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I know what the media has been saying about the top WR's this year and i don't actually disagree with them, however, in my honest opinion, i really only see MHJ and Nabers as the 2 that are NFL-ready and the most polished of skillset coming into a franchise and absolutely starting day 1.
Nabers kind of reminds me of a similar JJ type, so i am completely onboard with that. The dude has speed, excellent footwork, his route tree is outstanding, he's not afraid to mix it up and get his hands dirty or fight for extra yards.
This is the guy that i want to see play alongside JA.
I have spoken.
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54 minutes ago, Logic said:
The thing that bothers ME, if anything, is this:
When Diggs was a Bill, all we heard about was how he was a diva, a malcontent, a headache, and was maybe showing his age last year and no longer a number one receiver.
Now that he's a Texan, he's the weapon that's gonna put them over the top, they're favorites in the AFC, he's still a #1 WR, and the Bills got fleeced.
Like...which is it? Pick a lane.That's exactly the same point i was going to make.
Diggs in B-lo was a distraction, a big-time diva and a headache for the franchise, has lost a step, is aging, but he goes to Houston and holy ****, he's the king. He's exactly what a team needs to put them over the top.
The media flipping both ways, saying that Buffalo doesn't really need this frustration on its hands and yet, they turn around saying what the hell are the Bills doing, they're tanking this year, they've given up, throwing in the towel, etc.
If it wasn't so blatantly obvious that the media has no idea what they are talking about or just creating some click-bait, it would almost be comical.
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
For those who don't want to pay the totally-worth-it $1.99 per month to subscribe to the Athletic (can you even get a pack of gum for that any more?), here's Joe Buscaglia's latest 7 round Bills mock draft. I gotta say, if this happened, I might cry tears of joy.
https://theathletic.com/5391796/2024/04/05/buffalo-bills-mock-draft-stefon-diggs-trade/
TRADE!
Tennessee Titans trade Nos. 7, 182 to Bills for Nos. 28, 60, 133 and 2025 1st
The pick at No. 7: Bills – Malik Nabers, WR, LSU
I continue to believe that anything, including a move like this one on draft day, is a real possibility for the Bills. Beane has long been an aggressive draft-day trader when he’s excited about a prospect and how he’d fit their system. Now, with a gaping hole for a top target at wide receiver and where the Bills are in their build, this is the type of move Beane could rationalize as one that puts them over the top for the foreseeable future.
The cost of doing business might be high for some, which is understandable. I’m sure it will evoke memories of the Bills’ move up the board to take Sammy Watkins in 2014. But this is an entirely different situation from 2014 — almost comically so. Back then, it was the desperate move of a franchise hoping Watkins would help EJ Manuel become the franchise quarterback while blatantly ignoring several warning signs he was not that player. Now, there’s nothing for their quarterback to prove. The Bills have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in Josh Allen, a still-talented roster around him, and a pretty good idea that they’ll be pushing for the playoffs at the very least in 2024.
By arming him with a young receiver with elite potential on a rookie deal for the next four years, it gives the Bills a lot of flexibility for how they spend through the duration of the receiver’s rookie deal. I’d liken this move more to the one the Atlanta Falcons made in 2011 to fly up the board and select Julio Jones, already with a top quarterback in Matt Ryan in place. They certainly didn’t regret that trade for a second.The recent trade of Diggs, and acquiring the Vikings’ 2025 2nd from the Texans, could empower Beane to make a stark move up the board like this one, too. With an extremely unsettled quarterback room — either starting journeyman backup Sam Darnold or a rookie — that pick has a good chance of turning into an early second-round selection. If that does happen, the Bills could easily get themselves back at the end of the first round next year, or just view their early second-round pick as their first-round pick replacement for dealing it away to get a potential game-changing receiver. For the right player, Beane will move a first-round pick.
Is Nabers worth this type of move? In a more standard draft year, Nabers would easily be the best receiver prospect by a wide margin and likely one of the first players selected. He is outrageously talented and smooth, with the explosiveness to win however the Bills ask him to. The separation is effortless whether he’s at X, Z or slot and he gets the defender to bite at his breakdown constantly. He can win with physicality or speed and will eat cushion from off-defenders alive. Nabers has excellent, crisp footwork, and his contested catch concentration is simply outstanding. On top of it all, he can be a monster with yards after the catch, either using physicality to drag defenders or his 4.35 speed to blow up a play.
Nabers has all the potential to be a star in the NFL, and with one of the league’s best quarterbacks in Allen, it increases that likelihood by a large margin. Nabers is worth the hype. But would he make everyone forget about the price tag? It certainly looks like he has all the potential to do so. And with the Bills looking like they’ll have cap space to work with in 2025, it could be the catalyst to another push toward the top of the AFC.
Rest of draft:
My god, if the draft fell into place like this, i really couldn't think of a better outcome......i'd be the happiest guy around.
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The league has really seemed to go in the way of the short routes, dink and dunk, take what the D gives you type of O systems......as compared with previous years where long balls were being fired all over the field, all game long.
Yes, we absolutely need a WR1 if not to only stretch the field, however, i see a lot of potential with the short routes with Kincaid, Shakir, Cook, etc.....I think this combination can be lethal and it seems a lot of the media are overlooking this recently with the whole Diggs drama.
We'll be fine.....i truly believe that.
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1 minute ago, Augie said:
From the article:
“With the contract adjustment, the Texans now anticipate getting the best version of Stefon Diggs, who will be in position to negotiate another long-term contract next offseason.“
Apparently they understand him already.
Well, if Minny and the Bills are any barometer, it's not hard to forecast the future with this man.
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24 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:
He was awesome both in college at Ohio State (had 26 tackles in the 1986 Michigan-Ohio State game) and for us. Too bad about his neck injury. And as a TV football analyst he was a riot both college and pro. That was one tough football player. They just don't play like that anymore. And my namesake Bryce Paup had a dam good run w us too until he tore up his groin.
Alot of players and fans didn't even know what was going on behind the scenes with his wife either, until they publicly came out and told everyone about her breast cancer and starting up the Chris Spielman Fund.
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3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
To me, that's the clincher.
In 2020, he was AMAZEBALLS in the playoffs. Deadly. Lights out.
In 2021, he was OK against NE but 3 of 6 for 7 yards in the "13 seconds" game.
In 2022, when he slumped in the 2nd half of the season, 4 of 10 for 35 yds in the Bengals debacle.
In 2023, similar 2nd half slump, 3 of 8 for 21 yards in the KC loss.
Once is an occurance, twice could be a coincidence, three times is a pattern.
It looked to me that somewhere along the way, he lost his drive, his passion or even his willingness to even be a part of this team. He always looked fairly dominant throughout the season, but when the post-season came along, complete vanishing act.....and then he has the balls to stand on the sidelines and yell at JA or stand in the endzone with his arms in the air that he wasn't targeted.
I, for one, am happy he's gone.......i didn't really like him in Minny and hated even more when he came over to us......and i just thought, "really?!?.....is this really the best we can do?"
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Well, i'm just throwing this out there, but i highly suspect that we didn't have too many trade partners on this one.
In fact, it almost feels like Houston took Diggs out of sheer sympathy.
And i can only imagine how that conversation went......
Beane: who wants him?.....we got him.....fire sale on now!
Every franchise: ......(looks at the floor......looks at the ceiling.......fails to look Beane in the eye)
Beane: anybody?
Houston: .......HC whispering to the GM, "Jesus man, look at him.....like a beaten dog, for Christ's sakes. I think he's crying.....throw him a bone and a bag of peanuts and call it a deal"
Beane: alright, we got an opening bid of one bone and a bag of peanuts.....anybody else want to get in on this?
Every franchise:......(looks at the floor......looks at the ceiling.......fails to look Beane in the eye)
Houston: we decided we're keeping the bone......bag of peanuts, take it or leave it?
Beane: Deal!!!......but i don't want that bag of peanuts until next year
Houston: Deal!!!
And in my world, that's how big business deals are done.
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2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
As I've tried to digest the hole left by Diggs' departure, I don't for a minute think that Beane is going to sit back and just do the best he can when his pick rolls around late in the first round. That just isn't his style.
We've often seen Diggs move around in the first round, and I think we will see it again. He's done little moves, of course, up a pick or two or three, but we've seen at least two big moves: Cordy Glenn and picks to move up to Cinci's pick (followed by the trade with Denver to go up and get Josh), and the Bills' first round pick to get Diggs. Two big draft-related moves to fill a hole.
It caused me to wonder what kind of things Beane could be considering now. Others of you will have much better ideas than I, and I don't really know how to gauge value, cap, and all the other things that need to be considered, but two thoughts came to mind.
Maybe the Vikings want to make a bold move to get up to the top of the draft. Maybe they have a vision for the future of a rebuilt roster. Maybe they don't want to write a big check for a receiver. Would they trade Justin Jefferson for the Bills' #1 and some other consideration? They did it with Diggs, why not again? Is Aiyuk still on his first contract? Who else has a proven receiver with a contract the Bills can afford for a year?
Or, more along the Cordy Glenn line, who's the quality starter the Bills might package with their first round pick to move up to the top 10? Does Kromer like Van Demark so much that he'd be willing to part with Dion Dawkins. Dion and the Bills #1 for the Giants' #1? What other players are good enough to bring interest but not so good that they're untouchable?
Whatever, we can be sure that Beane is doing some creative thinking.
All good points.
The bolded is a scenario i've thought about probably a thousand times already......Minny did it before, would they do it again?
I, for one, would love to have JJ on this team, however, seeing the way Beane is, he is probably done with high WR's from other teams and will probably want to get his in the draft this year, but just not where everyone thinks.......my gut feeling
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14 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Thanks for all this.
Just a little nit, the pick swap is next year's 2nd that Houston received indirectly from the Vikings, but the trade-back is this year's 6th and NEXT YEAR'S 5th (which is considered equivalent to a 6th round pick this year).
I kind of wonder if uncertainty about Tank Dell's recovery from his broken leg plays into this - if he's not 100% early in the season, they can put him on a snap count or even IR him and expect more from Diggs, but if Diggs does the mid-season vanishing he's done for the last 2 seasons, Dell should be up to speed and they can cut Diggs snaps, then move on the following year if he beefs.I frankly thought in his presser, Beane seemed a bit nervous and defensive, with good reason. He acknowledged that the team isn't as good right now after the trade: "This is by no means the Bills giving up or trying to take a step back or anything like that. Everything we do, we're trying to win, and we're going to continue to do that. It's April the 3rd, and we'll continue to work on this roster and make sure we're ready to play come September" "I mean, are we better today? Probably not," Beane admitted. "It's a work in progress, and we're going to continue to work on that. I just hope people know I'm competitive as hell, and I ain't giving in, we're going to work through this and continue to look and I'm confident in guys on the roster, and confident in the staff we have upstairs that helps me, that we'll continue to find pieces to add, and we'll be ready to roll when it comes time in September."
Did someone on NFL network really express something like "not have to worry about an aging cancerous boat anchor"? Wow if so, Just Wow - do you remember who might have said that?Sorry, i was para-phrasing.......i forget who said it, but it was along the lines of, " whether by design or character, Diggs performance trailed miserably last season, which as a WR1, you never want leave your QB in that position. If it was by design, then Brady is showing maturity and character by not allowing Diggs to dictate HIS offense and allowing JA to distribute the ball around the field as he sees fit. If Diggs decline was from his character, then it shows that he should no longer have a place on the team by tossing the boat anchor out and limiting the growth of the team around him".
You know, something along those lines.
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2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
This. All day long. That’s my beef with 13 seconds.
I'm fairly certain you can only do it once......if you try it a 2nd time, the time stays on the clock and the play is played-over on the same down.
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I was watching the NFL network last night and the whole show was dedicated to the Diggs trade.
Now, a lot of good points were brought up...
* Everyone suspecting a rift between Diggs and JA......management telling JA that they were planning to let Diggs go and no argument from JA
* Bills FO would rather cut their losses now when they could actually get something for Diggs rather than waiting a year and his stock plummeting
* Swapping draft picks (the Bills get next years 2nd and Houston gets this years 5th and 6th from us) is basically a "push" and in fact, works out better for us for next year
* Houston will not tolerate Diggs' outbursts and make sure he's on a short leash.....and basically, Houston has nothing to lose with Diggs cause if he fails, he was worth a bag of peanuts, but if he succeeds, he can be yet another threat for Stroud
* It seems both parties are happy with the outcome of the trade
* The Bills can finally focus on getting younger and creating a team properly and not have to worry about an aging cancerous boat anchor who criticizes the team/FO/HC at every turn.......that's the fans job
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Just now, Low Positive said:
You just wait until Diggs says that Stroud is better than Josh. That'll be good for at least 200 pages.
Just wait till Diggs starts sending out cryptic tweets in Houston..........it's coming.
It's hard to keep a good cancer down.
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I've got a feeling that this years draft is going to be something special.
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If anyone thinks Diggs is soooooooooo valuable to the team, just look at the back end of last season..........garbage, sheer and utter trash.
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This is what i've been saying about Diggs ever since we brought him in........he started to turn into a cancer at Minny and seems that it was starting to creep its way into this team too.
If fans can't see the beautiful horizon thats coming for this team now that Diggs is gone and the team can finally concentrate on some ball without the sideline temper tantrums, then i feel bad for them cause this team is rolling into the future on a high note.
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My god, the drama going on here today.......
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I think they have their eye on a couple of guys and are ready to pull the trigger to make it happen.
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I say we package some picks, throw Elam into the deal and giddy up......grab our future young WR, maybe 2
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57 pages in.......i'm laying odds we hit a 100 before evening.
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2 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said:
No, I’m a mature adult, 45 year fan, who uses metrics. I’m not a sycophant like you who relies on a generalized statement not even on point.
I use information and past performance to render my opinion. You clearly just drink some Beane WR Kool Aid (Jim Jones did too). I’m just a realist. Beane isn’t the second coming and look at his WR picks. Aside from the Diggs trade (which could have beenJefferson) and Shakir I remember the great Kelvin Bryant trade, Harry, Sherfield and those draft picks Zay Flowers gone ASAP, Ray-Ray McCloud (who is PR but not good WR), Hodgins (gone) and Proehl.
Yeah, I’m the one who’s wrong. And, grow up and act like a mature adult who can discuss matters.
I'm just saying relax, brother.
I see great things coming from this franchise this year.
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Honestly, i could see Diggs getting all pissy when finding out were drafting a WR in the first round, knowing that he will have to split the limelight with someone else.
Diva and drama queen?.....absolutely
Aging and self-centered?........yep
Missed?.........we won't miss a beat
Bravo Beane.........bravo.
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Sounds like Diggs wanted out and the FO granted his wish.
Suffice to say, a win-win for both sides.
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Diggs traded to Texans for picks
in The Stadium Wall
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I remember when old Buddy Ryan said that, "all he does is catch TD's" about Chris Carter. Now Buddy, an old D guy, hated when the O scored too fast and didn't give his D enough time to recuperate on the sidelines.
Now equate it to what our roster is today......
We are setting up the old "death by a thousand cuts" approach style O. We've got the roster to slice and dice the middle of the field, where we can control the clock, manage the TOP and carve up D's a little at a time, instead of in bunches.
Yes, we will find our WR1 to alleviate and open up the entire field for the playbook, but as it sits now and contrary to what the media thinks, our roster is exactly what we need it to be in order to control the middle of the field.....which is the direction opposing D's are starting to make more of a focal point.
I have spoken.