UConn James

Crossing my fingers that it is uniform-related. It might also be a coach leaving or retiring (McNally?). Or something involving buftex's Jim Kelly rumor?

A daughter named Alex.

Actually, I think it was her in the preview for next week's ep.... in the Others jail cell thingy where they're holding Jack.

Complex doesn't even begin to describe this particular episode. And like I've read others say, it's probably one that's going to be referred to a lot in the future as to what is happening on the island. Your read would make sense. If Charlie dies in the lightning strike, he can't also have died swimming in that same Desmond-life. I would just have to submit whether this could be/was delivered in a dream-state (as the island has done) as opposed to actual reality.... But that phrase "See you in another life, brother!" does deliver a new gravitas. Likewise, I will say again that I don't think Desmond is the only one to be going through (or be around other people who have) this phenomenon, tho he may be the only one who is cognizant of it beyond simple deja vu. I'm referring specifically to Claire's painter boyfriend... and Nadia (whose line is "I will see you in the next life, if not this one"). Perhaps the Lostaways are simply in the first go-round of being 'slightly unstuck in time.'

Not a bad decision by the Chargers owner. I wouldn't want to keep around or hire anyone who engages in these types of squabbles. B/c when you get rid of one of the squabblers, the other will simply find a new target when they don't get their way, and that new target might be you.

Just expounded/extrapolated on your statement that perhaps TH doth protest too much.... The list grows long of people who preach fire and brimstone about the evils of homosexuality and then get caught sucking c---. And absolutely he has a right to his opinion. Doesn't mean that everyone needs to hear it, that the media will harp on it literally into the next millenia. Long after people forget who won which NBA championship, TH will go down in history as being a grade-A bigot. And he's never going to work again. Remember how our mothers said 'If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing.' LOTS of people in this world would be better off if more people followed DCTom/CTM/BJ's advice in my sig line.

People hate most about others what they hate most about themselves. Just sayin'.

In terms of extra-textual similarities, I was thinking more like Vonnegut's relation of Billy Pilgrim's becoming "slightly unstuck in time" in Slaughterhouse Five. Haven't seen FD. I watch fewer Hollywood movies than solitary-confinement prisoners.

Wow, I'm going to have a monster headache tomorrow as I try to put all of this together.... Right about this being an 'old-school' LOST. Deep rumination on the nature of Time, Fate.... Questions now arise of everything we've seen, how it fits in. If Charlie was meant to die, we have seen several instances where it has been averted, i.e. in the airplane, dodging the crashing rack, on the beehive, in the cave-in, being hanged by Ethan..... But I'm just getting the sense that everyone on the plane/island is going/has gone/will go through a similar thing to what happened to Desmond in this ep. Knowing the future and being unable to avoid it sooner or later, then just acquiesing to it (Fate). Charlie, if you remember, tried to "Change Everything" when he went out with the girl with the Winston Churchhill thing. The Others are trying to Change Everything with their experiments. Jack fights back against Fate while his father gave in. Claire's breakup fight with Aaron's father was AMAZINGLY similar to Desmond's breakup w/ Penny, even the wording, iirc. Walt, of course.... Lots of similaities we've seen before. As I maintained last week, I think there's going to be a whole 'Sixth Sense'-like thing, where for those of you who B word, piss and moan about having to endure a mystery and not being explicitly told what the answers are when you want them.... they will have been right there the whole time. And next week promises to answer three of the biggest mysteries. So STFU and enjoy the ride. Also, Desmond near the end said that if he could go back again he would change things. Didn't he miss the point of his flashback/flashforward? You can't change things. I'm also wondering which version of Desmond it was.... was it island-Desmond actually living through the actual past, island-Desmond living through a re-created past, pre-island Desmond with glimpses of the future in the actual past? But if it were what really happened in the past.... the lady in the jewelry shop just blew my mind (and was that her in the preview for next week's ep?). Lastly, I have to say I'm a firm believer in Fate/deja vu. It's happened to me several times where I've seen things in dreams that weeks... months...years later I remember happening. Things that happen that I have a weird feeling I've seen before. One event in particular where thing after thing was happening like it did in my dream.

True, that! Rather than asking a bunch of crap questions, he gets right to the nuggets that matter. And he could get a great interview out of a homeless guy on the corner as much as heads of state, writers, actors, businesspeople.

Just one question, EII.... On special days like this, do they let you make it flow forward? HFB, all!

1) JimBob, when someone invents a machine where you can download someone's every thought and you hook it up to Obama and post the results showing deep-seated political 'vaulting ambitions,' then I'll agree with you. But you make the case from this that he lies about everything? On the contrary, he's been honest to the point of recklessness to quote the Grateful Dead. If I'm hellbent on buying a combo smoke/CO alarm and then find out that buying seperate alarms is a better idea b/c smoke rises to the ceiling and CO stays toward the floor and change my original stance, does that mean I was lying or that I simply made a different, better choice once I had more facts? Or should I pick the combo unit just to be able to say I adhered to some absurd principle bordering on hubris? Three years is three lifetimes.... 'Sh-- Happens'. That you condescend to lord this meaningless crap over someone, as KTFABD said, it says more about you than Obama. 2) "Can I win" is the most important question when running. How can you see it as a problem? Implicit in that question is whether a candidate's ideas are ones that American voters agree with, or the candidate's estimation that he can make a good argument to show or convince people they are. He thinks he can do a good job and lead the country with an optimism and hope that have been seriously lacking in our govt for a long time. If he feels he can lead the country best among the other candidates, it would be a shame if he didn't run. If he has good ideas and can broker the melting pot necessary to win the presidency, he'll go places, if not, he'll go back to Ill.

Methinks he doth protest too much. I submit that Ed is ieatcrayonz.

Yeah, I somehow doubt Elton writes a song about ANS.... It is interesting about the Howard Stern guy... something the police will no doubt be looking at very closely. Either an amazing set of coincidences or this guy was pretty stupid to ensure that even Barney Fife could connect the dots here. Then again, that seems to be a trait of her entire family and entourage. Sorry to speak ill of the dead, but she was a whore.

My brother did security in C-5s and C-130s all over the world. Point was understood that fuel bills are enough to boggle the mind, in particular when getting gouged in Turkey, SA, etc. Another thing is, that's AF personnel. They're paid by DoD for duty time whether they sit at a desk playing computer solitare (Which does actually happen. A lot.) or flying. I wouldn't be shocked by the 90-120K.

Well, let's be conservative and say that $200K goes to fueling, maintenence, etc. (the govt owns the plane so I would think renting it from themselves is pretty stup.... err.... better check on that.) Even granted that, then the average hourly wage --- for what, 8 flight hours for a round trip, including preparation time --- would be $781 and change. Christ, the way you estimate, I'd love to build your house.

Well, also as a manner of reducing spending.... what about the cost of having a guaranteed increased number of air marshals on every flight she is on? Over the course of a year, is that less than using an AF jet a couple of times a week? Lots of people object to things on their face w/o taking the alternative into consideration. Would that our airlines were safe enough for the third in line, whatever their stripe and whoever it is, but they just aren't. Security has to be considered for everyone with that big a target on their back b/c of the office they hold. If she's crooked, fine, remove her from office. But govt shouldn't be functioning and providing security to high-profile members based on popularity. The mistake was in her staffer doing what a staffer does and not just accepting the fact of life that light airplanes have to refuel every so often. It's not like they can't do work on a plane. I highly doubt Pelosi herself actually wants to waste time with this sh--. Bill, was it 'elitist' when Bush increased the president's pay from 200K to 400K?

They've moved it simply to avoid a conflict with Idol. Everyone does it. Hell, they rebroadcast "Grey's Anatomy" on Friday night for people who watch CSI. It is expensive. But they get $ from original broadcast commercials, re-air commercials, DVDs, video game coming out, action figures, magazines.... I dunno about the contracts, but that's the normal posturing of a network. And if anyone gets too vocal, fine --- they're the next to die on the island. I would think the bottom line is doing all right. The main reason the numbers have slipped was predictable out of hand when the series started. It's drama-quasi-sci-fi; as the plot gets more complicated, you expect people who don't want to use their gray matter to stop watching. But also, lots of people are watching online or simply waiting for the DVDs so they can watch it all in one go as a viewing preference. The recent news from the network execs was that they wanted to set a definite end to the show and were having very agreeable discussion w/ Lindelof/Cuse/Abrams for the original conception of five seasons. They seem to be playing very hands-off for a show whose EP's have run very well. If anything, Lindelof was saying that, at a scenario far down the road and 300 forks from where they are, ABC could can him in order to keep the show running longer. Did you ever play that game 'Telephone' in elementary school? ...

Growing older, but not growing up.

I'm just going to respond to the logic of it.... When the odds of a show attracting and maintaining an audience are so small these days, the ABC executives will just dump one of their top 3 shows where they're making money hand over fist? Lost is not Alias. More believeable that Walt Disney's cryogenically frozen, disembodied head is running things and Jim Carrey has been hired as Ace Ventura to move Walt's lips and ad-lib.

No, I think it was definitley for her fertility work. She made a pregnancy happen for her sister (who I guess we're lead to believe has cancer?) and as the Portland guy said, in a male rat. How he knew this (it wasn't published work).... And what was with Ethan walking out of her sister's room early in the ep? Wouldn't be surprised if an Other was driving the bus after they learned what it would take to get her to go on the project. (And, holy sh--, what a scene!) It all just connects too well for it to be an accident. And especially when you consider the lengths they've gone to get exactly what they want and their resources to get it done. You also have to think about the backstory and how it relates to the present. She killed that prick Other (happy that he finally got his) to help Kate and Sawyer escape per Ben's supposed orders... does that suggest that she killed (passively?) Dr. Burke to help escape, herself? Looks like in the next ep, Juliet's in trouble for what she did. The scene with Carl in the sensory overload room was wiggy. But it does totally reinforce that 'Redemption of --- or through? --- TV' theory. I didn't write it down, but it was something about planting a seed of goodness or something. And then the "Everything Changes" like in Hurley's hatch dream in S2. The more clues we get the more it looks it's going that way --- that the Others are trying to instill a change in behaviors in humanity to avert a future disaster. That official video 'leak' last year about the numbers and how they represent a sequence related to the survival of the human race.... And in addition to trying to force a change through behavior/'free will', they're also trying thru genetics and the injection drugs. As Lindelof said in the interviews last month, they're starting to go downhill in terms of revealing answers. We're now at ep 55 of what he says will be about a 100-ep series. I would argue that quite a few of the mysteries do have answers/clues that we have seen, just we don't know yet that they are answers. I have a feeling it's going to be like "The Sixth Sense" in that 'Oh, man! That's right...!' way. Duey, could you change the thread title by editing your original post? Perhaps make it "Lost S3 Discussion Thread" and we can simply have it like the '24' thread. Seperate threads for each ep might have been necessary before, but I think the level of activity has died down enough to make one continuing thread sufficient.

What happened to Ken?

Who needs new jails? This is America! Where we set our rapists, diddlers and violent criminals free to roam the streets in 90 days. And we toss stoners in jail for 20 years. Better to make sure judges and lawyers can wipe their a$$es while sitting on marble toilet seats.

He's also a true pinko-socialist Canadian.

There is essentially no tailgating at the U's new football stadium near Hartford. Insurance purposes, partly, which is necessitating bans of lots of things. If it's b/w paying $1M in premiums or letting people throw footballs around / grill on open flame where there's automobiles hither and yon.... tailgating is out 99 percent of the time. And more than likely lots of pressure from area restaurants / watering holes / etc. looking to gorge on tourist dollars.