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think he's gonna end up being the best player in this draft

Will you dispute that his athleticism helps receivers get open? I have better things to do than sit here all day and try to convince you guys he can play. I tried to show he has all the tools in my original post. I'm about to close this to replies as the points are getting watered down on both ends. You have a very valid point, but like all the QBs in this draft IMO, he's a project and needs to be coached. Anyone who thinks he's incapable of that has yet to prove that to me. This roster has too many holes now to trade up for a QB unless you guys are fine with sucking for another 2-5 years which I am not. Have a good day and go Bills!

I think he's been too busy trying to prove he's an NFL QB instead of a receiver (a position he's never played) by doing things like working on throwing mechanics, taking snaps under center, etc. to worry about some stupid math test GM's may or may not care about. I get why the score is concerning to you, but for the love of God, find another criticism to make because you've beaten this one into the ground.

https://blogs.usafootball.com/blog/5116/how-louisville-coach-bobby-petrino-maximizes-lamar-jackson-s-running-ability I will say I've never seen Jackson audible or check out of a play, but I think that's because there are so many reads in each play already. There is no doubt whoever is coaching him will need to tailor their offense around his strengths, like any QB in any offense, as Petrino has done. So a 13 means he can't process reads quickly? Have you ever seen the kid play?

You've typed the number 13 at least 13 times in this post. It isn't lost on me I promise, but neither you or Gugny have been able to prove why that means he's a total idiot. When others have cited hall of fame QB's (who don't have the athletic tools of Lamar) who scored poorly on the test, all you say is THAT DOESN'T MATTER. Then you insult THEIR intelligence. Why? Who hurt you?

I've been following the website for years. Just recently decided to start posting. I saw someone, thought it was you, criticize his interviewing skills. Eluding to your multiple "dumber than a box of rocks" accusations. I don't think it's fair to base that off of the wonderlic alone. It's a f'ing standardized test that has nothing to do with football. Out of all the 'unsuccessful' QB's in the past who scored lower than a 16, I guarantee you none of them have the tools or athleticism Lamar has. All I'm saying.

i don't agree that it isn't a complex offense, I do agree, however with his point that Petrino hasn't exactly bred successful NFL QB's in the past.

Your argument this entire time has been if a quarterback scores poorly on the wonderlic, or has a southern slang in interviews, he can't play quarterback. The hypocrisy is mind numbing.

Way to back up your point with examples. Lets bring in another Harvard QB! Isn't there a guy from Princeton in the draft?

Because he scored poorly on a 15 minute standardized test? With that logic let's make it a requirement that you have to post your SAT/ACT score with every reply. Doesn't matter that he ran the most complicated offense of all QB prospects (the same Erhardt/Perkins offense Daboll plans to run), ran the read option to perfection and has never had a disciplinary problem.

I can't see a team like Cleveland giving up that much for a next year pick after going 0-16 and obviously having holes all over that roster.

I hope to God this isn't true

Kurt Warner bagged groceries

All valid points/criticisms. Thanks for the reply. He is active in the Boynton Beach, FL community (his hometown) in mentoring at risk youth, He's a respectful guy in interviews. He's also certainly not afraid to be a vocal leader in the locker room, I don't think any prospect is ready to be a leader of an NFL team from day 1, I also don't think every elite professional athlete has always been outspoken or even great at interviews. As long as our guy is a hard worker and represents the team and community well, I'll cheer and support them.

You just killed your argument by comparing Lamar Jackson tape to EJ Manual's. Wish some of you guys could get over stereotyping QB's, or at least not be so obvious about it. First everyone compares him to Tyrod now EJ...it makes no sense they're all completely different players. You're doing nothing but showing you don't watch any football outside of Bills games by making these comparisons which is fine, but it doesn't mean you can look at a QB and say it won't work based off of his appearance.

Strictly as a passer no. If he can't run he's definitely not even a 1st rd pick, but he can. Also I disagree with the area code passer thing, that just makes no sense. Check out his passes on Youtube, a lot of his touchdown passes are in the perfect spot right on the money. Part of a WR getting open is that you have to throw them open.

Have you watched any of his highlights? He's definitely not afraid to take chances. He just can also choose to take chances with his feet as well and is 100x better at it than Tyrod. I've said it before and I'll say it again, comparing Tyrod to Lamar is lazy, their games don't match up at all. You're free to disagree all I'm saying is check the tape.

I can't just buy that Darnold or Rosen are a better passer than Jackson. Darnold turned the ball over way more than Jackson and Rosen also proved to be just as inconsistent and, while still mobile, is obviously much less mobile than Jackson, who has freakish ball carrier vision. Allen I haven't seen play enough to be honest, but I find it hard to believe he is worththe project. Plenty of big arm QBs have come through the draft and done nothing. He couldn't even really win in whatever conference at Wyoming. I did however watch a lot of PAC-12 football just because I wanted to see these guys play and dear God are those defenses bad. I could definitely get excited about Mayfield and would even get excited about the other guys if they slid, but I truly believe now is not a time to gamble it all on trading up for a QB. The Jets set the price too high. Let them make that gamble their roster still looks worse than ours anyway. Hell I'd even be ok with Rudolph. I just can't be convinced any of these QBs are that far apart from each other, but I think Jackson makes the most sense for our team (ran the same Eackhardt-Perkins offense Daboll ran at Bama) and has the most potential to be special. Again, I'm a Louisville fan, I'm biased, but I wouldn't want us to take him if I didn't think it would work. I tried to if you read the original post, with video to back it upnot to say I'm smarter than you

Anybody we draft I believe is going to be a project. Jackson is capable of doing everything you just listed. I think you're assuming he's never going to feel comfortable in throwing in the pocket. P.S. this wasn't supposed to be a post about what we think McBeane is going to do. I'll leave you all to speculate that. I just think he is the best QB in this draft and is worth our consideration at 12 or 22. While I do think we need to draft a couple offensive lineman and probably a running back, don't act like our running game sucks. Losing Glenn and Wood hurts, but we have the capital to fill the holes. Which is also why we absolutely should not trade up to draft a quarterback. If we're going to throw someone in there with a bad offensive line like you say we have, I'd rather have someone mobile who can avoid hits. Hey man, you stated your case well. I can take it. I probably did over-value our O-line, we have had one of the best rushing attacks the past 2-3 years, but losing Glenn and Wood hurts a lot. Which is why I, and the article you posted about Wilson, states you're better off having a running qb in these scenarios. In the process of his development there might be some bumps in the road, but I truly believe he will get better and better as a passer as he's shown through his college career.

I've seen interviews where Beane has talked about his ideal quarterback. Just because I recently joined this site doesn't mean I don't know what's going on. Beane strikes me as a guy that's open to new exciting ideas, especially if they don't cost a lot of capital. I get what you're saying about a dynamic qb running an offense. It's risky, but just as many if not more pocket passers fail at this as dynamic ones do. We already have a promising and a slightly maybe probably not promising pocket passer on the roster. Why not roll the dice on one of the most electrifying college football players in recent memory and see if he can develop into a pocket passer under these players and coaching staff?

Imagine if a 'dynamic' qb like Wilson had the offensive line and running game we do. Not saying Jackson is Wilson, but Wilson was also a 4th round pick. I'll take a risk on an unpredictable, inconsistent qb who has MVP potential. That's what Lamar is.

Just trying to get BillsMafia on board! Notice how many of those throws are his 2nd or 3rd progressions.

Well put. It is true an organized play is only supposed to last about 6-12 seconds. He definitely does need to develop the quick decision making part of the game to become great, but his agility and ball carrier vision are something to marvel at. Doesn't mean he has to play another position. The summary of this article based on everybody's collective opinion about him seems to be if he gets the right coaching and support he has super bowl winning, hall of fame potential...that's just what I'm seeing you all say!

Every blog site needs a troll. What if the QB is the best playmaker/runner on the field? Makes the job a lot easier.