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    RD1, Pick 7: Josh Allen QB - Wyoming

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    2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

    I mean Allen alone shows they screwed up royally, but letting go of two 2nd round picks to get him? Wow....I'm still in shock.

    Just read what Rodger Sherman said about the selection. That's pretty much exactly how I feel - https://goo.gl/YMBvx4
     

    "I would consider any team that used a first-round pick on Josh Allen to be the biggest loser of the first round. No good NFL quarterback has ever had statistics as bad as Allen's college stats; his best-case statistical comparables include Brian Griese and Josh McCown.

     

    There are just so many videos of him missing easy passes so badly. Sure, his arm is strong enough that teams should value his potential, but "extremely strong quarterback who may never learn how to throw to receivers" seems to me like a Day 3 pick, not a first-rounder. I remain baffled that he was treated like a top prospect throughout the entire draft process.

     

    But the Bills didn't just draft Allen. They traded up to get him, giving up two second-round picks to move up five spots. That's a massive overpay on any draft value chart. And then the Bills also traded a third-rounder to the Ravens to move up from the 22nd pick to the 16th to select Tremaine Edmunds.

     

    Trading up is the move of a team in win-now mode. The Bills did so--but they selected a quarterback whose supporters even consider him a project. That doesn't jibe. I'm so happy that the Bills got to the playoffs last year, and so confused about their future."

    and go watch the videos with Rich Eisen and Trent Dilfer-- thats all I need to see to at least give this guy a chance.  wooohooo  3 potential starters... gotta love it

    RD1, Pick 7: Josh Allen QB - Wyoming

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    47 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

    We gave away an opportunity to build a deep solid roster and to give away so much for a QB who I believe was the 7th or 8th rated QB in this draft was a huge mistake. The trade up for Edmunds would have been a great move if we didnt already give away both 2nds for Allen. I would have preferred us to stay put and still would have probably been able to get Allen but I'd rather have had Rosen. Hands down the best passer in this draft. But i would have wanted us to use all the picks to build a savage squad and gave away the farm next year for a QB and gave mccarron a chance to prove himself n just to build a team that was a QB away from greatness. I hope Allen develops into a Super Bowl QB but if he doesnt this draft will go down as a huge franchise failure and will set us back for years compared to what we could have done with the arsenal of picks we had

    are you watching the same draft... or are you watching animal planet

    2018 NFL Draft - Day 1 Debrief

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    9 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

    Actually, the people who picked Allen did not pick Maybin over Orakpo, or Wittner over Ngata, or EJ Manuel. Do you even follow your own team?

    Also, you want to dismiss the expertise of people who do this for a living when it comes to picking someone you don't like, yet rely on the expertise of people who do this for a living to quote them in the negative aspects about Allen. Make up your mind.

    Backing you on this one...  when ever a guy is disliked by someone --they will site sources of others who also is negative on that player and ignore sources who are positive. I am in the middle and give him a chance. 

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    Rosen would have died behind our o-line

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    5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

    Swirling winds matter too.

     

    Yeah... I am concerned about his accuracy.  But keeps the "happy feet" down... He will be okay.  Whos to say he can't be the nexy Jim Kelly.  Big, strong, and able to work in WNY.

     

    That was Kelly's big issue, not setting up to plant.

     

    Gotta get the Oline in shape now.

     

     

    I am in the middle.

    I feel the same way as you!

    Allen Over Rosen Reminds Me of

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    8 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

    This is a stupid post.  Go root for another team if you don't like the Allen pick?  Get real  dude.  I m not going to tell you Allen is going to suck, but I would have rather had Rosen and if people are upset about the Allen pick, they don't just have to accept it or find another team.

    only thing stupid is people creating new profiles to protest the pic .. people starting new threads when the topic is in 10-15 other threads .. people talking **** how this pick sucks without giving him  a chance... 

    Allen Over Rosen Reminds Me of

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    5 minutes ago, Gigs said:

    Continue to kiss ass and lock step. I’m allowed to be upset when they trade up for a damn project QB in the first. Sorry man, but you can keep kissing non-existent rings because it makes you feel warm and secure and you don’t have to waste brain power on your own thoughts and feelings, but I’m not a follower and I have my own thoughts. I’ve been watching this team make stupid personnel decision, one after the other, so I’m allowed to be pissed at trading up for a project QB. 

    then go root for another team and dont let the door hit you on the way out... I am not particular happy about the pick but i am not going to whine about it. 

    or better yet-- if you can do a better job then go out and become a GM-- if you wont do that then all i can do is laugh at your posts.

    Bills essentially traded a 1st, 2nd, Watkins and Glenn

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    1 minute ago, finn said:

    This has been said elsewhere and better, but to get it off my chest: How many "big-armed" busts have to be drafted on potential for "experts" to learn? Look no further than E.J. Manuel and J.P. Losman, for god's sake. We all know what comes next: "Give him time, he's still developing"; "It's the scheme, not him"; "he needs a better surrounding cast"; "it's the coordinator!" before finally, five years from now, "Maybe we can get a late-round pick for him from some sucker team."

    woo hooo.. 5 years from now-- we get a late round pick!!! that would be friggin awesome because he would have lasted longer them EJ and many others... again WOOO HOOOO

    What I Don't Understand About Fan Reaction to Allen

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    1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

    I have been on this wonderful board for many, many years. Now, I am reading these posts that are absolutely hating the Allen pick and it is hard to understand why. Almost every season, I was on this board blasting yet another idiotic first round pick by the Bills. For instance:  A #8 (in a stacked draft) on an undersized Donte Whitner? How about a 1st on a half dead Willis McGahee? In 2008 we had a very poor OL. It was awful. We drafted Leotis McKelvin, passing up both Ryan Clady and Branden Albert.

     

    I could go on and on but my point is that fans were generally supportive of these clearly stupid picks. Now, we finally use resources on a big, strong quarterback and most people seem to hate the kid. Why? Because he said stupid things when he was a toddler? Because he went to a small school?

     

    After what seemed like forever, we took a chance on solidifying the most important position on the field. We moved up to make sure we landed a qb with a cannon arm. What is SO freaking bad?

     

    I for one am glad that we did something smart (for a change) in round 1, and welcome this young man to Buffalo.

     

    GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    my opinion is that QB is the most important position and basically Jim Kelly was out last great/good QB.  there will be people in the football media world that will give the Allen pick a low grade and the Allen haters will stand by these people .   

    Beane comment on the tweets

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    10 minutes ago, Sweats said:

    They didn't know that Allen was a racist?

     

    I find that hard to believe in this day and age with all of the technology right at everyone's fingertips that they didnt do their due diligence and plead ignorance that they didnt know that Allen made those tweets..........or are the rest of Bills nation either just that stupid or just that gullible.

     

    i also like to add that so many posters believe they did so much digging on each QB that even they didnt find this out.  It very well could be that many teams didnt find out. I am optimistic that Allen has learned from this and he will become a better man because of this

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