Phil The Thrill
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44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Yes they do. They don’t get a kickback per se but they do it as a favor and then the team will then give them info to report first down the line. Rap sheet has Beane in his pocket btw. You can tell from the Melvin Gordon stuff. He also has the Chargers.
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Just now, oldmanfan said:
No. And I am sick and tired of the fake news crap.
So you think there is truth to this rumour? Miami is trading up for a tackle? Not a QB? -
I listed to an interview with Joe Marino who works at the Draft Network - which is pretty small time compared to national outlets. He claimed that he’s been approached by teams/agents to report the wrong information as a smokescreen.
Do you believe this is happening at the National level?
Take this tweet from Ian Rapoport. I believe that either Miami is trading up to take a QB (Tua or Herbert) or they are bluffing as a smokescreen so 1 of the 2 QB’s are left by the time they pick. The majority of people who replied to the tweet do as well.
Does anyone honestly believe they are trading up for a tackle? It seems unlikely and that Rapoport has been given fake news as strategy. So then why would be report this...
The question is does Rapoport:
a.) believe this rumor to be true
b.) know this rumor is likely false but is reporting it anyway for attention/engagement
c.) know the rumor is likely false but reporting fake as a favor for an agent/team
d.) getting a kickback to report fake news
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11 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
As I stated prior we do have a different opinion-I think you had a very unrealistic expectation of Sammy. He is less than I expected but a long way from a bust. Anyone who expects "a generational talent" is setting themselves up for a major disappointment.
You do a wonderful job making excuses for Sammy.How can you not hold him to that standard when your GM publicly used the term “generational talent” in nearly every media interview after making the trade?
Was it unreasonable? Maybe, but that was where the bar was set...not by the fan base....by the Buffalo Bills in 2014. He came nowhere close
What makes the selection more disappointing, is the fact that he was severely outperformed by many receivers drafted after him. Not just in Round 1 but in later rounds as well. I don’t feel that asking him to outperform the other WR’s in his class is unreasonable at all.
So happy to see AP writer John Wawarrow include the Sammy trade under the “worst” category in column. I know you love Sammy but this was a terrible move and he did not live up to his hype.
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57 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:
it makes me worried of what they may have lost in fracking and the current (and previously on-going) oil/energy price drop. If the bulk of their portfolio is now (and moving forward) the Bills and Sabres, then we are in for a world of hurt.
I don’t think it’s the Bills though. Thanks to NFL revenue sharing, it’s basically a license to print money. Especially when you are Market #31 and sharing profits from teams in major NFL cities
and a phattttt TV contract.As we’ve seen, I think that all of the other ancillary business are the ones that will unfortunately suffer. This includes the Sabres who don’t receive the same revenue as an NHL franchise.
To me, it seems that they are spread pretty thin. It would be best to sell off some of these and put all of their eggs in the basket that makes the most $$$ - the Bills!
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8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I have a kind of funny, tone-deaf, anecdotal story along those lines. When Hurricane Gustav was approaching in 2008 there was a great deal of panic. The city was evacuated and 3 years after Katrina everyone was extra-cautious. I remember we had a full staff meeting and George Shinn (the owner) was trying to drive home to everyone to take it seriously. He wanted people to evacuate sooner rather than later. He said something to the tune of, “when Katrina was coming through Denise and I waited too long. We didn’t leave until the day before. Our plane was sitting on the runway at Lakefront airport and it took our driver almost 2 hours to travel the 3 miles to get there.” Ha ha, there were a bunch of 25 year old kids making $30k a year trying to relate.
As a side note though, George paid his entire staff, the entire time during Katrina. There were even stories of people calling him in a bind and he was just sending money to them left and right. He always had a bad reputation in public but he did A LOT for his people.
This is the argument that Graham and Vogel have made. During a time when The Pegulas will be looking for state funding for renovations for the Blue Cross Arena (Amerks) and KeyBank Center, as well major funding for a new stadium or a huge renovation projection for New Era Stadium.
The way that they handled layoffs and downsizing for many community members who will be finding these ventures through taxes, is less than ideal from a PR standpoint.
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Who’s next? Anquan Bolden!?!?!?!?
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20 minutes ago, gjv001 said:
I'm hoping that sometime during the Draft on day three, we hear an announcement that the Bills have traded their pick to Jacksonville for Leonard Fournette. Fournette is the perfect power back to complement Motor.
It depends on:How badly the Jags want to get rid of Fournette. The rumour is that the return for him has been very low. Are they willing to take a 5th just to get rid of him?
What the Bills perceive his value to be? He can be a one year rentals who also could field a comp pick. Is that worth a 4th? 5th? or 6th? And are they better off selecting a back in the draft?
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5 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
Time to start getting into the QB flipping Business
Green Bay as a model? Explain.... because they had Favre in place as the unquestioned starter.Drafting a QB now sends a mixed message to your current QB who still is on a rookie deal. You have to consider the human element here. This isn’t Madden.
It will ever happen
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49 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
You just spend a lot of effort to agree with what I said- you hold Sammy responsible for what Whaley traded for him. I do not hold him responsible for it- therefore he is not a bust in my mind.
Ok It seems like you have a different definition than what I a bust is. To me, it’s a player who drastically doesn’t live up to expectation.Sammy was hailed as a generational talent and while he has shown flashes, the numbers don’t lie - he’s far from generational. At best he’s a capable #2 WR.
I just don’t think you can overlook what they gave up to get Sammy and the opportunities cost as well. They are one in the same.
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Doesn’t sound like he’ll be traded unless they can find one big offer
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18 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
I finally understand what you are all saying- you think Sammys worth is weighed against the multiple picks it took to make his selection happen. By that standard I have to assume you feel Goff is a failure as well since he was two first and two seconds plus more and is average also. As for him being a net positive as I will stand by the fact he was the best player on the field at least 7 times while a Bill.
That doesn’t make the pick a net positive. The Bills could’ve stayed where there at and taken another great WR that year. He still wouldn’t have been “the best player on the field 7 times.”Sammy was such a net positive, they traded him for a fraction of what they paid. Bad pick that really hurt this franchise....badly.
The Goff comparison is very different and not very equitable. QB’s are more valueable than WR’s and always have been. It’s accepted that you have to overpay to trade up for a QB. As Doug Whaley proved, it’s foolish to give up that much draft capital to trade on a WR - especially when your team has no QB.
Sammy was a very bad draft pick.
6 hours ago, Blaise321 said:That was James Hardy. Sad story. He is definitely high on the list of bad picks.
An atrocious draft pick from Marv Levy-
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20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I mean, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Gronkowski? No wonder they're happy with their RB'S, they will never run.
I'm also loving this. Patriots fans have to be upset. Stop crying, you won enough. Our turn.
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8 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
How do so many think Sammy is the worst value? Mike Williams and Maybin literally were net negatives and Sammy was a net positive while obviously not as the level we had hoped. Sammy was the best player on the field multiple times during his time here while Maybin and Williams were the worst every time they got on field.
Sammy was a net positive? Not at all when you consider what the team traded to draft him and the tremendous opportunity cost at the QB position.As it was shared before, the Bills paid dearly for drafting Sammy
25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:Actually this is pretty easy.
Best: Kyle Williams - He may have had the best Bills career of the last 20 years. Add to that him being a 5th round pick and it’s easy to crown him.
Worst - Aaron Maybin - This one is equally as easy. The Bills used the 11th pick of the draft on a guy to sack the opposing QB. He sacked the opposing QB as many times as I did in a Bills uniform. There is not another answer even close. He was a TERRIBLE player at TERRIBLE value. If you drafted a DE in the 7th round to rush the QB and he had no sacks you’d say it was an awful pick. Imagine picking him 250 spots higher!!
No disagreements on the pick, the only thing I’ll say is that in the grand scheme thing of things, drafting Maybin didn’t alter the franchise is a negative way the way other draft busts did. EJ and Sammy were not as big as a “bust”’but both those selections not panning out really set back the franchise -
1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
It's nothing but softball questions.
Brandon Beane holds a COVID-19 press conference and he's chomping at the bit to ask about continuity. That's an old Jauron holdover word.
And the thing that bugs me the most about Chris Brown, is he tries to sell all of this to the fans. Listen to him on Sunday Morning Countdown, always picks the Bills. When Jauron was here, Chris Brown was the mouthpiece of "hard work, watching the tape, fixing the mistakes", with Chan it was "the whole league is switching to the 3-4" and being onboard when Nix was calling Fitzpatrick a Franchise QB, Doug Marrone was sold as a "dynamic, innovator", then Rex was going to give us the schematic advantage on defense, and now we love the detailed, no-nonsense approach of McDermott/Beane.
Chris Brown spits out cliche after cliche that he has heard from Coaches over the years, but consistently has overrated the talent on the Bills roster compared to a realistic view across the entire league.
This was infuriating about Brown’s reporting. I don’t listen as much to him these days, so I don’t know how he has covered Beane/McDermott. But I do remember him trying to sell the crappy Bills product under Jauron and Gailey. So much that it made me tune him out. It was more marketing than unbiased reporting.
I guess it’s fine as long as they are honest about it...but he’s still positioned as a “!@#$”
I also remember when reports were swirling about Chan getting fired, he reported that he might not get fired because continuity is important. Come on!
I do think this might have changed a little...but like I said, I don’t really listen anymore.
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10 hours ago, KollegeStudnet said:
I still think Gil still has it. I enjoy listening to all of his stories. I'm not a fan of comparing draftees to players.
His voice and cadence put me asleep. Good for insomnia...very good. -
Predicting trades in drafts is especially useless because there are so many factors that come into play. Take no stock in Peter’s mock draft here.
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5 minutes ago, Gordio said:
I could only tell you about the 2 years our sons played together and Chris was nothing but a gentleman, pretty good soccer player/coach also. He used to help out a lot at the practices. He was pretty candid when I would ask him about the Bills. He was always very interesting to talk too.
I can see that. He seems to have a good reputation among beat reporters as well. But to me it just seems that he can’t really be the “journalist” he portrays himself to be, given the fact that he’s employed by the team he’s covering.I find he’s reluctant to criticize the Bills and his press conference questions were always weak - especially during the Rex Ryan years when you wanted answers.
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9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
I mean, what else is going on with sports?
and they should just go with their Throwbacks permanently. Those are great unis.
True but between the Falcons, Brows, and Patriots unveiling “new” uniforms it gets old27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:Retiring the Brady uniform. Like a girl getting a new hairstyle after a breakup.
New hairstyle? More like cutting 1/4 of an inch of hair
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1 hour ago, Gordio said:
This. He was over drafted & really benefitted from being in the worst QB class to come out in years. He wasn't really a QB at FSU, he was a receiver/athlete trying to play the QB position. The comparison to Allen as far as athletic ability as far as the QB position is concerned is laughable. It is not close.
My son used to play soccer with Chris Brown's son & I asked Chris the night before the draft at one of the boys game which way the bills were going & he said " I keep hearing that the bills like Manuel." I just said "oh god." & he said "I know, I hope it is a smoke screen."
Why can’t Chris be more candid like that on-air? I always skip by any of his reports or interviews on WGR. A real snooze-fest.
Good story though
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The worst has to be either:
EJ Manuel - the Bills reached and basically wasted a 1st round pick on a 3rd or 4th round prospect. Worse yet they pushed a 3rd rounder as a franchise QB and the results were poor
Sammy Watkins - certainly not the worst player drafted. But when you consider the value they gave up to draft him, the return they received, the other WR’s they passed on to select him, and the players that were available at other positions who could’ve helped, and this was a horrible pick.
Thanks Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley-
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Getting so annoyed with these “new” uniform announcements. They are exactly the same with the exception of the red stripe on the shoulder.
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4 hours ago, hmsmystic said:
This- you may not agree with his opinions, but no need to criticize the guy.
Brandt has more information, contacts, perspective and history than most anyone
He’s 90
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3 hours ago, Hardhatharry said:
Doesnt matter though neither was any good...
The discussion was about finding a better option at QB. I think Smith would have been better
Are Reporters Sharing Fake Draft News as a Smokescreen For Teams?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Exactly. As fans we can see this. But a journalist like Rapoport who is “connected” reports this as legit news. WTF?
I don’t get your humor, but I assume that this is an insult?
So are they reporting it as a favor? Or because they are given a kickback? Or both?