Bockeye
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8 hours ago, Fires said:
I looked and the topic was moved to the ppp forum. I wasn't meaning it to be political. Just pointing out that Florida is open to sports teams, and consider them essential services.
Thanks Fires.
Tough to separate sports news and covid these days. Seems too tempting for some not to jump in with a political comment. PPP is the place for folks to debate and there are some good ones there.
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9 hours ago, Q-baby! said:
I made my money and got out!
Doesn’t really matter to me when things go back to normal. If things open right up and I don’t like it, I can just lay low, no biggie!Thats what I figured. This isn’t affecting you at all, let the others suffer. Keep us in lockdown forever.
I’d bet you are not willing to part ways with your hard earned money to help out some business owners or folks on unemployment are you?? If so, let me know as I have a number of individuals that can use it. Put your money where your mouth is - if you feel continued lockdown is needed, start helping those in need.
You crack me up - Lexus Liberal.
Tibs - calling you out. Can’t or don’t want to answer my original question, eh?? Q-baby at least showed their cards.
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My fervent hope is that left wing alarmists are either out of work on unemployment (which we need to put a shelf life on) or have a business which they must file bankruptcy on. I believe when they are staring down the barrel, they will change their tune and will help advocate for opening the economy.
Having said this, I’m sure Tibs/Q baby are teleworking and making good coin as are the rest of our friends on here pushing for a continued lockdown. Prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
If you are unemployed and making much, much less than prior the lockdown, OR have a biz which is completely shut down with no revenue coming in, I’d honestly be very interested in your perspective on why we need to be in continued lockdown.
Tibs/Q-baby - you makin’ money??
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4 hours ago, daz28 said:
It might literally infect almost everyone as you said, but lets say it infects only half of us for arguments sake. Then let's say 50% of those are asymptomatic, and hopefully develop antibodies, and we go with 1% mortality. Fair enough numbers, right. That's 875, 000 deaths. That smashes almost 4 years of World War 2 deaths by 5 times in months, not years. Will we reach that total? Likely not, but social distancing may have been what kept those numbers from becoming real. Are we in a position to say 200k deaths isn't realistic? I'm not so sure. If we can handle 4 or 5 years of world war, we can handle a few more weeks of lockdown. At 85k deaths in 2 months, the "it's only a flu" clueless crew need to stfu, an put their mask on. I wish people would stop waving the flag, because it won't make this go away, nor will it make anything better.
Easy to say if you don't have a business or means to support yourself. Easy to say if you didn't have to call dozens of employees who have worked for you for years and say, sorry, I have to lay you off and we will never open again. Entire life savings have been poured into businesses and careers and have vanished.
There are always risks. 300k deaths from automobile accidents in the US/year. Is it necessary that you drive to get an ice cream on Saturday, veer over the other side of the road and kill a family of 4. Every time you get into an automobile you take a risk and in many instances - an unnecessary risk. We've done enough isolating and social distancing and we can continue some of this, but WE MUST GET BACK TO WORK. Even if this is marginally worse than the flu, we cannot lock down an entire country for 3, 4, 5 months.
I can almost guarantee you are not a biz owner, nor laid off. Probably home teleworking collecting a paycheck.
I know you would like me to take a knee for the National Anthem and not wave the flag, but I'm proud of my country and I love the ideals we stand for. You can put the flag in your back pocket, but for me, l'll keep waving it and fighting for what it means.
In summary - you can STFU.
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2 hours ago, shoshin said:
I was having a conversation with a fellow business owner the other day. One of his biggest concerns is liability. He is "essential" as an accountant and wants to reopen his office but he's afraid of getting sued if someone gets sick and dies. I imagine his concern is widespread.
There has been some talk about business protections from liability but I haven't seen much progress on that front. It could be a really important piece of reopening.
My business can be remote and we're not essential so I am not supposed to open until phase 2 (green) in our area. Since we're still at phase 0 (red), I haven't given this much thought yet.
An article on the debate. On one side, businesses want protection. On the other, you want to make sure businesses are taking some precautions. There's a middle ground to get this passed. Congress should have been pushing for this in first two funding rounds.
Great point Shoshin. I didn't think about this until I just saw a WSJ article about it. McConnell is trying to insert language to afford some protection to businesses.
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14 hours ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:
It is already beginning here in the suburbs of Albany. Had an attempted break in at 8AM a couple weeks ago down the street, and busted a guy casing my house Saturday. Also, a week ago an attempted break in while me and my daughter were turkey hunting. They knew I wasn't there because my truck was gone, luckily my alarm went off, my wife was home alone in bed. Again, about 8AM.
Sorry to hear MH. At least they haven't taken your guns yet and some turkey 5 shot works well for self defense.
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5 hours ago, Chef Jim said:
I'm as cynical as the next guy but I'm thinking it's more of they just don't have the balls to make a decision. Hand wringing at it's finest.
This could be it Chef Jim, esp with elected officials not wanting blame for anything as it could mean their careers. I may be wrong, but I think by in large, its a political football for them - trump = bad, and anything he says they must be contrarian.
I do know this, we need to open businesses. At this point, I am all for splitting the country into two - liberals/conservatives or making each state independent.
I've owned/own a ton of business, paid millions of dollars in taxes and have hundreds of employees. I'm at wits end seeing what this is doing to employees and business owners alike.
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6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
Are you ***** kidding me?!?!
Why? What does this mean?
Keep kicking the can down the road until:
a) A large majority of the population is dependent upon the government for their survival
b) Mail in ballots are required for the presidential election
c) Small businesses are wiped out and Capitalism is snuffed out for good and we can usher in the new age of socialism
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6 hours ago, B-Man said:
‘Scandal Free’ Obama Strikes Again
by Katie Pavlich
It's one of the biggest lies in leftist media and insider Washington politics: President Obama left the White House after eight years without a single scandal.
"We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us," Obama said during a private event in 2018, which was then repeated by his adoring allies.
This is blatantly untrue and new information about the FBI's unsubstantiated criminal investigation into General Michael Flynn proves Obama was engaged in scandalous abuses of power right up until the moment he left the presidency.
Come on B-man, the $1.7 Billion Obama gave to Iran was not a scandal. Iran is a good and decent country and we owed them.
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In case any of you hadn’t seen. A little pick me up for your Friday.
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PlanDemic, a Film about the Global Plan to Take Control of Our Lives, Liberty, Health & Freedom.
Dr. Judy Mikovits is a modern-day Rosalind Franklin, a brilliant researcher shaking up the old boys' club of science with her groundbreaking discoveries. And like many women who have trespassed into the world of men, she uncovered decades-old secrets that many would prefer to stay buried.From her doctoral thesis, which changed the treatment of HIV-AIDS, saving the lives of millions, including basketball great Magic Johnson, to her spectacular discovery of a new family of human retroviruses, and her latest research which points to a new golden age of health, Dr. Mikovits has always been on the leading edge of science.
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Anyone watching the 6:00 Bills/Dallas game on replay tonight? Watching now and forgot that Haushka missed an extra point, 50 yd FG, and bounced one off the upright at 41 that luckily went in. Makes the Bass pick look all that better.
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4 hours ago, Nervous Guy said:
Fromm has weak arm, blah, blah, blah... Fromm was an exceptional college QB. To follow up on nervous guys post, look at this highlight reel of Brady from Michigan - all floaters, WR’s coming back to the ball. Terrible.
Fromm is NOT the next Tom Brady, but to write him off before taking an NFL snap is idiocy.
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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Shut down the media? Ok, lol
Most don’t call propaganda media.
Here’s a great article on how the NYT’s is assisting China with its propaganda.
“The pro-lock-down newspaper has been a leader in promoting the fear that the U.S. would run well short of needed intensive-care facilities. Fortunately this hasn’t come to pass and, if it ever does, let’s hope public officials don’t decide that the solution is to set fire to America’s economy, which generates the wealth to provide health care for all Americans.”
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But scientists are almost never unani-mous, and many appeals to “science” are transparently political or ideologi-cal. Consider the story of John Ioanni-dis, a professor at Stanford’s School of Medicine. His exper-tise is wide-ranging—he juggles appointments in statistics, biomedical data, prevention research and health research and policy. Google Scholar ranks him the world’s 100 most-cited scientists. He has published more than 1,000 papers, many of them meta-analyses—re-views of other studies. Yet he’s now found himself pilloried because he dissents from the theories behind the lock-downs—because he’s looked at the data and found good news.
Dr. Ioannidis estimated that the U.S. fatality rate could be as low as 0.025% to 0.625% and put the upper bound at 0.05% to 1%—comparable to that of seasonal flu. “If that is the true rate,” he wrote, “lock-ing down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial conse-quences may be totally irrational. It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frus-trated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant acciden-tally jumps off a cliff and dies.”
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This news conference is from yesterday. Two docs who are on the front lines using all the numbers collected to date. Respectfully answer some pointed questions from reporters.
Starting to go viral. Must watch video.
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25 minutes ago, BillStime said:
Donald Trump would like you to be upset over Nancy Pelosi's fridge ?
1 minute ago, BillStime said:Pathetic response.
How much have we spent on Trump's golf outings?
Hmmmm.....because the statement I made is true. Pic was taken years ago and is completely irrelevant. Bet you $20k to your or my favorite charity you can’t prove me wrong.
I’ll also stand by my statement that you’re an idiot.
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5 minutes ago, BillStime said:
Donald Trump would like you to be upset over Nancy Pelosi's fridge ?
Idiotic post. Picture was taken years ago. Crazy Nancy had her ice cream episode just days ago in the midst of pandemic.
Got anything else?
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If you can’t see that CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, etc handling of this situation is an obvious indictment that they are pure propaganda machines - you’re a lemming. Just sayin’
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This is great - not a single Lib willing to step up to respond to these latest Biden accusations and how he has responded in the past.
Where are you??? We know you’re watching.
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Uh oh Libs - what to do with your nominee??? (Note: If you’ve only been following CNN you are probably not aware of the below news)?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason.com/2020/03/26/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-me-too-believe-women/%3famp
”When it comes to #MeToo sexual misconduct issues, former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic Party's presumptive 2020 presidential nominee, has made it no secret where he stands: automatically believe women.
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she's talking about is real," said Biden during the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who faced accusations that as a teenager he had assaulted a woman at a party.
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8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
So that's no to illegals voting in 2016? @3rdnlng You don't believe millions of illegals voted in 2016???
Do you also not believe Hillary is a mass murderer? Wow
No, illegal immigrants aren’t allowed to directly vote for the commander-in-chief yet, but in vast numbers they can dramatically alter the Electoral College to favor Democrats for at least a decade because a state’s electoral votes are based on the number of people residing within that state, not the number of citizens present when the Decennial Census is taken.
If a nefarious power grab seems far-fetched, ask yourself this — why are Democrats so intent on blocking the addition of a citizenship question to the 2020 Census?
It is clear the presence of illegal immigrants can bolster a state’s electoral power, even one that is already arctic blue. Something tells me the Democrats’ keen interest in the plight of the much ballyhooed dreamers has a similar ulterior motive as well.
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1 hour ago, dubs said:
It’s easy to say life is full of risks until you find yourself in a car accident, or a plane crash, or slip and fall in the shower, or get in a skiing accident, or get some other illness, or fall off a ladder, or drown while swimming, or get mugged, or choke on your dinner.
Seriously though, what level of risk is acceptable for you?
Made this point in another thread, but WE take a risk and RISK OTHER PEOPLES lives every time we get into a vehicle. Over 40,000 deaths from vehicle accidents in the US in 2018.
Do you consider this risk whenever you get into your car? Do you care about other peoples lives and the fact you may kill them inadvertently (and without discrimination - young, old, pregnant women, entire family, etc).
Think about that next time you hop into a car to go to get an ice cream on a sunny day.
Get the fact we do not want to overcrowd hospitals in hot spots, but YES there is an acceptable level of risk.
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45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
Religious people getting people sick
Music Festival attendees dying
Granted this is a bit dated, 2016/2017, but 201 deaths. Yikes!
Trump Is Just A Terrible President, Totally Unfit For The Job
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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My fervent hope is that left wing alarmists are either out of work on unemployment (which we need to put a shelf life on) or have a business which they must file bankruptcy on. I believe when they are staring down the barrel, they will change their tune and will help advocate for opening the economy.
Having said this, I’m sure Tibs/Q baby are teleworking and making good coin as are the rest of our friends on here pushing for a continued lockdown. Prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
If you are unemployed and making much, much less than prior the lockdown, OR have a biz which is completely shut down with no revenue coming in, I’d honestly be very interested in your perspective on why we need to be in continued lockdown.
Tibs/Q-baby - you makin’ money??