens seem to have taken the approach of letting him just play his game. They want to win now and don't seem to be worrying about the future which is not surprising seeing as how there'd been talk of Harbaugh needing to win or he would be out. If Lamar ever loses his ability to make plays with his legs, he'd be unprepared to play QB at a high level. I think the way their developing Allen is to make sure he can succeed if his legs become a non factor.
Everyone, ESPN included, seems to be forgetting the Greg Roman effect with running QBs. That’s making a huge difference in Jackson’s performance running the ball. The kid is gifted, but eventually Romans schemes get figured out. I believe it’s 2-3 years. Lynn found a working game plan in his second game against the Ravens last season. BB will have a gameplan for it as well. I’m curious about how Jackson will perform with a different OC there.
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6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
Tre is hands down playing at an all pro level this season
Lock him up because he shuts down a third of the field for a good portion of games
Exactly. It’s going to cause Wallace to look bad at times as teams will put their #1 WRs on his side to try and win on a physical mismatch. The kid isn’t particularly fast or strong. However, he’s smart and plays like a dog. I’m okay with that side of the field giving up some first downs if Wallace isn’t giving up any big plays. I’m sure he’s coached to do so.
Defending the two Eagles TEs and the Run game without potentially Milano and Thompson?
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From that one article last year it certainly seemed like he was all about austerity.