Zebrastripes
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1 minute ago, reddogblitz said:
who was throwing them the football before they got there?
That's my point. Sub par qb play leads to sub par wr play. A good qb can make a wr look better than they are. I know there are some exceptions to this but as a norm a good qb can make a wr perform much better.
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1 minute ago, reddogblitz said:
Goff's team has a passing game guru as HC/OC. Hotrod's had a ball control IF and OC. I think that figures in somehow.
As to the bolded, It takes 2 baby.
As far as it taking 2 what about all the guys that didn't produce with teams until they had Brady as their qb.
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2 minutes ago, grb said:
The Bills put much less offensive talent on the field with Taylor each successive season. A lot of this was injuries, but some of it was indifference with the players they let walk. It's interesting to see how far people go to ignore this fact, which is a 500lb gorilla sitting in the room. Recently I had multiple exchanges with another poster over Taylor's deep game. He :
- Admitted Taylor had a excellent deep ball in '15
- Admitted Taylor's deep threat sat half the '16 season injured.
- Admitted Taylor's deep threat played w/ a severe injury when he was back on the field (after first trying to claim he was "cured" when he came back)
- Admitted Taylor didn't have a deep threat in '17
So the fact TT's deep game got worse from '15 to '16' to '17 is perfectly understandable in light of the above?
Not a chance. This guy claimed that was all a coincidence. Taylor "regressed".
It must have required an effort to ignore the common sense of it, but that was the conclusion he wanted......
Not gonna disagree with any of that. Problem is Tyrod had far greater issues then just his deep ball. Plus I am a firm believer in the idea that the qb makes the wr not the other way around. Just look at what Robert Woods did this year. Tyrod had both Woods and Watkins on his team just like Goff did and look at the difference in production from them two.
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2 hours ago, Young34 said:
Please stop with yards only garbage. In Brady's first three seasons as a starter, he threw for 14 games under 200 yards. This clearly isn't a sole metric to judge off of.
Edit: To be clear, his first three entire seasons as a starter. This isn't counting Brady's first year when he took over mid-season, which would have a higher count of low yardage games.
Everyone that has argued yards doesn't matter doesn't take into account the fact Tyrod regressed from season 1 to season 3 as a starter. Every example people use such as Brady and Brees is nonsense because both of these guys showed steady improvement from year 1 and beyond. Brees did have the hiccup in year 2 as a starter but showed steady improvement in year 3 and beyond.
Plus let's take a look at average passing yards per game from then until now. I bet there is a difference.
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23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Ah, ok, so now we're into what we see on the field when he throws or doesn't throw. I'm all on board with that as a metric.
(in his 3rd year in the league, Brees was held to have regressed, as seen by the metric you cited - he had no games under 100 yds his previous year, his 1st as a starter)
Look at brees' 3rd year as a starter not his 3rd year in the league. If you want to argue years in the league tyrod has regressed over years 5 through 7 where as Brees was on a steady increase in production from his 3rd year and beyond. Tyrod has gone backwards since year one as a starter Brees has not. How many qbs still make it on a NFL roster after a decrease in production for 3 straight years with already being average at best?
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59 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I'm really tired of this argument. Per you, Drew Brees should have been thrown out of the league after 2003: 3 games under 100 passing yards and 4 more under 200 yds (an additional game that just squeaked over that benchmark 202), out of only 11 games started. Average of only 191 yds passing. Brees clearly wasn't doing enough to stay on an NFL team. Ship the bum out of town. Next year, pro bowl, "comeback player of the year". Two years later, moves to N'Orleans and the rest is history.
I'm not arguing that the Bills should have kept Tyrod nor that he's Drew Brees, just that the criteria cited are (based on history) not good benchmarks for whether or not a guy is capable of quality QB play in the NFL.
Biggest difference here is tyrod had 3 years and regressed over them 3 years. He was afraid to make throws or just didnt see open guys. I should have led with that. Brees improved from one year to the next. If brees continued the ame path as the year you stated he would have been out of the league but he didn't he improved where as tyrod did not improve.
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Two games with under 100 passing yards and 6 more with under 200 really isn't doing enough to stay on a NFL team.
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2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:
But NOT cruel & unusual.
I thought you were just talking about putting the shooter to death because you said this
8 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said:The tough guys want to control it the same way the dirtball shooter was trying to control his life.
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On 5/22/2018 at 3:00 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:
Yep. Living off of pure emotion. Life sucks @ times, deals bad hands. The tough guys want to control it the same way the dirtball shooter was trying to control his life.
Fail.
Our Founders thought differently.
Our founders also allowed public executions held in the town square.
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17 minutes ago, H2o said:
Yes, in a round about way by saying you can kind of see teams looked like they were going by it and that it was in circulation among NFL scouts.
Yep its because PFF has many more resources available to them then any NFL team could ever dream of having lol.
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They're out of their minds if they think Edmunds is a reach.
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57 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said:
It's sad when we have to talk about trying to acquire mediocre receiving talent because the bills have done such a crap job targeting skill position talent.
That falls on beane and McDermott.
Or Beane and mcdermott realize poor qb play leads to poor wr play. Maybe they think they will get better qb play this year which will lead to better wr play and we will all forget about needing a "star" wr.
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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Just get this guy out of the league. There is no room for this kind of stuff.
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4 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said:
5. Trent Murphy - I think he will be boom or bust. He is a PED guy coming off injury. If the Bills had added a DE in the second or third round I would say Murphy would be more than likely cut. At this point it will probably be 50/50 as the DE depth is terrible.
This dude is going to be a lock to make the roster. Just looking at his contract alone says he is guaranteed a spot.
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3 hours ago, TheBeane said:
The only thing that really won us a few games was great coaching.
Turnovers created by the defense won us quite a few games last year. People are predicting us to be so bad because teams can't rely on creating as many turnovers as the Bills did year in and year out.
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9 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:
the only line i get in is the jumping through table line
I imagine you use your head to break your fall as well.
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30 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said:
dodged a bullet
There is no way you can say we dodged a bullet before any of these guys have even hit the field.
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3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
The Sabres have a long way to go before they can be considered relevant again. I’m not even sure the league knows they’re still playing.
Kind of like Pittsburgh and Chicago did. Then they had a couple high draft picks then won the lottery. The rest is history.
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Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
....hope you're right.....AHL Amerks' Ullmark was thought to be the future but took huge step backward, giving up 16 goals in 3 games of playoffs........
Ya he did have a rough series but I think he will bounce back from that and be a full time NFL guy next season.
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1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...need some solid goaltending as well.............
I know I'm in the minority on this but i dont think Lehner was our problem. Our defensive zone play was horrific and our defenseman couldn't pass to save their lives. Lehner did allow some cheap goals but overall I don't think he was the problem it was our defense and puck possesion.
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1 hour ago, Carter said:
It will be similar, they missed, missed again.
Our fate remains
I wish I had your magic power to see the future. To state the Bills have missed on a prospect before he has ever taken a snap at the NFL level is pure ignorance.
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8 hours ago, Fadingpain said:
Just stop.
You have no idea who Beane wanted and he may have had to settle for Plan C.
It still doesn't change the fact that he put his career in the line by moving up and going to grab Allen. Call me crazy but I don't think many people are going to put their careers on the line for plan c as you suggest. As much as everyone is bashing on Allen, Beane moving up to 7 to get him I think shows he was Beanes guy. Beane had a shot at everyone besides Mayfield. So at the very least Allen was plan B, but I truly feel as though he was Beanes plan A. It was reported for weeks leading up to the draft the Bills were in love with Allen.
Just for the record I wanted Rosen.
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Just now, Rebel101 said:
Ok so we sit still until the cardinals trade up for Allen and then move up to take Rosen we get a better and player give up less...how you figure that doesnt work.
Just stop. Beane knew who he wanted and went and got him. He didn't want to settle for someone's sloppy seconds.
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2 hours ago, QBorBust2018 said:
Hopefully the dolphins or patriots select this bust ! ??
Don't start a thread with a ridiculous topic then run and hide. At least defend your position on the topic, otherwise it just looks like you have no clue on what you're talking about.
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Tyrod Taylor: I still feel that I’d done more than enough to stay
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I actually looked these up myself. The biggest problem with these numbers and comparing them directly with the Bills years is the fact that woods and Watkins were the 3rd and 4th leading receiver on the Rams. When they were on the Bills they were the first and second.