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18 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:
There have been plenty of posts on this board demanding McDermott be fired and CLEARLY stating, as a primary reason, what he has done with a "playoff" team. If you choose to believe those posts were never written, feel free. Leaving that aside, you say, even if it were true, McDermott should be judged more harshly because of the nature of the offense and more blowouts? Seriously? The coach should be fired because his 29th or 30th ranked offense from last year (that managed a grand 3 points in the playoff loss) is worse in a rebuilding year, playing, to date, the 3rd hardest schedule (DVOA of opponents)? Yet, a coach with Super Bowl winning talent on his team, whose offense has dropped from 7th to 19th, whose defense dropped from 4th to 23rd, whose team has been embarrassed on the field, and whose record, in a weak division and playing the 21st hardest schedule, is one win better than the rebuilding Bills shouldn't be judged as harshly?
Let me be clear. I think it is absolutely asinine to think either one should be fired. At least I'm consistent.
There you go fabricating things again. I never said the coach should be fired, just that he should be judged more harshly than Pedersen because he hasn't shown as much. I think he will be fired either during next season or after, but I sure hope I'm wrong.
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8 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:
Not that confusing, nor is it a false choice. It also was not about whether a Super Bowl win was better than a Wild Card loss. Most of us understand that - but, thank you for pointing out the obvious.
The point was that I have heard over and over about how McDermott should be fired for taking a “playoff” team and turning it into a 3-7 team with some embarrassing losses. I have also heard from those same posters how Pederson is a shining example of what we need. Well, Pederson has taken a Super Bowl winning team and turned it into a 4-6 team with some embarrassing losses - like the one this past week. Some might argue Pederson’s failure this year might be more egregious due to the superior talent he has to work with. Just looking for a little consistency...
First, who has said McDermott needs to be fired BECAUSE of the difference between last year and this year? Completely fabricated premise. But ok, even if that were true, it's not inconsistent to judge Mcdermott more harshly because the offense is historically bad and the blowouts didn't start this year and have come more frequently.
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3 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:
I love this narrative about the Eagles. They were a top 15 offense the four years (top 4 in two of those years) before Pederson took over. The primary difference in that team last year was the defense going from 30th to 4th in two years. Yes, their offense was great in the Super Bowl; however, they would not have gotten there without the defense playing at the level they played last year.
Also, I asked this question in another thread for the people praising Pederson and wanting McDermott fired for turning a "playoff team" into a 3-7 team this year: Is Pederson the genius offensive mind that took his team to the Super Bowl, or should he be fired and run out of town for turning a Super Bowl team into a 4-6 team that is struggling offensively and defensively - and the team that was an absolute embarrassment on the field this last week? Got no answer.
Probably got no answer because the question is phrased very confusingly. You've created a false choice.
But it's pretty simple, Super Bowl win > scoring 3 pts in wildcard and 1 embarassing game against a top team > I have lost count of embarassing games McDermott has presided over (against some bad teams at that)
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1 minute ago, Success said:
Mahomes was awesome - but did have a Peterman type game with the turnovers
We took Peterman instead of Mahomes
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Just now, Augie said:
I’m so sick of the hindsight 20/20 people.......
Don't see anyone saying "I told you so"
II do see a lot of ppl in denial though
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2 minutes ago, Success said:
We have no idea what’s going to happen with Allen. It’s ridiculous to compare them right now.
Does Mahomes light the league in fire if he has to start in the first half if his rookie season, with a bad line and B team weapons?
no, but he'd be better than Allen. I mean c'mon he's smashing records.
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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:
No you wont
wth?
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5 hours ago, JerseyBills said:
That team is a perfect example of how not to build a team. Currently have the most expensive active roster , a roster worth 60 mil more than Buffalo. They'll be in cap hell for a couple years and have to rebuild all over again. Bet they're loving that Dareus contract ??
Buffalo on the other hand has designed the team to be able to sustain long term success .
As for Ramsey, I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole .
That Dareus contract that has no dead cap next year because we are paying it this year? Yeah I'm sure they're fine with it.
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5 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:
I predicted a 2-5 start. May be able to locate it around the board somewhere.
5 road games in the first 7 games with a team this young was trouble from the word GO.
What I didn't foresee was KB becoming the absolute waste he's become.
And are you one of those who still has faith in McDermott? My point was that people who blindly have faith in this regime still also probably predicted a decent record before the season because they’re constantly in denial despite all evidence to the contrary. Yet they still use the excuse that we all knew it would be bad.
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19 hours ago, Maybe Someday said:
&$%# that, I demand satisfaction NOW!!! McD & Beane haven't done everything exactly as I wanted them to so they need to be fired yesterday. If the new guys don't field an elite team by week 6 of next year, fire them too. Eventually they'll hire me and we'll go 19-0 cuz I've got all the answers.
Signed,
Way too many posters on TSW
woahcool so meta!
another post about the negative posters complete with a misrepresentation of what people are saying.
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Those of you who are explaining away the worst offense of all time by saying we and they knew this was coming; please also post your preseason record prediction. Something tells me your rosy outlook didn’t start now.
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2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:
Imagine what he would look like here in Buffalo with this line and these weapons.....
/thread
We drafted Peterman that year instead. Imagine Peterman in Houston.
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4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
Was everyone who says they should fire him stating the same at the end of last season when they made the playoffs and went 9-7 when most at the beginning of the year were predicting 4 to 6 wins?
Just curious?
I didn’t say fire him on here, but I was very skeptical because of in game decisions.
I remember telling my cousin and my dad after he punted in OT of the colts game that I think we hired another bad coach.
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Even if they turn the offense around (highly doubtful) will our coach still run up the middle on 3rd and 8 with 1:44 left in the half against the patriots?
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30 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:
Okay, let's say we have the 20th ranked offense in the NFL this year but we still only have 2 wins. Are you still done with McD? yes, yes you are.
Why do you assume that?
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2 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:
It’s an attempt at irony, but in reality it’s an attempt to to mask whining about whining.
That’s all I’ve ever seen this guy post
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1 minute ago, joesixpack said:
I wanna thank you for the cheap rent in your head.
Anytime. and I look forward to a post from you that is not a complaint about a negative poster. I'm sure it will come one day.
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1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:
Many of the same impatient screamy-meemies who are calling for Beane’s and McDermott’s heads now.
I don't understand what you're trying to say. You like the coach and the QB they picked? and you think they will turn it around from the worst offense in history to super bowl?
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8 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
But TBD told me that Allen was the problem.
who did? and isn't it still possible that he sucks? not saying he does, but your implying he's not the problem, but he still could be a problem.
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11 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:
“I need instant gratification”
who is that quote from
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3 minutes ago, row_33 said:
if the Jets want to tank this game it could be quite hilarious
Nah they were last year and did pretty well against us on thursday night
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Cue post from “joesixpack” and “johnfromriverside” and the like saying wahhhhhhhhh!”
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22 hours ago, LABillzFan said:
But stop whining about people who aren't as critical as you want them to be. It's ridiculous and accomplishes nothing, unless you come here to vent instead of kick your dog, in which case, stop kicking your dog.
This is a thread about how bad the bills offense has been with statistics to back it up. You and Augie came in here complaining about people who aren't as positive as you want them to be.
Also, you're the one throwing out Ad Hominem attacks and calling people 12 years old.
So maybe take a look in the mirror.
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8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Are we sure? Matt Milano and Taron Johnson were taken in the range of the pick we'll end up with. McCarron offered us at best a bridge starter in a season where we have no chance at making the Super Bowl. I'll take a shot at a player that contributes for a few years, even if it's unlikely, over that.
I see what you're saying but does sheltering Allen help his development? I'm not sure, but if you think it does then you keep McCarron in case Peterman petermans. Allen's development is the most important thing.
Owners with Conservative/Defensive Minded Coaches have some SOUL SEARCHING to do.
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I attempted to address your straw-man argument in my first reply. There is absolutely no comparison between Pedersen and McDermott when it comes to body of work, so you had to invent a stance that says the DIFFERENCE between last year and this year is the main reason anyone would want McDermott fired.
Even if that were the case, McDermott's results have been worse both last year and this year.