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    So You Need to Move Diggs..Why the Texans??

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    1 hour ago, MJS said:

    Look at what other teams got trading their wide receivers this offseason. Keenan Allen was traded for a 4th rounder. Jerry Jeudy was traded for a 5th and 6th. Getting a 2nd for Diggs is actually pretty good, and only the Texans were willing to give that.

    You have absolutely zero credible intel to back your claim that “only the Texans” were offering a 2nd for Diggs. What we do know is that the Texans were a preferred destination for Diggs. This has been discussed via multiple channels since the conclusion of the pro-bowl.  

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    So You Need to Move Diggs..Why the Texans??

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    20 minutes ago, FitzShowUsYourTitz said:


    Exactly.  Doesn’t take much of a brain to realize there were not 30 teams offering the same compensation 

    jeez 😳

    This was Diggs preferred destination and Beane did right by him, I’m not convinced this was the best offer on the table.  

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    Beane Press Conference 4pm

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    21 minutes ago, Einstein said:


    Twitter: Is Stefon Diggs the reason for Josh Allen's success?

    Random person replies: Diggs is great, but he is not the only reason for Allen's success.

    Diggs replies: You sure about that?

    If that is the type of stuff he will say in public, I cant imagine how he acts behind closed doors. You dont throw your QB under the bus like that.

    You paraphrased the living hell out of the real tweet. 

    Diggs traded to Texans for picks

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    1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said:

    The second round pick the Bills received came to Houston via the Vikings who are likely to be starting a rookie or journeyman QB.  There is potential for the pick to be high second round.  I am liking this trade better by the minute.

    This years first and give the Vikings their 2025 2nd round pick back for Jefferson.  

    Diggs traded to Texans for picks

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    3 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

    Not impressed by this trade at all. 

     

    You don't have a legit number 1, your number 2 left in FA, and don't have an early 1st round draft pick to grab one of the best WRs. Oh, and plenty of dead cap to go with it, unless I missed something (which I may have, didn't read the whole thread).

     

    If they can't get a top WR, I hope they go OL so Josh will have more time to find these underwhelming receivers & for them to get open.

    We didn’t have a #1 last year either and our #3 was a #4 at best.  I’m honestly surprised we got anything for Diggs looking at his last 10 games. 

    TSW Mock Draft 1.0 - Completed

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    54 minutes ago, section122 said:

    4 Qbs and 4 WRs in the first 12 picks.  I wonder if that has ever happened? 

     

    Also only 2 defenders taken so far and both edge rushers.  

     

    Some interesting trends developing. 

    Not a chance 4 WRs go top 12.  The last time the Giants passed on a QB to draft a skill position it didn’t work out very well for them.  Denver selecting the 4th best WR at 12 when they have no QB is laughable.  They are either trading up for a QB or trading down for a 1st + in next years draft to have ammo for one.  There’s a good chance 5 QBs go high with Penix possibly penetrating the top 15.  
     

    Personally, I think there are way too many crappy teams that will be looking to find a cornerstone QB or build the trenches first before spending a top 10 pick on a WR.  

    Gunner's 2024 Mock Draft - FINAL v3.0 NOW LIVE (p.13)

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    27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    He certainly could, but in reality 6 QBs in the first feels a lot. But there is still the Giants and Raiders there who I don't have taking one who could.

    6 QBs is a lot, but WRs in the first round would also tie the record.  It’s looking like 30-40% of the first round will be QBs and WRs which is insane. 

    Gunner's 2024 Mock Draft - FINAL v3.0 NOW LIVE (p.13)

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    5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

    Okay here is version 2.0, post free agency and with FOUR trades!!! Flame away!!

     

     

    1. Chicago Bears – Caleb Williams – Quarterback, USC

    It was a tentative pick in version 1.0, but trading away (maybe that should be “giving away”?) Justin Fields to the Steelers has set this in stone. Also, while I do believe the smoke that there are teams who don’t have Caleb Williams as QB1 the Bears are not one of them. He will be the pick.

     

    2. Washington Commanders – Jayden Daniels – Quarterback, LSU

    Teams have tried sniffing around the number 2 pick looking at trade possibilities and have been firmly knocked back – the Commanders are taking a Quarterback. I had Drake Maye here in version 1.0 but it increasingly feels like the momentum is behind Daniels to Washington.

     

    3. New England Patriots – Drake Maye – Quarterback, North Carolina

    The trendy move here has been to have the Patriots trading out (normally with the Vikings). But I just don’t understand why they would do that. The Patriots have Jacoby Brissett, Bailey Zappe and Nathan Rourke as the Quarterbacks on the roster. They have to take a Quarterback and I believe they’d prefer Maye to Daniels in any event.

     

    4. TRADE!! Minnesota Vikings – JJ McCarthy – Quarterback, Michigan (Minnesota gets #4 – 1800 value; Arizona gets #11, #23 & #167 – 2034 value)

    Which means the draft starts here. Let me be clear I think #4 is too early for JJ McCarthy but it is the law of supply and demand. He seems to be the consensus 4th QB off the board and there as many as four teams potentially in the mix so if you don’t come up to take him here one of the others will. I suspect Minnesota are the most desperate and they have those two first rounders to dangle but keep an eye on the Giants as a dark horse for this trade because they have less distance to go to this pick and it would mean Arizona still gets one of the top two receivers at #6.

      

    5. Los Angeles Chargers – Marvin Harrison Jnr, Wide Receiver, Ohio State

    When Marvin Harrison Snr was an NFL rookie his Quarterback was Jim Harbaugh. In a scenario where the first four guys off the board are Quarterbacks the NFL will go full circle and in Marvin Harrison Jnr’s rookie season in the NFL his Head Coach will be Jim Harbaugh.

     

    6. New York Giants – Malik Nabers – Wide Receiver, LSU

    The Giants have to add playmakers for their passing game whoever the Quarterback is. They have spent day two picks on Wan’Dale Robinson and Jalin Hyatt the last two years but so far the contributions have been modest. They need a legit #1 threat. Nabers can be used the way Brian Daboll used Stefon Diggs in Buffalo.

     

    7. Tennessee Titans – Joe Alt – Offensive Tackle, Notre Dame

    As I said in version 1.0 the Titans tried to get by with Andre Dillard at left tackle in 2023 and it was a predictable car crash.  This season is all about evaluating Will Levis for new Head Coach Brian Callahan and that starts with giving him protection. Callahan Snr is coaching the offensive line and will love working with Alt who is a mean, nasty plug and play left tackle.

     

    8. TRADE!! Arizona Cardinals – Rome Odunze – Wide Receiver, Washington (Arizona gets #8 – 1400 value; Atlanta gets #11, #90 & #186 – 1407 value)

    We saw the Cardinals do this last year, when they traded back from #3 to #12 and then up again from #12 to #6. I think they want to sell #4 but also want to still snag one of the top 3 receivers which means getting ahead of the Bears and Jets. Odunze is an immediate upgrade for them.

     

    9. Chicago Bears – Dallas Turner – EDGE, Alabama

    The Bears traded for Montez Sweat mid-season and it paid off - his 6 sacks in 9 games led the team. However, the fact that someone who only joined at the trade deadline led the team in sacks is a concern in itself. Turner had 10 sacks for the Crimson Tide last year and adds some juice to that unit.

     

    10. New York Jets – Brock Bowers – Tight End, Georgia

    I had Bowers here in version 1.0 because the top two tackles were off the board. Since then the Jets have attacked their offensive line in free agency leaving them free to take Bowers here as an offensive match up weapon for Aaron Rodgers.

     

    11. (From Minnesota via ARZ) Atlanta Falcons – Jared Verse – EDGE, Florida State

    Having addressed Quarterback with Kirk Cousins the Falcons are the favourite to win the NFC South. However, they still have a need for additional pass rusher help. 37-year-old Calais Campbell led the team with 6.5 sacks in 2023, he is a free agent and hasn’t been replaced.

     

    12. Denver Broncos – Bo Nix – Quarterback, Oregon

    The Broncos are in a horrible spot. They have to get a QB (Jarret Stidham and Ben DiNucci are all that’s on the roster). They don’t have the capital to compete with other teams who might trade up; they don’t have a second rounder and can’t wait and hope to get one in round three and they can’t even trade back to maximise value because the Raiders, another Quarterback needy team, are right behind them at #13. I feel like they have to pick Best Quarterback Available at #12 and the consensus is that will be Bo Nix.

     

    13. Las Vegas Raiders – Terrion Arnold – Cornerback, Alabama

    The Raiders roster is pretty bad. They could go almost any direction at this spot and there isn’t a single pick here that would surprised me. It could come down to interior defensive line or corner and I think that ultimately their need in the secondary is even greater.

     

    14. New Orleans Saints – Olu Fashanu – Offensive Tackle, Penn State

    The noises from inside the building sound like the Saints are done with 2022 first round pick Trevor Penning and now we learn that right tackle Ryan Ramczyk’s could miss the season with a degenerative knee condition. Fashanu would be an immediate starter at left tackle.

     

    15. Indianapolis Colts – Quinyon Mitchell – Cornerback, Toledo

    The Colts have a solid roster and have been quiet in free agency. But one obvious hole is at corner where return specialist Dallis Flowers, with five career starts to his name, is top of the depth chart opposite second-year man JuJu Brents. Mitchell is trending towards being CB1 and is a great scheme fit.

     

    16. Seattle Seahawks – Troy Fautanu – Offensive Tackle, Washington

    I list Fautanu as a tackle but it is likely the Seahwaks would see him at guard where the interior offensive line needs significant work. This is becoming a popular mock choice not least because Fautanu’s college Offensive Coordinator, Ryan Grubb, now occupies the same position in Seattle.

     

    17. Jacksonville Jaguars – Brian Thomas Jnr – Wide Receiver, LSU

    The Jags added Devin Duvernay and Gabe Davis to Christian Kirk in their receiver room during free agency, but Calvin Ridley moved on. If Quinyon Mitchell or Arnold were here I might have gone corner but, in their absence, a big, fast, athletic freak of a receiver feels on brand for GM Trent Baalke.

     

    18. Cincinnati Bengals – JC Latham – Offensive Tackle, Alabama

    Corner and receiver are possibilities (especially if they were to trade away Tee Higgins) but I still think the achilles heel of this team is their offensive line, especially with an injury prone Quarterback. They need a right tackle and they like bigger guys so Lathan fits the bill.

     

    19. TRADE!! Dallas Cowboys – Amarius Mims – Offensive Tackle, Georgia (Dallas gets #19 & #196 – 888 value; Los Angeles gets #24 & #87 – 895 value)

    If this was a no-trade draft then Amarius Mims to the Steelers at #20 would be as close to a lock as it gets. They appear to have really focussed in on him for some time. However, another team that appear to love his skillset is the Cowboys and they showed when drafting Tyler Smith out of Tulsa two years ago that they are willing to take a risk on raw talent up front. Mims either starts in place of the departed Tyron Smith at left tackle and lets Tyler stay at guard or is an immediate upgrade on the right side.

     

    20. Pittsburgh Steelers – Taliese Fuaga – Offensive Tackle, Oregon State

    Pittsburgh drafted Broderick Jones last year and started him at right tackle as a rookie but they have one of the worst starting left tackle in the NFL. The plan is surely to switch Jones to the left in 2024 which would create a hole at right tackle that Fuaga would fill.

     

    21. Miami Dolphins – Xavier Worthy – Wide Receiver, Texas

    This is my wildcard. We know Mike McDonald loves speed on offense and while this feels like a luxury pick given their defensive needs and the fact they have Hill and Waddle already, good luck to the defensive coordinator trying to cover all three of them.

     

    22. Philadelphia Eagles – Cooper DeJean – Cornerback, Iowa

    The Eagles secondary is a series of question marks. Veterans Darius Slay and James Bradberry struggled in 2023, Kelee Ringo made little impression as a rookie and their safeties were bad. They have brought back CJ Gardner-Johnson from Detroit but DeJean is a versatile playmaker who could become a mainstay on the back end.

     

    23. (From Cleveland via HOU and MIN) Arizona Cardinals – Jackson Powers-Johnson – Center, Oregon

    The Cardinals would have three firsts in this scenario which might give them the freedom to invest in the center position where they have long since had a hole. Powers-Johnson had an impressive week at the Senior Bowl and vaulted himself right into day 1 contention.

     

    24. (From Dallas) Los Angeles Rams – Byron Murphy II – Defensive Tackle, Texas

    The Rams didn’t just lose a defensive tackle when Aaron Donald retired, they lost probably the greatest player in franchise history. While it is unfair to ask any rookie to come in and replace that level of impact Murphy is a good penetrative defensive tackle who will replace some of the pass rush juice they have lost.

     

    25. TRADE!! Kansas City Chiefs – Jordan Morgan – Offensive Tackle, Arizona (Kansas City gets #25 – 720 value; Green Bay gets #32 & #95 – 710 value)

    The Chiefs come up the board, but it is not for a wide receiver. They have tried the vet route to fix the left tackle spot, trading for Orlando Brown and signing a Superbowl winner in Donovan Smith. It might be time to draft a long term answer and Morgan is an out and out left tackle who excels as a pass blocker. He could lock down Mahomes’ blindside for a decade.

     

    26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Laiatu Latu – EDGE, UCLA

    Latu is my #1 edge rusher in the class but the health concerns are likely to push him down the board. I have heard the Packers (who originally have the pick before this one) and the Buccs linked to him frequently so I feel like this is the range he comes off the board.  The Buccs lost Shaq Barrett in free agency so have a need.

     

    27. Arizona Cardinals – Chop Robinson – EDGE, Penn State

    This is a pick I’m leaving unchanged from version 1.0. In a world where the Cardinals have just the two first rounders unlike the three they end up with in this mock it is clear to me that they have to get a wide receiver and a pass rusher. Chop is raw, but his ceiling is high.

     

    28. Buffalo Bills – Adonai Mitchell – Wide Receiver, Texas

    I can see a scenario where the Bills move from this spot, either up or down. But if they stay here I still think it will be a receiver. Mitchell’s tape is not as impressive as his combine numbers but the physical talent is obviously there. If the consistency in his play can follow he has true WR1 potential.

     

    29. Detroit Lions – Jer’Zhan Newton – Defensive Tackle, Illinois

    This would be the steal of round one. I have a top 10 grade on Newton but possibly because he didn’t work out at the combine with injury or because he is from unfashionable Illinois he hasn’t had the buzz his talent deserves. The Lions have Alim McNeill and DJ Reader at defensive tackle, but they are both really 1 techs. Here is the interior penetrating 3 tech they require.

     

    30. Baltimore Ravens – Graham Barton – Guard, Duke

    The Ravens lost both starting guards in free agency – Zeitler to the Lions and Simpson to the Jets. They did draft Andrew Vorhees last year in round seven despite his ACL tear at the combine and he might step into one spot. Barton can arguably play all five spots on the line but would start at guard.

     

    31. San Francisco 49ers – Tyler Guyton – Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma

    I had Mims here in version 1.0 but this time it is Guyton who slides to San Francisco. The 49ers lost right tackle Mike McGlinchey in free agency last year and Guyton would presumably start there as a rookie but he might even be a long term in-house replacement for Trent Williams.

     

    32. (From Kansas City) Green Bay Packers – Nate Wiggins – Cornerback, Clemson

    Green Bay have only spent one of their last thirteen first round picks on offense and that was when they drafted Jordan Love. No team has spent more recent first round capital on defensive backs, with five in the last decade. They have a need there again with the Jaire Alexander situation looking dicey and a hole opposite him.

    Penix envy?  Most draft gurus projecting him to go first round after his pro day! 

    Marvin Harrison Jr wants to be a Bill

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    1 hour ago, steven50 said:

    Ya tweets....

     

    NBC sports and SI say he wants to be a cardinal.

     

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/paris-johnson-jr-says-marvin-harrison-jr-wants-to-play-for-the-cardinals

     

    https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/news/marvin-harrison-jr-wants-arizona-cardinals-draft-him

     

    Hmmm who to believe? Random guy on Twitter, or NBC sports, Sports illustrated and every other news outlet......

     

    This is such a hard decision.🤔

    Both 🤷‍♂️

    Reason he wants to play for AZ: 💰 

    Reasons he wants to play for BUFF: 🏆 💍 #17

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    KC Trades L.Sneed to Titans

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    3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

    They can roll that cap space over to next year as Jones's cap hit next year is $34.8m in 2025.  It puts them in good position to re-sign Humphrey, Danna, and D. Smith if they wanted.

    I think they were in good position regardless.  From everything I’ve read, there is supposed to be another massive increase to the cap ceiling for the 25/26 season (the Bills, Saints, Cowboys, Dolphins, 49ers, Chiefs, Ravens and Eagles would all appreciate it).  I think the Chieftriots are up to something big and I hope it’s not a trade for Jefferson.  

    KC Trades L.Sneed to Titans

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    23 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

    Same as a comp pick

    Comp pick is at the end of the 3rd round (97-102 range).  Until the Titans obtain a quality QB, I fully expect them to be drafting in the top 10, so this pick is most likely in the top 70’s of the draft.

     

    On another note, this is a salary dump by the Chiefs…my question is why?  They had cap space for Snead, why settle for the lie compensation?  Their C is going to get a massive contract soon, but no one else looks to be breaking the bank on their team for 2025.  They are going to have $30M in cap space, who are they targeting?  Let’s all hope it’s not an elite offensive talent.  

    Safety Julian Blackmon visiting Bills

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    5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

     

    1.) He wants to talk with / visit all interested teams and then decide

    2.) We didn't like something about him or feel good on his medicals

    3.) We wanted to give him a smaller base with lots of incentives 

    4.) We signed Mike Edwards instead

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