Seoulofstone
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Does this upset you?
He says Josh Allen should have been drafted ahead of Bradley Chubb. That seems like a compliment to me.
With thanks to @FeelingOnYouboty whose handle screams of grammatical precision, for keeping me humble.
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Darnell Savage to go in round 1. Jachai Polite drops to 2nd. Deionte Thompson drops to 3rd.
Bills will trade back rnd 1 with a plan to snag a stud WR next year, and up in R 2/3 for a TE and RT.
But I guess that’s not that bold. Ok try this. Nobody will select a QB in the top ten. I think that’s bold.
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On 4/10/2019 at 1:06 PM, Happy Gilmore said:
There will be 32 players selected in each of the 7 rounds.
Ha wrong! Giants lost a pick for Sam Beal in the supplementary draft.
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1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said:
There's usually a premium on moving up, but trades usually don't differ all that much from the established value charts readily available online. It wouldn't cost our 2nd and next years 1st to move up 4 spots.
Oh yeah I agree. But nobody is moving back for a third and a fifth. That’s wishful thinking. You have to accept that you are going to lose value picks this year and/or next.
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It’s funny how fans want the moon to move back but think a trade up can be achieved relatively cheaply. I think it’s fun to imagine but I can’t see an early round 1 trade up. Rd2 and 3 absolutely.
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Echo others thoughts about your post, a very good read.
I wonder how far back in R1 the Bills need to move to grab a 1st next year?There are gonna be some good WRs next year.
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1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said:
Id keep him on the active Roster if we can. When we are blowing out a team we can get him reps.
If he’s on the active roster he takes up a spot losing his exemption. If he’s not then he gets roster exemption but is unpromotable in any circumstance during the season. So in that way the IPP is a bit of a catch 22 for the player and the team...
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2 hours ago, White Linen said:
I have much respect for rugby players but I don't think he makes it. The NFL is the most dangerous and violent field of play in the world. It's the years of technical training that will cause the separation. The instincts an NFL RB has are learned behaviors and they're just different skill sets.
The smart money says you’re probably right. This guy like Efe Obada also from the IPP is a raw athlete. Obada athletically is similar to Julius Peppers but as a DE was miles away technically. I may be completely wrong but I can see RBs having a better chance. Seeing holes and hitting space is a similar skill set though he will be unused to trusting his block and seeing the play unfold.
Certainly as ST I can see him being a valuable role player and he’s cheap and doesn’t take up roster space.
The problem comes when you can’t promote him to the roster unless you go all in on him. He can’t come in mid season so in all likelihood he won’t make the 53 and by the time he is trusted enough to potentially start his opportunity maybe gone. Obada was the first guy from IPP to make a roster at the expense of 4th rnd draft pick Daeshon Hall, but despite winning NFC defensive player of the weak he’s finding it hard to hold down a job on a weak Panthers pass rush.
Anyway good luck to the guy, hope he does well.
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3 hours ago, RyanC883 said:
During a game, a QB is throwing a variety of throws at various speeds, likely never "red-lining" their arm. This contest would involve throwing it as far as possible, ask., pushing your arm to its limit. That's dangerous.
You have no idea what the specifics are of this contest because it hasn’t even been decided yet. You’re incredibly naive if you think that anyone would allow them to come close to red-lining their arms.
If you genuinely think QBs don’t try to throw the ball as far as they can during practice I don’t know what to tell you. I mean you honestly think that Darnold and Allen haven’t been working on their deep balls at the QB camp they’re attending?
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27 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
I can't imagine that either team would allow their QB to do this. It's a terrible idea due to injury risk. Although there is some sort of mutual respect brewing between JA and Mahomes that is fun to watch.
Please explain this to me. Terrible risk? When was the last time a QB was taken out of a game by straining his arm by throwing? Check that. Has it EVER happened? It must be a regular occurrence the way some people here are talking. I genuinely cannot see any grounds for concern if common sense is applied.
I get that people are protective of their QB but this is insane!
Here’s a radical idea. How about holding this in the off-season?
Please someone explain the insane risk because this line absolutely boggles my mind.
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9 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Why does something always have to be gained though? I mean its ok to just have fun in life sometimes and not make every thing about gaining something.
Not only do I think this wold be fun, but they should totally do it if they can also help a charity. Loser has to donate a check to the winners charity of choice. Everyone wins and has a good time
Thank you. It would be great to see a couple of young up and coming guys have fun together for a good cause. It doesn’t have to be framed as reckless endangerment. These are adults not children.
What next are you gonna employ someone to help them cross the road and cut up their food? Road deaths and choking are real world dangers too. Smdh.
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1 hour ago, BuffAlone said:
Panthers
Will be watching closely! ?
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It’s interesting to consider safe picks versus risky picks. You’re basically talking about the projected ceiling of the player. JA and TE last years Bills first round picks are both potentially high ceiling players. Is this Beane’s preference?
I remember thinking that Christian Mccaffrey was a safe floor player versus the hype surrounding Leonard Fournette who was picked above him. Fournette had a great first year but in the long run McCaffrey looks like a more versatile player and now that all of the predraft stuff has gone away most people would go for CMC. Absolutely nobody had him above Fournette at the time.
I think there is a feeling that the Bills picked up their solid players in FA. I can see them aggressively pursuing the guys they want.
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Kinda feel bad for OP, you guys are being a bit literal. He’s talking about blue chip players and the drop off with a trade down.
It’s a completely subjective question but relevant to the Bills if they trade back.
I see the blue chip players ending around Pick 10 the Ed Oliver, Devin White, Christian Wilkins range. Of course they could go higher and lower-this is just my opinion. For my taste there are no elite OL, DB, WR, RB QB. Naturally some QBs may go high as will the true blue chippers- edge DT LB1.
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Glad you’re enjoying Thailand Shaw! Are you in the Golden triangle? Are you surprised at the volume of FA players recruited? Does it bother you that the Bills haven’t taken any of the biggest ‘names’ in FA?
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1 hour ago, Bakin said:
My post was not meant to trigger anyone. It was a serious question.
Fair enough, I misinterpreted your post as taking pleasure at some of the reactions.
I will say this. As an Englishman, many of our club sports were established and historically have been integral to a local community. This is a notion I can support. Links between sporting clubs and their integration and relationship with a local community right down to grass roots projects.
The way sports institutions function in England is a huge contrast from a culture of franchises-even when a franchise has been based in one place for a lengthy period of time.
However and this is the nerve that I think you have touched in this thread, I believe it’s a thing that people can become overly defensive and tribal about whether you are a ‘true’ fan of a particular club or not. Taken to unhealthy levels this can result as in the 1980s in English soccer in extreme levels of hooliganism and genuinely unpleasant fan environments.
For me, sports should always be inclusive not exclusive.
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30 minutes ago, Bakin said:
Some great responses.
And some seriously triggered ‘fans’.
LOL
The fact that you get a kick out of triggering people probably says something about you.
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My answer is simple. I am not an American thus have no geographical affiliation. I AM however a sports fan. So what I like is watching the game and talking about it with anyone who will engage. My team has been the Panthers because my wife is from Carolina. When I was a kid and started watching in the mid 80s I followed the Seahawks and Vikings mostly because I loved their logos. One thing I tend not to do is follow teams that often win. I don’t feel that to be a particularly compelling narrative. I started following the Bills last year when MCD then Beane came across. That season when the Bills broke the drought I can’t tell you how much pleasure I took watching and rewatching the clips of fans celebrating. It was awesome. Nowadays I probably feel more excited about the Bills than the Panthers-frankly there are more reasons for optimism for the Bills. If that makes you uncomfortable sobeit but my bottom line is that following multiple teams is a source of pleasure for me.
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1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said:
Me too John. Williams is probably my #1 free agent target to be honest.
Just be aware that Daryl Williams has only had one good season for the Panthers-2 years ago prior to his injury. Prior to that he was very average. Furthermore during that year, 2017 as an RT DW received a ton of help from tE’s and RB’s. Mike Shula’s Offense ran 12-21 personnel a combined 42% compared to Norb turner’s 28% the subsequent year.
in 2017 only Taylor Lewan 45.3% of plays, Jack Conklin 42.1%, RonnieStanley 42.0% received more help than DW 38.8%.
coming off an injury too, I’m just saying there’s risk there.
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Greg Olsen to replace Witten in the booth. I reckon.
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Just now, JoeF said:
Agree, he's a bad corner but he'd be a fifth corner...what he does bring is excellent special teams play at the vet minimum.
Really? I wouldn’t even want him as depth. He was a total liability this year having been pretty good for a late pick during his first stint. Our ST was very meh and I don’t remember him doing a thing all year-unsurprising as his speed is gone. In addition his attitude was so bad last year he was dropped for a stretch of games. Frankly an undrafted player seems like he would have much more worth. I want to see Buffalo do well hence I wouldn’t want to see Captain go there.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
Another McDermott guy out there to add to Thomas Davis and Kurt Coleman
He’s very bad. Don’t think you need him with Taron Johnson doing so well in his rookie year.
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9 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:
Hollywood Brown will Definately fall due to injury, which is unfortunate.
As for who will rise, I think Kaleb McGary will show excellent feet for a man his size. I can see him rise to the 3rd round
Yes unfortunate for him but someone will get a bargain. He’s not due to miss training camp. Then again, the cautionary tale here is John Ross.
I think OL is very interesting. After the hype surrounding the colts rise this season my feeling is that OL in general will be overdrafted. If you check out other NFL fan forums, nearly all of them have identical threads. Sign Saffold and Paradis in FA. Cody Ford, Chris Lindstrom and Dalton Risner. My theory is that everyone believes these guys will drop but the opposite may be true. So the question becomes do you want Risner so bad because he said some nice things about Buffalo, or can you live with a guy like Connor McGovern. Michael Jordan or even Ben Powers later? I like Risner (especially his position versatility) but he did have a dodgy first day at the senior bowl where he repeatedly was beaten on reps. Also he’s 24 which can be both good and bad.
It makes me wonder even more about OL. We know that it’s not unusual to take a year or two to adapt to the speed at the professional level-especially for tackles. Fans expect to draft guys who will transform things immediately. But I remember the hype surrounding guys like Forrest Lamp, Billy Price and Frank Ragnow who were all considered very good picks. So maybe there is an argument for taking a guy with attributes like Greg Little, knowing that properly coached up he can be a REAL franchise changer. After all Beane has a track record for that having drafted Allen and Edmunds.
It’s hard because most sport fans have no patience and GMs and coaches are expected to win now but that’s just maybe not always a fair expectation for OL. As I said, after the colts this year, it’s like every fanbase in the league thinks it’s that easy to transform your OL, but it’s the exception not the rule....
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The only thing more useless than mock drafts, looking back a year to do the draft over. Yet the NFL site publishes this.
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Seoul_panther
Damn you autocorrect.