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Option A: Trade #12 + #22 + our 2019 #1; I believe that Gettleman and Buffalo have a deal IF, McBeane can give them 2 first round picks this year, plus next years 1st which should be a top 10, because our schedule is so tough. I still believe that Rosen is the target. The Jets knew we had a deal in place and made their best move, because Allen or Mayfield fit their system.
#12 + #22 + our 2019 #1 = #2
Note: we could possibly give them a 2nd and 3rd rounder next year instead of the 2019 1st, but they have all of the leverage.
This leaves Buffalo with #2, #53, #56, #65, #96, #121 and #187.
Next year we have serious cash to land free agents.
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Option B: SF needs another 2nd rounder and with Pick#9 and Pick#12 plus a late pick we are at #2; I believe that Gettleman and Buffalo have a deal IF, McBeane can give them 2 high first round picks this year. I still believe that Rosen is the target. The Jets knew we had a deal in place and made their best move, because Allen or Mayfield fit their system
#22, #56 and #65 = #9
#12 + #9 + #166 = #2
This leaves Buffalo with #2, #53, #121 and #187 and they do not need to give up next years #1 pick which should be a top 10.
Reality is that they trade picks for 2019 somewhere in these packages, because 4 picks won't cut it this year.
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4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Compounding the issue for the Bills is McD wanting to pass on QB last year..........and the perception that he made a trade with a connection in KC rather than the team with lesser prospects for the coming season and ended up with the 22nd pick instead of the 4th pick. They are lucky they got a good player in Tre White otherwise they'd be getting crucified Browns-style for it.
Completely true. I am not sure that Mahomes or Watson were the guy they wanted and I believe they thought this year we would have a top 10. I would not mind if they traded away a #3 this year to get a #2 next year. They will need picks again to make trades for sure.
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1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:
The good news is........if they pass on a QB this year.......when they get their next shot at a decent crop of QB's everyone they drafted this year will be almost eligible for free agency at the same time!
Here's the thing...........having 6 picks in the first 3 rounds sounds great.........but it's an era of 4 year rookie contracts now and a time where teams are making more informed decisions on PROVEN players in FA and getting better results from that process.
There is an argument to be made AGAINST having 10-12 draft picks in a given year...........a prime example of this would be guys like Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer..........if the Bills had a couple spare recent 3rd and 4th round safeties in development on the roster perhaps the Bills never go after one or either. I think Cleveland is encountering issues with having too many draft picks to manage and properly evaluate their own talent.
It's never been more important to have a franchise QB that you can shuffle the deck around rather than draft-and-pay-everyone-around and teams that take chances on QB's are then being REWARDED for placing priority on QB and then having balance in the rest of their personnel dealings.
I agree. The way teams are built are completely different. If you have a core QB, O-line and D-line, then you can build fast. If you have one (the Bills have D-line), then you have to build enough for free agents to want to come. I see us dropping into the top 10 next year. We have to get a QB and #2 or #4 or #5 are the only options. I love that the drought is over, but I knew it would bite us. Every year there have been QBs we don't land a franchise one and every year we are top of the draft there isn't one there. Not sure how the Giants won't rape us on a trade.
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5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:
Teddy is a UFA in 2019
actually your right 1 year deal 15 mill
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If we can somehow swing a deal with Denver or Cleveland, then trade with the Giants. We could pull this off. The Giants want Barkley or Nelson and a ton of draft capitol. I think everyone is already happy with their positioning.
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Jets did such an amazing job. They can trade Bridgewater next year if he plays well. They win even if we trade to #2.
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1 minute ago, Lurker said:
That prediction feels increasingly likely to me as well. If Allen fell to 22, would he be considered a "good value" pick???
He won't fall past Miami or Arizona. He would be considered a top 10 in other drafts. Think Bortholes and Rothlesbooger.
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Yesterday I was crafting this, but did not want to jinx us, so I didn't submit. I some what hope Buffalo can swing a trade with the Giants, but I am not sure they will?
Question now is do they move to Denver's #5 (Allen or Mayfield?) if they are willing which I doubt or Giants #2 (Rosen) and give away next years #1 on top of most of our 1st 3 rounds this year. Puke!
1. Browns should take QB #1 (Darnold), because it will push the panic button for the #2 and #3 picks as the Jets and Bills fight it out.
2. The Giants want QB (Darnold), but settle for Saquon Barkley if they are stuck with pick and their guy isn't there, unless they are offered a serious ton of draft capital from the Bills or Jets like a #1 next year plus more. Josh Rosen is Manning 2.0 (smooth arm movement but throws a wobbler on film), so that is possible too.
3A. This makes #3 trade down gold.The Colts should trade with the Jets and grab their #2 to land a blue chipper and still get a beast on defense without having to drop to #12. They need draft picks, because of Cap hell. I think there is a secret plan to draft Baker Mayfield, so they may stay put or trade with Cleveland to leapfrog Denver. I think the Colts could still land Chubb here at #6.
3B. However, If I were Buffalo I would swing a deal with SF to #9 ASAP and give them a late #3 to gain leverage, because they do not have a #2 from the Jimmy Garoppolo trade and it would still give the Colts a great prospect on Defense or at Guard in the top 10. Trading to #3 from #9 would cost the Bills either our #22 or both 2nd round picks + change. I would rather keep #22 to land a great MLB since there are 3 elite ones, but I think Indy wants #22. I think we lose out and cannot move down to get our guy!
4. Bills really like Josh Allen and gamble on a bust?
Prediction
Cleveland - Darnold
Giants - Rosen (Manning 2.0)
Jets - Mayfield
Browns - Barkley/Minkah Fitzpatrick or we secretly like Josh Allen
Denver - Josh Allen (Elway 2.0)
Chubb
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#12 Bills decide to take Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech or Roquan Smith, Georgia
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skip to #22
Bills Select
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1 minute ago, Batman1876 said:
If we miss one of the top QBs then we are well on our way to being the Browns.
I predict we win 4-6 games next year at best even if we draft a QB.
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I really want to go to the draft. I have been trying to find away to buy tickets. I want to take my son. I'm ecstatic!!
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I do not like anyone outside of the top 4 rated QBs, so if we cannot get our guy, then draft best available at any position. Trade for Foles after round 1 for a #2 this year and next year. He is the only FA QB next year. Send both #2's this year or move to the top of round 2 for Lamar. At least we would have something to discuss and have a competition all year.
- one of them will drop to 10 for sure.
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40 minutes ago, BuffaLoko said:
I like that scenario too, if they for some reason ranging from too steep of a price to trade up to ¨their guy¨@QB taken too early, need to stay put at 12,
they better get a freakish Defensive guy right there.
If you account for ~ 5 QBs, ~ 1 RB , ~ 2DL, ~ 1DB, (in bold I highlight positions which we don´t need any more) taken before 12, we are talking about getting one of the 2 top LBs! which has to be a monster pick to me!!! things looking up for our guys!!
We will trade our left nut for a QB, so this is all BS below...
If no QB, then I would trade up from #22 to #9 w/SF, by trading #22, #56 and #65 to take Quenton Nelson LG (Gold Jacket - Bills Wall of Fame)
The Bills need Roquan Smith (5-10 year starter) at #12 or I would settle for Tremaine Edmunds. I think Roquan is the real deal, but Tremaine is gifted and has a ton potential.
Pick #53 Billy Price Center (5-10 year starter)
Pick # 121 should be a deep threat at WR (Moore, Chark) or grab a CB (McD is the DB whisperer).
Pick# 166 RB (Ivory is about done)
Pick #187 Mike White QB
3x starters and a few guys to develop for next year. Solid Offensive and defensive lines.
Note: I loath Mason Rudolph and Lamar is Tyrod/Vick 2.0.
Cap space will be $60-90 Million for next year. Go all in for FA... Grab an elite WR and replace another Offensive lineman.
Depth chart:
QB - AJ "average" Mccarron and Mr. Pickles
RB - RB McCoy, Ivory, Rookie
WR - Calvin, Zay and a maybe Rookie
TE - Clay, O'Leary and maybe a Rookie
LT - Dawkins
LG - Nelson
C - Price/Groy
RG - Incognito/Groy
RT - Mills
RE - Hughes/Shaq
DT - Williams
DT- Lotulelei
LE - Trent/Shaq
OLB - Milano
MLB - Roquan
OLB - Lorenzo Alexander
FS - Hyde
SS - Poyer
CB - White
CB - Davis
Nickel - Rookie
Wins in Bold
Home: Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Jaguars, Titans, Chargers, Bears, Lions
Away: Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Texans, Colts, Ravens, Packers, VikingsBuffalo Bills 4-12 Top 3 pick in 2019 Draft
- no QB prospect worth taking, so we go after the best free agent on the market. Nick Foles LOL http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2019/quarterback/
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Beane and McDermott are great at drafting LBs and CBs. They will find a speedy MLB and another corner. Dawkins proves they can land a lineman too. QB is what scares me. We will never know who they loved best after we trade up.
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29 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
more like 4.5...those players necessarily displace other players from the top 51 which means the displaced players contrcts values are subtracted from the rookie contract values
They probably have 4-6 million to play with, but I would sit and wait now to grab cheap guys for depth. Don't extend and play with the cap. If there are some ways to work in another 5 million because of Wood and the trades, then do it.
One more season of Charles Clay then we can cut him!!! I hope the draft a TE to groom with our new QB.
POTENTIAL OUT: 2019, 4 YR, $33,500,000; $4,500,000 DEAD CAP
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2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
I agree. If you add Barkley, you have a great OL, 3 great WR's, a capable QB in TT and whatever rookie they draft, and a solid D. I think they could make the playoffs next year. They are putting a scary roster together.
please be the Rams. Also, him and Donald on the same line is sick.
I actually want to see that. With those new corners, they can crush QBs.
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Now with Joe Thomas retiring. The Brown's need a LT. Maybe they trade down with the Bills to grab Mike McGlinchey?
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8 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:
The Patriots don't need to spend big money at any O-Line position. That unit as a whole gets away with more holding than anyone in the NFL.
and Brady gets rid of the ball in 2.x seconds with al of those crossing patterns that are really picks.
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Ndamukong Suh could end up with the Patriots or Rams. he is looking to play for a winner. The AFC has better odds, but man him on the Rams defense and some motivation could be scary. I think they are going to a Wade Phillips 3-4. Those arms are friggin massive. I think Miami has been a cancer and he has a lot left in the tank.
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30 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:
huh? Saquon Barkley, the top 5 projected RB.
No one expects them to move up there. Just saying a RB at that caliber would give him many more years.
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3 minutes ago, ricojes said:
I guess he's a good receiver after all....
He loves Tight Ends and small receivers.
Just now, BadLandsMeanie said:Yuks aside, that is two Pats so far who had been willing to take less money to be a Patriot, who now have left for a market value payday.
I wonder if this signals the end is near for Billy Bellichick?
I am wondering the same thing. I have to believe this is the final year. Their draft will tell all this year.
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Atlanta wanted to trade a 4th or 5th in January. Now he can he had for a 4th.
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2 hours ago, KRT88 said:
If I'm the Colts and that's your offer, I just hang up the phone, you have to do way better than that. The points chart is one thing but the tax for moving up for a QB means you better go 20-25% above.
Strangely Bills fans seem to think that other teams are suppose to give away the pick.
I'd personally much rather give away 12 and 22 this year than 12 and a 1st next year, as that pick is likely to be much higher than 22 is this year. I doubt the Bills will make the playoffs on a 2nd place schedule and a ton of new starters, potentially a rookie at QB or at best a journeyman.
Agreed. I believe this will be more likely. Having an SEC Alabama guy and two very good options at MLB available in that slot I am still hopeful we can stay.
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How to get to Pick #2
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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LOL. I hope not. I like McBean
sadly you may be correct
I agree and the Bills may be able to grab a future guy at 4?