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Fred Clause

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  1. 2 hours ago, donbb said:

     

    The Jets will have more. The Jets also seem to be able to identify talent in the trenches which the Bills do not.

    The a Jets will soon have to start paying their players and the cap will disappear quickly they have been rebuilding 2 years more and those rookie deals are going to start to end very soon...

  2. 1 hour ago, Billsflyer12 said:

    So there have not been enough moves, games and actions for me to have an opinion on their plan?  If so, how many moves, games and actions must they complete for me to have ANY opinions on their plan?

     

    Speaking of hyperbolic, there is a 10 page thread on if you hate the Bills, why are you here.  So opinions that don’t fall into proper Bills messaging and fandom make us not supporters.  I think the hyperbolic statements come largely, not completely, from Bills blinder type fans.

    Well actually having the plan executed would be a Start. Judging results before it’s fully implemented is quite foolish I would say.,,

  3. Just now, Wayne Arnold said:

    I'm not watching but based on Twitter Darnold is the greatest quarterback to ever grace the planet and we're all blessed by God to be witnesses. Is that true?

    90% of his throws are 5 yard uncontested passes, his receivers actually get seperation. His last TD throw should have been intercepted but still he looks in control and for the most part is making good decisions..

  4. 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    So many double standards here.  If EJ Manuel completes 6/15 passes for 74 yards, folks would be calling him a bum.

     

    it sucks because a bunch of fans knew how garbage this offense was all offseason.  I couldn’t even get mad yesterday (I did watch the game on the bench so that helped ?).  It was so predictable.  We have no talent on offense besides McCoy.  Now because our “starting” qb has possible the worst 3 starts in nfl history, we have to play a guy who has no business playing yet and completely crush his confidence.  The Bills are an absolute joke at developing qbs.

    The joke is your observations, comparing EJ to Allen and not seeing the difference is bad enough. But saying the Bills can’t develop Allan after less than 2 Quarters  of relief with a pathetic surrounding cast is laughable, makes you look ignorant...

    6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

    Do you agree they played the same way the first half?

    The receivers never got seperation the whole game, nothing changed except one qb actually got his passes into a catchable zone while the other couldn’t...

  5. 22 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

    Allen fans: explain to me what you loved about watching this? I just see a lot of fastballs outside the strike zone. 

    You obviously see what you want to see, but you know what you don’t see? Wide receiver seperation. On a lot of the  throws that miss, if they were tighter, there is a good chance of a interception. Watch Brady, watch almost every other Qb in this league and what you won’t see is almost every freakin pass has to be in a tight window because their receivers can’t get open to save their lives. It’s unbelievable how little of seperation this group gets on every single play...

  6. 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    What can you say?  They brought in McCarron.  Peterman did well all preseason.  Then he laid an egg yesterday.  You can only go by what you see.  And Peterman was doing well.

     

    Wouldn't surprise me if they sign a guy like Morre and cut Peterman this week. Allen's timetable just got moved up

    I got ridiculed for saying it last week, but Peterman only had two drives in the first preseason game against number one defenders. He never faced real pressure from top defenders in any of his play after that. It was a recipe for disaster as well as the rotation that went on for the Qb competition. A number one should have been chosen sooner with the experience of the contestants being so young. That being said, most qb’s would struggle with the inefficiency of the o-Line and the inability of the receivers to gain seperation as the Bills displayed yesterday. But Even I was surprised at how poor Peterman performed.

  7. 1 hour ago, Skins Malone said:

    Well i do believe it was certainly their plan to bring Allen along slowly.  There were things Allen needed time to fix and still does to a degree.  Im not sure that is particularly about not about wanting him to start but just being smart about fixing things that need working on.  As excited as i may about Allen im also interested to see how Nat does this year.  Either way.  Very good discussion.

    Certainly hope Peterman can hold the keys till they think Allen is ready, or they can field a competitive offensive line...

  8. 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

    Interesting conspiracy theory but what about McCarron, why bring in a guy and pay him that much just to skew it a toward someone else?

    Turned out he stunk, he was supposed to be the bridge, but he proved he was not even better than Peterman... I don’t think they cared between the two of them McCarron never stepped up and separated himself...

  9. 58 minutes ago, Skins Malone said:

    This notion this isnt true.  This whole protect Allen thing.  If Allen had come out in the third preseason game and lit it up with the starters(yes the o line was ****)...and looked like a starting QB he would be starting.  Peterman beat him out its that easy.  I would have no problem with Allen starting and maybe he should be but can you honestly say he beat out Peterman for the job?  And if Allen couldnt clearly beat out the "worst QB" in the league as you say what does that say about Allen?

    Peterman was the Qb who was protected in the pre-season. He only had two drives against starting d’s. One TD and one Int. was the result. The plan was never to start Allen,  they made it look like Perterman was the logical choice, but it was never a fair competition by design. It will be much easier to play Allen if Perterman fails. But if they had started Allen and he struggled the pressure to pull him would have been immense, his development would be delayed.  If Peterman is able to succeed, it buys more time for Allen to absorb the process before facing the fire. But anyone who thinks that Peterman faced anything like Allen faced against Cinci is not being honest, the players and pressure was different and so was the play calling. 

    Im not saying I’m against Peterman starting, nor do I want him to fail. But I don’t think they ever wanted Allen starting this season, the proof is how they ran the pre season reps, during practice & during games. Maybe they know this O-line needs time to gel and hopefully Peterman buys them that time....

  10. 29 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

    We should all be good little obedient boys and love everything the team does or else your fanhood gets questioned!

     

    Didn't somebody say something about fascists earlier?

    Nobody says you have to agree lockstep with the ownership and management, but when your takes are hot garbage, (Not yours in particular) don’t expect the board to blow sunshine up your butt or be angry when it doesn’t happen and double down on your stupidity...

  11. 33 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

    well  nancy....if nate faces cincy and gets the ball out in under 2 seconds, maybe that pass rush from...omg...the bengals, may not have looked so fierce......

     

    oh and btw, mcd shuffled olineman in and out and there was no cohesiveness. it was planned that way according to mc coach so as to see who could play different spots on the line.....but still...nate would smokedem?

    Um Tom Brady one of the fastest averaged about 2.5 Seconds to get a pass off. So instead of trying to be the cool assclown, How about you use realism in your analysis, Nate while under pressure at San Deigo certainly smoked um???

  12. 17 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said:

    Kinda sounds like something a fan of an opposing team would say. Weird. 

     

    Who needs enemies when the fans of your own team hope for the worst. Eesch.... 

    Show me what was wrong with the statement???? You can’t. It’s pretty obvious, this team isn’t going anywhere this year. Should we let Allen take his lumps now or later? I don’t care if Peterman starts if that’s what’s best for Allen, Peterman will never be the long term answer. He may have had a good preseason, but he never faced the pressure Josh saw against Cinci, since the San Diego game. So to say he would perform any better against that is just a guess. In the end I hope Allen gets 4-6 starts this year, so next year when the rebuild gets kicked up, he has a good feel for the game.

  13. 17 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

    bla,bla,bla....how'd josh do against the first team cincy d?  you really wanna go there.

     

    he wouldn't have time to heal from ass kickin no.1,  to take one in front of the home crowd week 2.

     

    some of you guys seem to think this is the wwe. yeah he's a big boy but he got a pre season body slam last week. i don't wanna see suggs try to up that.  start nate and win the game. if nate plays 27-17.  come home against a crowd that can be heard from another planet get revenge.......and off to game 3. that's my process...

    And at what time during the preseason did Peterman face the kind of Pressure Allen saw against Cincinnati? Yeah I thought so, not since San Diego’s, we all saw how that went...

  14. 22 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

    Peterman.

    Laugh all you want but Peterman is playing the best right now.  And it's not close.

     

    Allen will take over at some point this season, but your best shot to beat the Ravens is with Peterman

    One drive against a vanilla 1st string D and the rest of his preseason success was against 2nd and 3rd string. It’s not going to be pretty...

  15. 18 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

     

    Agreed.  Peterman makes the line look better by making better pre-snap reads and faster decisions & throws.  

     

    But I also agree with Lombardi that Peterman shouldn't start because the line is horrible.  He should start because he's done the best job behind that horrible line.  

     

    I began this year saying that AJ is the present, Allen is the future, and Peterman is the odd man out.  But I don't know how we can ignore the preseason.  So far the offense works best when Peterman is under center.   

     

    Allen, on the other hand, has shown potential.  I think he ought to be the starter once he shows he can consistently make quick, good decisions with the ball.   That may be later this season but it's not today.

    Peterman has had one successful drive against a vanilla 1st string defense. A lot of people are going to be shocked come opening day if he starts vs Baltimore.

  16. 8 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

     

    Not poor at all.  Open your eyes.  This isn't some hidden crap.

    Open your mind, if you think Peterman would have done any better, we saw what happened to AJ. Only one of his throws came from a clean pocket, he rarely had more than 1.5 Seconds before the pressure was in his face, had contact in under 1.3 Seconds on one play. Tell me again how you were able to judge a performance under those conditions. Yes lazy and pathetic assessment , worthless, baseless crap.... 

  17. 6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

    Allen had a bad game on Sunday.  The O-Line was horrendous at times, but 2-3 of those sacks wouldn't have been issues if he got the ball out faster.   Problem is you dont have the coaches tape, so I have no clue if the routes were open on those plays.  The entire offense was bad, but it doesn't remove the blame from Allen.   If thats McCarron, Tyrod, or even Peterman in the same scenario we let them share the blame.  Allen didnt play well. 

     

    I have never been a big "sit and learn" fan, I dont know what sitting on your butt trying to look through the eyes of someone else really does for someone.   Yes you can see what they did in certain scenarios, but unless you're out there how can you really know.  

     

    If Allen isn't ready to start, is he all the sudden ready if someone goes down?   Does he learn a thing being the number 3?  And if he is the number 2 why pay McCarron 5 million dollars this year to be your emergency QB?

     

    I have faith in McDermott, but I really hope he has a plan here.  You cant spend the year going back and forth between Quarterbacks.  Once Allen is in, he needs to stay in until its obvious he is or isnt the answer.  Until then they need to draft a quarterback in some mid round every year until they know they have someone who is ready.  If not they will be out of a job quickly. 

    The review of the plays showed only one was his fault, possibly two, but the review did not show if any receivers were open. Many plays he had under 2 Seconds before contact . The longest play he had, he hit butter fingers Benjamin in the hands and he dropped it. So that’s pretty much a false narrative. The play calling was atrocious for the pressure, but maybe they don’t want to start him so they let him suffer and make it look like he’s not ready. If they really wanted to see what he could do they would have implemented plays that slowed down or avoided the pressure.

    2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

    This was McCarron's job since March.  The injury may have put Peterman to start the year, but McCarron will take over pretty quick.

     

    Allen is so far away.  It will be interesting to see if even next year he is ready.  A lot of maturing needs to happen with Allen.

    Very poor assessment. Lazy at best...

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