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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:
And so instead we got Peterman? Sheeesh, McCarron must have been an axe murderer!
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22 hours ago, Rebel101 said:
I agree but I really think they thought the way peterman looked in preseason and it being his 2nd year that he was gonna give them a good season...why else get ready rid of McCarron. Who I believe would have preformed better then both our current QBs while also giving Allen a little of a Vet presence to learn from. Getting rid of McCarron was a huge mistake but it goes back to this coaching staff conceding the fact of winning games this year they knew the roster they were taking into the season there is no way they expected to be competitive so I think they are just trying to teach this year and see if there are any young players worth keeping. Because honestly some of the moves this FO has made have been mind boggling. I understand they were told to fix the cap and all that but some things they’ve done to do that are ridiculous because there were pieces they should have kept if they wanted to win they clearly don’t care about winning this year
I do recall a Beane interview, where his comment on McCarron was, "He's not the guy we thought he was." Beane left it at that, leaving us to speculate on what he was inferring. Maybe he, and the staff, believed McCarron would not be a good mentor, after having spent time with him. I think back to the McCarron quote after the final preseason game, where he said (paraphrase), That was the most exciting win I've ever had! An odd thing to say about a 4th preseason game against scrubs...
Just food for thought.
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9 hours ago, teef said:
You don’t have to, but you do have to respect me as a person.
Even though the OP wasn't posting about Josh Allen being a bust, do we still have to respect his opinion about pies?
What about cake? Surely, we must respect the OP's opinion about cake. What are we, Barbarians, here, people? Let the OP have a goddamn opinion about cake!
But not about pies!
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9 hours ago, MichFan said:
Jim Kelly was 1-6 in his first 7 starts for the Bills. That was after two years of pro ball in the USFL.
Oh my God, I didn't watch the game, and my opinion is THE truth! Bench Kelly! Fire Beane! Beane must have had something to do with... @Jpsredemption
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I know, the mods will probably end this thread because they think it's a joke, but hear me out: possibly the lone positive thing Bill's fans can agree on about Whaley's tenure was that he was an ace at reclamation projects, pulling guys like Jerry Hughes into the fold for duds like Kelvin Sheppard, just to name one.
Should the Bills bring back Whaley, just as a pro scout? I bet he would work for cheap, too. Hairbrained plot, or stroke of genius? You tell me.
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18 minutes ago, Domdab99 said:
The one who has won 5 Super Bowls
I'm no math professor, but some odd inkling tells me that it may be difficult to win 5 SB's when you've played a total of 2 games...
#shadethrown #crowcurryonfleek
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3 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said:
But but Allen didn't throw for 300 yards????
Had Foster, Benjamin, and Clay not dropped so many passes... Yes.
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This is just clickbait for all the hateraide drinkers out there; nothing more. All I'm saying is that we, as Bills fans, need to stop thinking with a loser's mentality:
"The Patriots are always better than us."
"We lucked into that win."
This kind of thinking only begets more of this kind of thinking...
Think as winners. Play as winners.
Accept that we played our asses off, and beat a damn good team, in their house.
Accept that the Patriots, and Tom Brady, and Billy O'Bellycheck, are mortal.
And maybe we might be able to beat them. Maybe not this year, but the day is coming...
Some dingus named Norman Vincent Peale wrote some book, at one point, that a lot of people (probably not Bills fans) read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Positive_Thinking
That's all I'm saying.
#endrant
1 hour ago, dubs said:BBMB
I actually never was on that board. Sorry to disappoint you.
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QB #1:
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG
14/26 133 5.1 1 1 2-13 65.0
QB #2:
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG
15/22 196 8.9 1 0 3-32 111.2
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12 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
I dont think Zay Jones will be a featured back at all, what has he shown in the NFL to warrant that, nothing. How was his off season, borderline disaster. He was great in Tier II level college ball and was a high pick, ignoring that he is nothing special.
Yeah, RoyBatty, he hasn't taken a single handoff, and the damn coaches keep splitting Jones out wide, almost like he's a wide receiver, or something ?
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3 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said:
Dont be this guy, gents.
Who pissed on Eddie Spaghetti's meatballs? The Browns called, asking for their truth back, Mr. Cranky Pants.
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? Whaley's gone rogue!
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13 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:
You’re more optimistic than I am, Corta. I see Star Looneylewinski as a poor man’s Adolphus Washington and Murphy as washed up. We haven’t had any pass rush ends since Mario’s 2nd last season. Kyle’s best playing is behind him and whoever/whatever player rushes from the other side likely only hurries a few throws. I do like the way LBs are shaping up but the young guys will be exploited by great offenses. The secondary is also encouraging, but is a major injury away from being brutalized.
#NotThisYear
Jerry, there's already a thread about your buyout. Please keep your comments to that thread. Thanks.
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On 5/6/2018 at 9:42 AM, Magox said:
Yet another good recent decision by the Bills.
Wait... According to many "in the know posters" on here, the kinds who attend "high level business meetings" and have "trusted sources," the Bills are not allowed to make good decisions! How can this be? Please explain, please, oh font of great knowledge...
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15 minutes ago, Skins Malone said:
Do you think hes a club or a flapper man?
16 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:It’s a great start
Side note: my girlfriend eats boneless wings with ranch dressing. She also eats them with a knife and fork. I’m still trying to figure out a good way to end it
Was she raised by wolves?
I guess wolves don't use utensils... That's hilarious, though
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I was just listening to the interview with Josh Allen on Howard & Jeremy, and Allen picked blue cheese over ranch, on his wings.
Is this a good sign, or is this a good sign?
#makinggoodchoices
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For what it's worth, Walter Football gave us two A's for our round 1 draft selections:
http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades.php?ddlI pray they have great foresight... I'm worried about Allen, but hopeful.
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Buffalo Bills: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming A Grade
What a great job for the Bills. They wanted to trade up all along, but the problem was surrendering No. 22 or a 2019 first-round pick. They didn't want to give up either, and they didn't. They dealt their two second-rounders instead.
As for the actual player, it's nice to see that Josh Allen's actions from when he was 14 didn't impact his draft standing. Allen is raw, but he has great arm strength and mobility, which will work well in Buffalo. He also works very hard, so I think he'll be able to work on his accuracy woes.
Read more: http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades.php?ddl#ixzz5DplyAJlM16.
Buffalo Bills: Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech A Grade
It's a bit shocking that Tremaine Edmunds fell this far. He could have gone as high as No. 6, though more realistically No. 8, so credit the Bills for taking advantage of the opportunity and trading up.
Edmunds' athleticism is off the charts, and he has immense potential. He has great versatility as well. The Bills had just one viable player at the position last year (Matt Milano), and Edmunds will certainly change that.
Read more: http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades.php?ddl#ixzz5Dplof8iH-
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I'm voting meeee!
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A good source from deep within my brain reports that the Pats will trade The Refs + 23 + 31 + 43 + 63 + 95 for #1 overall.
They will then select a conglomeration of blood samples taken from all the best aspects of each QB that YOU, dear readers, want in the draft, combine them in the nefarious BALCO Labs to form the G.O.A.T. x 10,000.
What proceeds will be a 50 year reign of terror over the AFC East...
BUT McBeane will hoodwink The Hoodie by trading JUST 12 + 22 to move to the AFC North, beginning a similar reign of dominance.
Part deux of the deal--and the true ingenious move by McBean--will be The Bills trading Kim Pegula for Gisele Bündchen, cementing us as having the hottest owner's wife in the league.
Can ANYONE claim to have a better draft-day story?
Come at me, bro!
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I love draft season... more drafts, please!
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1 hour ago, Zerovotlz said:
Lots and lots of folks here with some kneejerk reactions to todays trade are getting some things severely wrong as they try and make sense of what is going on.
1. Cleveland. They are taking a QB. I don't claim to know which one, but it will be a QB. The barkley talk at 1 AND/OR 4 is rediculous. They signed Carlos Hyde to a big deal this past week to be the feature back. They have Duke Johnson, one of the few consistant performers on their roster as the 3rd down guy. Doresy has a LONG LONG history of being with front offices that don't take RB high, or when has made the choices himself, has NOT taken RB high. He drafted Kareem Hunt in round 3 last year....his entire careers work and experience indicate that he is clearly in the "you can find a RB later" school of thought. It's a deep RB draft. They aren't taking Barkley at 1, AND they aren't taking him at 4.
2. NY Giants. Everything has a price...and the Giants can demand a ransom here, you would think...but can they really? Barkley is a more obvious fit here, they have a GM who last year spent a 1st round pick on Christian McCaffery. They have a need at RB...but they have plenty of holes to fill, deep RB draft. Consider the 2019 QB class SUCKS. (at least it seems that way now...granted we are a year out, but it's not good) They were all geared up to move on from Eli at the end of last season. They still understand that Eli is just about done as it is even if they aren't moving on just yet. They are in a great position to take his successor. Again, looking forward a year....when the QB crop is lacking and you don't know where you are drafting, they may recognize the position they are in as the best chance to get their next QB. They may well be prepared to have a 2019 in which there is no Eli, no Beckham, and they are starting over....could get a jump on that with the QB now. Let's examine the trade market for this pick. 1QB off the board at 1. Let's assume that is either Darnold or Allen. The Jet's are at 3, willing to move up to 2 if they must to get Mayfield (speculation on my part, but I believe that is their man.) Cleveland with 4, not moving up. Denver at 5. They aren't moving up. They are staying put. So, no trade partner there. 6. Colts. no reason to move up to six after moving out of 3....they are also staying in place at 6 for a top NON QB. Tampa at 7. Not moving on from Winston (nor should they, he's shown enough to continue as the unquestioned starter) 8. Chicago. They have Trubisky. They aren't in the trade up market, and if they were to move up it isn't for QB. No reason to go to 2. 9. 49ers. Garroppolo. 10. Raiders. Carr. 11. Miami. They are sticking with Tannehill...see below. 12. Buffalo. NEED QB. 13. Redskins. Alex Smith. 14. Packers. Rodgers. 15 Arizona. Signed Bradford..but could use drafted QB. 16. Baltimore. Not trading up for QB this year..have Flacco. The trade market is stay in place or move to 12 and picks with Buffalo. Arizona has no ammo.
3. Jets. They will take a QB here....I am almost sure it's Mayfield. They are in great shape if this is their man...the Giants would be the desination for Rosen if they take one. If the Giants can figure out the Jets target, and it isn't the QB they are after, they could fleece the jets to flop spots.
4. Cleveland....could trade out, but if you read the market for the 2nd pick....it's the same market. Cleveland will spend this pick on a top NON QB prospect.
5. Denver at 5. They aren't moving up. Let's look at this closely...it's another team alot of folks here haven't paid close attention to. They signed Keenum for starter money. They have a coaching staff who has THIS YEAR. The GM has been plauged by poor QB choices. Paxton Lynch is still on the roster. They have re-upped their WR's for the next two seasons. They are in WIN NOW mode while they percieve their window is open. They need more day 1 starter help, not developmental QB help. They are NOT a threat to move up now, nor are they a threat to take a QB where they sit. They are in on a top Non QB prospect at 5. They are staying put.
6. Colts. Chose to trade with Jets for a reason...wanting a top NON QB prospect and can still get that here.
Miami just restructed Tannehill...he's there for 2 more seasons, or they take a giant cap hit to let him go.
The Bills are still in line to get a QB...at 12. The Jets move up has settled the situation at the top....the Problem here is the Bills Board. is the QB that will be left, is he "the man?"
speculating that the draft goes 1.Darnold. 2. Rosen. 3 Mayfield. That leaves ALLEN, JACKSON....and Rudolph. It is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that Buffalo passes at 12 now even, and waits for 21 to see how it shakes out. I am sure Jackson and Rudolph will have made it that far..and possibly even Allen. That leaves the following possible scenarios.
Best Case: at 2, the Giants keep the pick AND take a NON QB. Jet's go Mayfield...that leave Rosen for the taking, and the Bills with plenty of Ammo and all sorts of trade partners to work with to move up and get him.
More Likely Case: Giants don't show their hand, Jets get itchy about their man, fear someone could move up, Giants know Bills have need for Rosen....takes 2 to have a market....they have a market...Bills sell the farm to move up. 12, 21, other picks. Get Rosen.
Alternate Likely Case: Giants convince Jets someone is about to move to 2 and get their guy. Jet's swap with Giants. Jets take Mayfield anyhow. Giants and Bills talk. Bills still pay ransom to move up to 3 for Rosen.
Better Case: Rosen still on board as draft progresses....closer he gets to 12, less ransom the bills pay to move up....perhaps he lasts to 12. Beane is hero.
Not knowing what the Giants think of Rosen and others, and not being sure who the Jets want keeps things cloudy, but the Bills are not in horrible shape, they haven't missed out...and the Jets moving to 3 clarifies the market and allows time to consider options and plan.
Props, OP, for having a well-thought out and original take. I, for one, appreciate it!
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Rather than creating the same thread, here's something to consider, while everyone on this board almost categorically has decided Beane needs to be lynched for "letting" the Jets "jump us" for the 3rd pick.
It's a little concept called Echo Chamber Thought. Give this a quick listen/read:
With that as philosophical context, please read the following article from Walterfootball.com (decidedly NOT a Bills-specific media source):
http://walterfootball.com/nfltrades.php
All I'm saying is this, folks: at the moment I click "Submit Topic" on this thread, there are 1,021 (and counting) replies to the post entitled "Jets just traded with Colts for #3 pick in first round ". OTHER, well-informed sources (Walter Football just being one) are not saying the Bills have ruined their hopes of a future by "letting" the Jets "jump us" in the draft... Keep in mind, they were ahead of us to begin with. Some folks must think 6 comes after 12...
We are our own worst nightmare, guys and gals... We DO NOT know what Donald Rumsfeld once coined "the unknown unknowns" about the trade between the Jets and Colts, and the talks our F.O. had with the Colts, Browns, and Giants (not to mention the Broncos at #5). Rumsfeld, for your reference:
PLEASE stop for a moment, pull your heads out of this echo-chamber we all participate in, and BILLieve that the Bills F.O. is NOT Two Bills Drive, The Stadium Wall, or your specific echo-chamber of hive-mind thought!
WE DO NOT KNOW if Beane was bluffing or being honest, when he said (in YESTERDAY's presser) that we may not take a QB in the 1st:
We've all already forgotten YESTERDAY... Good, dear, sweetbabyjesus, folks... Have faith that our F.O. is working hard to do the best it can, and recognize that we are all only getting up in a tizzy about something we, in our VERY limited and EXCEEDINGLY skewed (by the echo-chamber effect and unknown unknowns) vantage points!
We will be alright, guys and gals. I, for one, have faith in McBeane.
#endrant
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16 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:
I love the idea of getting Vea. RB so early though I'm not so sure. Why go RB early when you can snag one in the 4th - 6th? I would maybe go Vea and and O linemen depending on how the chips fall. Or, if we want to just go nuts on DEF. Go two DT's! That'll imrpove the DEF for sure.
Normally, I would agree, but if you've watched any tape on Love, you would recognize that he is a seriously special talent. I've heard, in an interview, that McCafferty (who was Stanford's RB before Love) even admitted that Love is probably the better back. And where did McCafferty go? 8th...
If the talent is there, the player is available, and they may be a generational talent, you take that player. Shady won't be Shady forever. Get Shady V 2.0. Get Bryce Love III!
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21 - Bryce Love III - RB - Stanford
22 - Vita Vea - DT - Washington
Package both 2nd rounders to move up and snag best QB available in late 1st / early 2nd.
Deshaun Watson chest injury
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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We all know that you hate Josh Allen. Unfortunately, for your current argument, Allen plays quarterback, which is on the offensive side of the ball. He does not play Cornerback, which is on the defensive side of the ball.
For more literature on offense and defense, as well as rules of the game of American football, I leave, for you, this little gem:
https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2018-nfl-rulebook/
So, sadly, for your argument's sake, your mortal enemy, Josh Allen, will not be able to let Watson hook up with Hopkins all over the field.
Plus, that would probably be stopped by the refs, seeing as the modern NFL has put the kabosh on any inappropriate displays, such as Watson attempting to "hook up all over the field," as the kids say these days. Need I point out the infamous "Brady Dildo" incident, of yesteryear? Perhaps a picture will remind you of said escapade: