Troll Toll
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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:
Yeah, I'd change the rule so smith schauster was down. Both calls were right - I just don't like the rule, in part because the tackler, like the Bills today, don't have any way to know if the ball carrier is down and if they can continue the play they run the risk, in today's game, of getting called for unnecessary roughness if he IS down.
Whatever.
Play to the whistle. Hopefully a good lesson learned in a lost season, rather than with playoffs on the line.
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Interesting to hear the announcers on MNF talk about how Cam switched this year to higher completion % and lower air yards... and they looked awful. I want Josh to keep playing how he’s playing, I doubt there is a QB playing today that stresses a defense as much as Allen. He has legs and a canon arm that he is going to put to use on every drive.
From a mentality standpoint on defense, you loathe having to defend deep passes and it is demoralizing when they connect. Same goes for when you have everybody covered and the QB rips off a big gain with his legs. A lot of incompletions right now are to guys that aren’t great at tracking and catching deep passes. We get him more reliable guys in that department and we’ll see 400 yard games, not just 300 yard games. If he is throwing for 400 yards at 55-60% I’ll be ecstatic. He’s consistently moving the ball and putting up points, those things trump completion % every time.
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I’d say Josh is an A+ runner because he looks to throw first and makes good judgment on what will yield the most yards. He is forcing defenses to play honest in a way that was sorely lacking in the past 20 years. We watched teams squeeze the line of scrimmage to stop the runs and short passes, knowing we weren’t a threat to beat them in the intermediate and deep throws. If the Bills play their cards right, they could have one of the great downfield offenses in NFL history.
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He looks the same as ever to me. One of the most accurate within 10 yards, but shaky beyond that. I think the Patriots’ window in general is closing more than Brady’s window. Teams look like they are finally catching on to the smoke and mirrors of the Patriots offense that omits downfield throws. I mean it took long enough, right?
Their talent pool is running thin (compared to years past). Guys like Gronk and Edelman don’t have much left and their defense is a far cry from what it was in their early run. They lack the guys that always seem to make a play when the team needs one.
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2 hours ago, The_Dude said:
Ridiculous. Baker Mayfield is a superior QB to Allen and to suggest otherwise is nonsense.
Don’t be so sure. So far in December Josh has accounted for 32 first downs, while Baker is at 20. For all the attention given to completion %, Josh is actually moving the chains with more consistency than Baker as of late.
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Who would you rather gameplan against, Josh Allen or Baker Mayfield? With Allen the whole field is open to be attacked on every single down.
To put the supporting cast in perspective, I bet if we split Josh Allen out at WR he would instantly be our best WR. How many other QBs could you say that about? He’s already our best rusher.
Josh is finding success with probably the worst offensive supporting cast in Buffalo in decades. Get him some tall deep threats and he’ll start throwing for 400 yards. It blows my mind that people can’t see how good he already is. We’ve watched QBs that couldn’t connect on wide open passes for 20 years. We finally have a guy threading needles and people say he isn’t accurate. Do you really want to see him check down to the RB 20 times a game like past QBs to boost his completion % while going 3 and out?
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The most encouraging thing I’m seeing from Allen is that the game appears to have slowed down considerably for him. He is navigating away from the instantaneous pressure and finding guys open downfield. It’s night and day from where he was at the start of the year. Last night we saw what Russell Wilson looks like when Doug Baldwin is out.
Our receivers don’t get the separation you see on other teams. Get Josh some weapons.
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Lose the next 3 games, then win the next 10 years.
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They don’t have a chance to make great catches because Allen makes them too easy. We need Allen to be less accurate so that we can see receivers attempt great catches.
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Get him an O-line and we may see this come to fruition. We’ve seen so many guys who never come close to realizing their potential. Josh is already getting there, flashing ridiculous throws, wild runs, and those wonderlic smarts to learn from his mistakes. In spite of what I and many others would consider one of the worst possible situations for developing a QB, Josh has beaten the odds thus far and seems to have put the toughest learning times behind him. He appears to be at a point where he only needs to make modest improvements to his game. To play the way he did on Sunday (as a rookie) blows my mind.
His vision blows my mind. He not only is willing to attack anywhere on the field, but sees the entire field as well. He is doing an excellent job avoiding pressure and buying time despite being the most pressured QB in the NFL in under 3 seconds. His arm and legs are outstanding AND he is showing signs of developing touch.
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I disagree on both the Foster throw and the Clay throw.
The one to Foster he saw late, but made the throw look a lot easier than it was. I’m not sure any other QB could have hit Foster in stride, recognizing him at the point Josh did, let alone overthrow him. Any other QB would have to really wind up and step into the throw to have a prayer. Josh made it look like an easy throw because of his ridiculous arm. Foster was far enough downfield by the time Josh saw him that I don’t think other QBs would have even attempted the throw. Josh got that thing off fast and didn’t even really step into it, just utterly ridiculous and impressive.
The Clay throw was as good as you can ask for, if he set his feet the defender in the middle of the endzone would have seen where he was going and made a play on it. Running left and throwing right is tough. Josh got a bad break that it didn’t come out cleanly. His running and vision on that play (to find Clay) were superb.
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The best part is the Patriots could’ve signed him and passed.
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I kind of feel for Clay on that pass. I’m not blaming Allen at all, but from Clay’s end I know what it’s like to stand on the other end of a strong armed launch and having a tough time judging where it will come down.
If you’ve ever been there, sometimes the passes from those really strong armed QBs seem like they are going to drop short like Allen’s did, but instead they end up just going and going and wind up over your head. I don’t know if it is just that the wind gets behind it from time to time, but knowing about that possibility can make you hesitant to move up for the ball right away. That won’t happen with 90% of QBs in the NFL because their arm isn’t strong enough, but Allen’s cannon is one you have to be mindful of.
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1 minute ago, Bangarang said:
No, just no.
It’s okay, climb aboard the A-Train now, it’s leaving the station soon.
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3 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
Lol Allen better than Baker. Put that pipe down.
He passed Baker this week. It seems like there are a decent number of people on here who have no clue how incredible the throws and runs were this week (probably clouded by the disappointing outcome). In the coming weeks it will only become clearer that Allen is the best of the class, especially when he beats New England on the road.
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1. Allen
2. Baker
3. Darnold
4. Jackson
5. Rosen
Allen’s development has been on rocket fuel the past couple weeks. He is definitely making the most “wow” plays and he is doing it with the worst supporting cast in the NFL. Looking like a future Super Bowl QB. He is already way ahead of the development curve, sky is the limit.
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It’s good to be different in the NFL. Buffalo has a different makeup than the rest of the league and I’m curious to see what Beane and McDermott have planned for next year. I think the reason a great defense beats a great offense is because a great defense can scheme and shut down pieces of the offense in a way that the offense hasn’t seen all year. Meanwhile the individual defenders are each doing basically the same thing they do every week.
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I was not on the Allen bandwagon at all the night of the draft. I quickly came around in the preseason. I believe he has all the tools to be successful, but my biggest concern is just that he keeps his confidence. It looked like that was eroding from the Packers game through to the time of his injury. In the Jags game it seemed to be back. If he can just hold it together mentally through the trials and tribulations of the NFL QB learning curve he’ll be a star. Anyone nitpicking the Jags game has no appreciation for how awful his supporting cast is on offense. We put up 3 against them in the playoffs last year with a good OL.
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I was a regular on the BBMB and would watch the videos and check out the articles... Now I don’t go there at all. TBD is awesome and way better than BBMB ever was. You have to wonder whether they monitored the traffic to their site before and after shutting down the message board. I have to imagine it fell off a cliff, but I don’t know if they even care. I suppose I miss the board crashing on gameday every week.
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Maybe I’m being a homer, but I feel like we should crush Miami, just like we did last year.
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Karma, he is egging on the fans because he thinks they can’t do anything to him. Then he gets pelted with a beer can.
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I hope they win out with Allen. Even at 9-7 they might still be able to draft the top Center.
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I think the big thing with this stat is it should help keep the defense honest.
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11 minutes ago, no name said:
back when men were men.
Come on, today they all use synthetic drugs to turn them from scrawny beta males to 300 pound whiny divas. The phony muscle from today is way more impressive than real grit.
THE ROCKPILE REVIEW - Can't Beat the Pats Yet
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All they had to do was hold on to him until the whistle though. Not smash him.