Fred Clause
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27 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:
I think they would have chosen him over Darnold if they had the opportunity.
Possibly, possibly so.
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2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:
I understand the context but if you haven't seen it at the college level what makes you think it's going to magically happen at the pro level? There was little to no film of him throwing the ball to analyze. There were guys from bigger school with more tape out there to look at. I still hope Allen becomes what we need him to be, I just never did understand what it was they fell in love with other than a big arm and a positive attitude.
Maybe I wrong, but I thought they said they went to watch him play a few times his Sr. Year. He hasn’t been playing the position as long as the others and was considered more malleable. I don’t know if he will turn out, but they did do extensive research on him, this wasn’t a flash in the pan pick because Darnold was gone...
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1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said:
I want to know how a guy who never threw for more than 250yds consistently in college is somehow going to do it in the pros. I want to believe he can be developed. But the odds are against him and the Bills to do it.
When I watched Wentz his rookie year he was throwing the ball and making mistakes but you could see he was figuring things out. He looked like he knew what he was doing just hadn't figured out how to do it consistently yet. I don't see that from Allen yet.
If you are making this point, you didn’t pay attention to his college team which was run first and put him in a lot of bad situations of third and long. They were never a winning team before he came and with limited talent he had them well above 500. Context matters...
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1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:
Just watched the game over again (offense). It further confirmed my initial thought that Allen played much better than the stats showed.
The Watt sack was bad - 100% his fault. Two or three misfires (first pass attempt to Clay and deep throw on first possession down left sideline to Benjamin) as all quarterbacks have. He still has an issue of not trusting what he sees and holding the ball too long rather than just rocking-and-firing.
But a bigger problem this game was conservative play-calling and receivers not being talented enough to get YAC and/or make plays on the ball down the field.
The bomb down the field that was called back thanks to Captain Dimarco was a thing of beauty. There aren't many quarterbacks able to juke JJ Watt out of his shoes and get away from him then throw a completion 40+ yards on the field on the run.
Allen was pretty streaky in college so I really would've liked to have seen how he did after that beautiful completion to Benjamin. Maybe the light went on and he finally decided to let 'er rip. But we'll never know.
Here's hoping The Franchise is healthy enough to play at home against the Bears.
If he puts the Benjamin pass on target, it’s most likely intercepted. Going long with the slowest receiver we have is foolish, he was double covered and he doesn’t fight for the ball. The Watts sack was his fault, I thought he could have stepped up on the other 3rd down sack if he would have trusted the line. By far his best appearance since Minnesota, definitely improving...
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3 hours ago, Fadingpain said:
Filler?
Getting Bridgewater on this team and running with him until he breaks is as good an idea as I can think of at this point....while still drafting another QB next year, hopefully with a very high drafting position.
More brilliant advice, and how many games would you give that draft pic to develop before you call to cut him and draft another?
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2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:
All QBs are now allowed to have a poor first throw. And no, sorry, but he had many throws off the mark.
Not in that game.. now you're making things up.
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34 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:
There was a throw in the Houston game that has made me reevaluate my postion on Allen. It was a slant across the middle, receiver open, no pressure, ball thrown in the dirt 3-5 yards short of the receiver. For a tall QB probably one of the easiest throws to make. His long ball has been way way off the mark as well. If he cant get his accuracy fixed then I am afraid we will have missed on another first round QB.
That was his first throw of the game , he was on target after that, stop being stupid...
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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:
Exactly what I said.
You are both F’ing idiots. Both hits were leading with the helmet, the hit to the elbow was way past when he threw the ball. It was considered dirty from the start. It amazes me how dumb people will speak when they don’t like a player...
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17 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:
Manning was making throws all over the place his rookie season, amazing throws. He had a bunch of ints but you could see he was something special. I have seen nothing from Allen so far other than 2 quarters of 1 game. If I had to make a wager, I would say that he is not even on the team at the end of his rookie contract.
Dumbest post of the year, good job ?
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Just now, MAJBobby said:
Was Manning possibly facing a surgery that would end this season and 2019 season?
Not the point, and his injury happened on a play where most of the fools on this board complained he wasn’t doing or wasn’t able to do, standing in the pocket, delivering a fantastic strike down field. Injury could have happened to anyone, and was a cheap shot that should have been penalized. Point is, you would have cut Manning as a rookie, no denying that. The position that demands the most patience for developing and you don’t understand that...
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3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
And as I said is showing NOTHING to for me to say yeah have our QB. Now if you are going to miss all of 2019 as well you better decide to get a QB again.
Good thing you weren’t with the colts, you would have cut Manning by the 7 th game ...
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5 minutes ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said:
He'd still be excellent even in Buffalo IMO.
Ok, throwing the ball to who?
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7 hours ago, thebandit27 said:
There is a world of difference.
Talk to any NFL veteran, and they'll tell you that the offseason in which you learn the most is that between your 1st and 2nd year.
Why? Because it's actually your first offseason. When you come into the league as a rookie, you've been practicing, training, and competing from August to December as a college player. When that ends, you immediately begin training for the draft, which is a 3-1/2 month run of constant workouts, interviews, visits, studying, etc. After the draft, you have about 2 weeks to get your bearings before you start rookie camp. After that, you've got a week before OTAs begin, and that's when the off-season basically ends for NFL veterans. By the time a rookie completes their first NFL season in December, they've been in-season for about 17 consecutive months (and that's if they don't make the playoffs).
Are you going to seriously claim that there's not a big difference between having the opportunity to get a full 4 months away from the game to train in an NFL strength/conditioning program and reset yourself versus being on a 17-month go-go schedule? Let alone claim that spending a full season not having to play while getting tutored by one of the best offensive coaches in the league is the same as what Allen is getting now--having to learn on the fly from a guy that's been a statistically-poor OC in every NFL stop?
Very well thought out post, unlike most of the other drivel on here.?
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
This post kind of proves my point. Allen was 56.2 lower than everyone there by a lot.
What a moron, that’s one or two passes out of 40 and doesn’t take in account the offense run. It’s as useless overall as your posts are.
45 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:Yes he is. His flaws are obvious. And the numbers don't lie.
Qb Rating
Darnold. 83.7
Rosen. 75.5
Mayfield 72.8
Allen. 61.8
....Darnold's wr unit are not much different than ours.
His line and receiving options are better and he has played against weaker opponents. He also was considered more pro ready. So again you and people like you are clueless.
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2 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
So coaching and teammates has been the problem since Kelly retired? Or is it more likely we just haven't had a good QB in that time span? Again, I'm not making excuses. A good QB will rise to the top regardless of circumstances. Sure coaching and personnel can help. But you either have it or you don't as well. Let's just find a guy that has it. Enough of the excuses.
You need to pull Sammy’s rib out of your butt, Allen had the least experience and was in the worst situation for learning in College. Everyone including draft experts said he was raw and needed a year or two to develop. And here you and other morons are calling him a bust after 5 games. He’s also in the worse position talent wise and has had the most difficult schedule. But hey your right, the kids toast...You would go far as a GM LOL .
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3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
It's far too early in his career to make a call on what he'll ultimately be. I just want him to gain as much experience as possible this season with the team building up the supporting cast around him next year.
Exactly, that’s why everybody screaming bust and unhappy about the record is being ignorant. First off this year was never going t be about competing now, 50+ million reasons saw to that. It was to be about developing Allen and rebuilding the defense. I imagine The offense was not supposed to be this bad, but if they were looking for better picks next year, maybe it was. I think McCarron not being what they thought he was is the biggest thing that went wrong with the plan, this caused Allen to be inserted much sooner than expected. Unfortunately the BS hit to his elbow may slow his progression this year, it may also give him a chance to take a breath, step back an d review film, and study what has been happening so far. If it’s just a few weeks, it will be ok.
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23 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
No one should be shocked that he has a steep learning curve or take it as an affront when it's stated he's behind the other rookie QBs who were drafted in the top ten.
They shouldn’t, he was considered the least pro ready with the most upside. Where people go wrong are the ones who say he is already a bust, or that he is not improving. It’s easy to see the baby steps he has been taking from his first start, and as long as he keeps this rate of growth by the beginning of next year if they get him a few true weapons the future should be bright.
I saw one third and long yesterday where if he would of stayed in the pocket he probably could have thrown for the first down, instead he tried to run and got sacked. The pocket was collapsed and he may not had a good throwing lane, just enough Seperation on Jones that a veteran Qb should have made the play. Beyond that, the improvements are obvious, he lookedat times at progressions and avoided turn overs. Nothing spectacular, but on course for a rookie playing before his time...
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1 hour ago, Epstein's Mother said:
The thing that has worried me the most so far with Allen is his lack of accuracy on short passes. That being said his throws on crossing routes have been mostly very accurate and a few have been amazing. I'd like to see him throw a deep ball within 5 yards of a receiver but I haven't seen too many if any close calls on deep balls.
Most of the deep balls they have been having him make have gone to Benjerman, who is never open and is always blanketed by two players. Most would’ve ended up interceptions as Benjamin never fights for the ball.
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1 hour ago, jrober38 said:
I like QBR.
Any way you slice it Allen has been junk this year.
So have your posts, but unfortunately we can’t rely on an injury to make you go away...
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36 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:
Why would weapons matter? Once teams get tape on him, he’s done. Just like Mahomes.
Just cause you don’t like Allen, doesn’t mean you have to post like a loser....or maybe you do...
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5 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:
What is the tape going to tell you about Mahomes? Do you think defenses have some secret weapon they can pull out?
If a QB can throw with tremendous accuracy and anticipation down the field, it's over. No defense can shut down that down.
He scored 23 points against an elite defense last week. He torched the Pats for 40 points yesterday on the road.
Funny how we're expecting all the young guns like Trubisky, Mahomes and Goff to cool off with "tape"
And you thought Geoff was a bust his first year too, so who cares till Allen gets some time to figure things out and gets some real weapons...
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4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
The Chiefs Offense looks every bit the equal of the 99 Rams. I agree that we should've taken a QB that year, but the smart money was Watson there. Mahommes would have been a bust here - he wouldn't have had the veteran QB leadership, Hall of Fame coach, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelce, OLine, etc. that he has in KC. Mahommes has looked excellent so far, but Hill, Hunt, and Kelce were wrecking people with Alex Smith at the helm.
Hill/Hunt made Mahommes look better than he played today
It is ok. Might want to bone up on the history of that country you pretend to care about so much.
Maybe you should leave this country if you think it was so bad. Your take on this country is as bad as your takes on the Bills...
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20 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:
Yea so dominant that he had to get moved to the slot and get used as a good route runner with good hands utilized by a good veteran qb. As of right now Larry fitz isn’t even a top 30 wr if you were going to start a team and play for one year and could pick from all the wr talent in the league.
Yet he is better than anything in our roster, so your point is foolish, nice try though...
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3 hours ago, BillsFan17 said:
I truly enjoy the hyperbole that other QBs would look the same if not worse in our offense.
1) Baker Mayfield is playing on arguably the worst team in NFL history who have Landry and a bunch of young unproven talent.
2) Sam Darnold was traded up for, but the Jets still finished with the sixth overall pick. They are not a quality team and Sam is playing extremely well for them.
3) Josh Rosen is on a team many have felt were worse than the Bills, and yet is playing very good ball.
10-25 he is playing awesome ?????
The Rosen Era Has Begun in Arizona
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Sounds like you’re not a Bills fan Moose Knuckle, why are you even on the board? What’s the matter, your narrative not working out?