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Just now, NewDayBills said:
We are 100% on the same page. I don't think Edmunds is a bad player though, just out of position. Wouldn't mind that kid from LSU with that 1st pick.
Well my whole point is that I haven’t been very encouraged by Edmunds, especially when you see our stud MLB getting blocked 8 yards downfield like he was on Sunday.
Its disappointing because trading up for him last year was supposed to solidify the position for years to come. I think his success is as in question, as Allen.
I also don’t think we can afford to use our 1st round pick on a LB when there are so many pressing needs on offense
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1 minute ago, timtebow15 said:
I would never predict that because they can't fix the offense in one offseason. Next year I'd go with 7-9.
The Rams and Bears would beg to differ
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There were much worse culprits than Allen yesterday. He continues to be the best player they have on offense. He did commit two bad INT’s, but you really can’t fault him.
Also, I stand my claim that if Foster actually catches that long pass for a TD it’s a completely different game.
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32 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:
This. Preston brown is weak as can be
Careful.....Josh Allen has taken a few cheap shots against NYJ (thought not as bad as Tre’s) and no players came to his defense. You can’t fault a player for not retaliating, there were also 9 other guys on the field who did nothing after as well
3 hours ago, NewDayBills said:I mean, I agree with you and all and you're absolutely right to be troubled about MLB, I am too. Brown though won't fix our problem though bud.
Ok maybe not Preston, but a player in a similar situation. I just don’t feel so great about Edmunds and think the Bills need a legit Plan B if he continues to not pan out. A player like Julian Stanford was signed to play ST’s.
You cant really rely on him on defense and we saw that this season.
I also don’t think a mid to low round draft pick would do much. We need someone with decent NFL starting experience for depth that could be relied upon if necessary.
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Glad you mentioned Edmunds. I thought he was just terrible. Corey Thompson was terrible on the edge so Edmunds seems to get lost in the shuffle, but he is a pretty bad MLB.
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57 minutes ago, junior12thman92 said:
Can't imagine he left on the best of terms if he's publicly saying stuff like this. I wouldn't plan on him being in a Bills uni in 2019.
Again, this is hardly the worst thing anyone has said. People seem to be reaching to make something out of nothing
2 hours ago, Billever76 said:As evidenced by our dead last field position....we have gave the opposing team great field position the entire year sans a few games...that's a skewed stat imo.....ppg sacks tfl all matter more ...we haven't gave up a ton of yards but we've given up points..some of that falls on an inept offense butlets not act like we haven't watched QBs sit back in the pocket with tons of time or rbs gashing us all game long with not an answer to it ..#1 defense don't give that up...
I knew people would hate this idea because Preston is a former Bill. But this idea makes sense if you read what I originally wrote.
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23 minutes ago, pop gun said:
No, this infatuation with wanting to bring former Bills back is insanity.
Not really... I see a player who could be productive and a rookie MLB who is pretty underwhelming.
If it’s not Brown, I would take a similar veteran MLB who could be reliable depth/fringe starter.
IMO many fans overvalue what they have in Edmunds. I don’t think he’s very good
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10 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:
I actually think we are better against the run with Edmunds
Numbers say otherwise
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13 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
There's no way Crossman and Castillo both don't get fired. Run blocking has been embarrassing all year as has ST play. Guys like Culley & Robiskie are on the bubble.
Why Culley and Robiske? If anything Allen seemed to make progress throughout the year and Robiske seemed to do the best he could with limited talent.
I would be fine if they did get rid of them but I’m not seeing as much of a compelling case.
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11 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
Thanks for posting the stats. After seeing how much traction this thread is getting I wanted to do the same.
Edmunds has a lot of learning to do but some of the "end of the world'ers" act like he's Venus De Milo.
A smart Beane will get a competent backup to replace Stanford.
Some people around here need to breathe.
Right but people here also sound like it’s a guarantee Edmunds will be good. It’s far from a sure thing, and I’m concerned after seeing what appears to be a lack of progress over the course of the year.
One thing that Edmunds has that the other don’t is better physical skills and a younger age. Again, people use his age as an excuse for poor play but it definitely is a factor. We’ll just have to hope for the best but I’m concerned about this position
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Sounds like the perfect type of character this organization is looking for ????
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7 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
He's a turncoat. No interest in signing someone who sleeps with my enemies.
He didn’t sleep with the enemy! He only talked about doing it ???
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45 minutes ago, The Red King said:
It's easy to be discouraged after yesterday, but it's worse when you think of how many points the Bills left out on the field. How much better would Allen's stats have looked had the sun not broken up that perfectly thrown long ball? That's 7. We missed a field goal, and didn't try another shortly after thanks to an injured kicker. 6 more there. Fumble at the NE 5 prevented what would have been another 3-7. In total, just that small number of plays cost us 16-20 points. We only scored 12.
Now, I'm not saying we would have won. Obviously, NE would have played differently were the game closer. But, we would have been more competative. All teams have rough breaks, and it wouldn't have been unusual to have one of the above happen, but all of them? What I wonder is, can we fix those intangibles? I'm not worried about Haush. Offseason to heal and he should be back in buisness. We need playmakers on offense, specifically receivers. Other teams, you look and say "Holy crap! How did he catch that?". Us, it's "Holy crap, how did he drop that?". It seems like where other receivers bail out their QB at times, Allen has to hit his in the numbers to even have a chance.
It just struck me as odd, how the smallest number of plays had such a drastic effect on Buffalo's scoring, and how we might be closer to NE then we showed.
People here are quick to dismiss your topic, but you raise some excellent points. There were opportunities to make plays - specifically as skill positions and the Bills talent let them down. 1 or 2 of their moments you referenced make it a game changer.
I really think it’s a different and if Foster is able to catch the bomb from Allen. It would dictate a change in coverage for NE.
Overall the game highlighted what we all ready know....The Bills need to get some
help for Allen in 2019
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Just now, NewDayBills said:
Yep. No way in hell I want him back if I'm Terry.
I guess - he was hoping to get signed by a Super Bowl contender. I don’t think it’s anything too crazy
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2 minutes ago, White Linen said:
We don't have enough impact players on defense. He isn't one, so I'm not interested.
Again, we’re talking about a veteran depth player with proven experience in the role. You can’t have an entire roster of impact players.
Just now, NewDayBills said:I'm ok with Stanford as a backup. Need to draft somebody, it's definitely a glaring weakness. I think Brown would provide a false sense of security, he is a backup in this league.
Exactly! That’s why they should sign him as a backup!!!!!
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9 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
I don't remember it word for word but he essentially said he'd rather play for the Patriots. Only problem is he wasn't good enough to crack their roster. Brown is a big slow LB coming off a knee injury, no thx. I'm definitely onboard with drafting one very high though.
I think this is what you were referring to. He was angling to play for New England. It’s pretty sad, but he didn’t really say anything negative about the Bills.
Also laughable how he was talking about getting paid $8M A season. He got half that on a 1 year deal
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3 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
I don't remember it word for word but he essentially said he'd rather play for the Patriots. Only problem is he wasn't good enough to crack their roster. Brown is a big slow LB coming off a knee injury, no thx. I'm definitely onboard with drafting one very high though.
You make it sound like he’s a Brandon Spikes type LB. He’s certainly not blazing fast but he’s adequate enough to be a backup LB.
Also, slow or not - Brown is much better against the run than Edmunds has been.
Let me ask you this - are you more comfortable with Julian Stanford than Preston Brown? Remember this idea is based on the premise that he would be a backup, not a starter.
Just now, Rico said:This is the NFL, not baseball.
Ok well either way - Brown was more productive in the same defense than Edmunds. Does Edmunds have better skills and athleticism? Absolutely, but there is no guarantee he’ll ever reach his potential
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5 minutes ago, Logic said:
I find it unlikely that the Bills would achieve the #1 pass defense in the NFL and hold multiple quality passers under 180 yards passing with a middle linebacker who is bad at pass defense.
Can he improve? Absolutely. Is he perfect? Certainly not.
To say he has "not been good in coverage" overall because he has been beat at times is inaccurate.He has bit on many fakes and has been behind on coverage at times. He’s been overall decent in coverage.
i stand by my original statement, he has been dreadful in run support
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9 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
He burned his bridges down on the way out.
Explain how he did this?
Also, remember I’m advocating signing him as a depth MLB. Like I said, I think he is an improvement over Standford even with his injury recovery.
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1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I can't stand Kraft but he's got 5 rings and has had 3 head coaches during his tenure and all are HOF'ers who had or went on to won SB rings as HC's in the NFL.
He's been a good owner to say the least.
The Bills have never even had a HC who won a SB elsewhere as a HC let alone here.
I hope his son has a miserable run taking over but the reality is that he has just as good of a shot of having a good run or a bad one............the years of success don't come with an automatic setback.........if they hire well they have the same chance as any team going forward.
Right but remember a lot of that was because of the old owner who was very stubborn and particular with who he would
hire.
If the Bills needed a coach I don’t think Terry would hesitate to pay a good HC.
1 minute ago, KD in CA said:Yeah, the whole ‘anyone who isn’t Sean McVay is a dinosaur’ thing is getting old very quickly.
Harbaugh would be a terrific hire for the Jets.
Yeah I think so too, which is why I want hope it’s all BS but I doubt it
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Jets have denied it but there’s probably a lot of truth to the rumors.
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Just now, YoloinOhio said:
As a backup that would be ok. He wasn’t good in Cincy. I felt bad for him because after not being injury prone at all in Buffalo, he got hurt while on a small one year deal.
Yep in this scenario he’d be signed for depth. Still if feel much more confident in Brown at MLB than Julian stanford
2 minutes ago, Rico said:Another Whaley gem.
Look at Edmunds stats.... then look at Brown’s in 2017. Enough said
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I know some people will not be on board with this idea, that I know people will be against it but give it some though. I love the idea of the Bills re-signing Preston Brown to a 1 year deal.
Brown will be a FA with Cincinnati after signing a 1 year deal worth only $4M. He is coming off season ending knee surgery but previously he played just about every game as a starting LB in Buffalo.
Brown didn’t really get the attention in the open market which is why he signed a “prove it” deal. He’ll likely have to do the same next year and the Bills would be wise to offer a deal around or just under a few million.
Brown was a good starter for McDermott’s defense. He was willing to lose significant weight to become more mobile and less of a “thumper.” He was not always the best in coverage but was good enough in most cases.
I would sign Brown as a dependable backup at MLB. Keep in mind, a player like Edmunds has struggled all year long and struggled mightily yesterday against the run and pass. Brown would give the Bills insurance in those situations, he’d also be compentent enough at MLB to consider moving Edmunds to OLB if necessary. And he could play in the Nickel packages as well. The signing really gives the
Bills a lot of flexibility.
The other reason why I love the Brown signing is because he is everything at MLB that Edmunds is not... at least not yet. Brown was a pretty good run stuffer between the tackles. He’d take on blockers and get off blocks to make tackles. He read his keys, filled his lanes and didn’t shy away from contact. You didn’t see him get lost in coverage much because of mental errors. Edmunds isn’t at this point yet and yesterday was a prime example.
What Edmunds has that Brown never had or never will is some freakish athletic skills which will be perfect in pass defense. Imagine if part of Brown’s role was to be a “Derek Anderson” for Edmunds? He definitely could learn from Brown.
I would feel pretty good with this move.
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3 hours ago, NewDayBills said:
Problem is he is only 20 and he is playing the most intellectually demanding position on defense. He's going up against players that are more developed than him both physically and mentally. Maybe in the future he can be a MLB but honestly from a sheer physicality standpoint I don't think his skill set is suited for that spot, he's not instinctive enough. He is not a stuffer, he is better suited in coverage and maybe using his length to come off that edge, he would be a perfect replacement for LORAX.
I hear you man. But the problem is, even though he’s 20, I’m not seeing much incremental improvement week-to-week like I have been seeing with guys like Allen or even a Tauren Johnson before he was hurt.
He seems to be the same LB he was at the start of the season.
Brady says he plans to play in 2019 and beyond...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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He’s sticking to the same story he publicly stated years ago - he wants to keep playing until he’s 45.
It won’t happen. In fact, if he somehow wins the Super Bowl this year then you bet your ass he’s retiring. Either way, the end is near