ChiGoose
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44 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:
what do you mean "there’s no evidence that I’ve found that all of those journalists were tweeting live location data)"
even in the zoom call you posted they say they posted links to the page live flight data can be found or screenshot it to circumvent it could not be posted on twitter. elon used some method to prevent any public info on his plane and the user of the site that tracks him is on record saying he built a algorythm to circumvent it. going pretty far to make private info public. thats wrong no matter who its on.
seriously what is the issue here. guy is getting threatened. guy wants private info not broadcast. people are going to lengths to posting it anyway. they get banned.
shocking. are right wing publications journalist posting it freely not getting banned? if not why is it right wing can tell the story without sourcing where to find the site that tracks him? if they are and getting banned then seems is the rule some great destruction of free speech? if elon and his family get attacked would it change your perspective at all?
The jet info is public info. There’s nothing private about it. It’s widely available to anyone who wants it regardless of whether or not it’s on twitter. It’s not secret. It’s not assassination coordinates or any BS like that. Stop pretending it’s private info because it simply isn’t in any sense of the word.
I literally just opened my flight tracker app and saw a private plane flying by (VTHMA out of Van Nuys. A Bombadier Global Express). No Twitter necessary. If I wanted to track someone’s private jet, I can do it without Twitter.
Tech journalist explains the issue better than I can: Elon Tries (Badly) To Defend The Banning Of Journalists As Twitter Starts Blocking Links & Mentions Of Mastodon
“First, he just ***** changed the terms of service to shut down the jet tracker, and made them so broad and vague that tons of tweets would violate the rule — including anyone using Twitter’s built-in location indicator to tweet a photo of someone else. Second, the location of his plane is public information. It’s not “assassination coordinates.” If Musk is worried about getting assassinated, hiding this account isn’t going to help, because the assassin will just go straight to the ADS-B source and get the data anyway. Third, I get that Musk claims his child was in a car that was attacked the other night, but there remain some open questions about that story. For example, the location where it occurred, as deduced by BellingCat, was not close to any airport.
Given that, it’s not at all clear how this is connected to the jet tracking service.
Furthermore, the LAPD put out a statement on this:
LAPD’s Threat Management Unit (TMU) is aware of the situation and tweet by Elon Musk and is in contact with his representatives and security team. No crime reports have been filed yet.
Which, you know, seems notable. Because if a stalker actually went after him, you’d think that rather than just posting about it on social media, he might contact the police?
But, most importantly, none of the journalists in question actually posted “real time” assassination coordinates for Musk. They had posted about this whole story having to do with content moderation decisions made by Musk. Hell, one of the journalists, Donie Sullivan, got banned for tweeting that LAPD statement.
So, yeah, it’s not about “equal treatment” for journalists. It’s about coming up with bull#### arbitrary rules that just so happen to ban the journalists who have been calling out all the dumb ***** Elon has been doing. Which, you know, was the kinda thing Elon insisted was the big problem under the last regime, and insisted he was brought in to solve.“
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30 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:
4chan is more free speech absolutism without much moderation. so you are in this thread talking about elon creating a moderation rule. you may not like it but if it is applied equally and with transparency then what's the problem?soo damned if you do damed if you dont.
i think you just dont like the guy.
what leftist clearly refuse to understand on this topic. it was not about having rules on a platform. it was about rules being used to only target "right wing" opinions while letting the left run wild as they please. it was happening, there is proof and seems like that is the real issue leftist have. they no longer control the site.
Musk unbanned all those Right Wing accounts and then started banning anyone who covers him critically without explanation (there’s no evidence that I’ve found that all of those journalists were tweeting live location data).He can do that. It’s his right as the owner of the platform. But it’s exactly the same thing everyone here was complaining about Twitter doing before he bought it. Now it’s all fun and games and totally fine.
He can apply the rules equally, but doesn’t seem to want to. He could actually go full free-speech but he doesn’t seem to want to. And that’s his right.
I’m just not going to pretend he is doing something he clearly isn’t interested in.
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2 minutes ago, Doc said:
No one's leaving because they have nowhere else to go. And if he loses some children throwing tantrums, so be it.
This seems correct... for now.
There aren't any options out there currently that could stand in for Twitter. Mastodon is a mess, Post is promising but severely under resourced. At the moment, Twitter is mostly working fine with a skeleton staff.
But if Twitter starts to look more like 4Chan or it suffers major and frequent outages, there's going to be a market for a new Twitter and someone will create it.
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13 minutes ago, B-Man said:
And now the transition from "FREE SPEECH" to payback is complete.
Glad we are all in agreement in dismissing that this was ever about free speech.
Carry on.
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24 minutes ago, BillStime said:
Snowflakes.
Can you tell us the last time a private jet was shot down in America?
Paranoid freaks.
It's not even that. There are multiple apps to track planes and there are plane tracker accounts on other social media sites. Removing them from Twitter does absolutely nothing to prevent someone from stalking celebrities. But he did it anyway.
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Well, he certainly knows his audience: gullible marks:
Trump NFT Collection Sells Out, Price Surges
“Donald Trump’s non-fungible token (NFT) digital trading card collection sold out early Friday, the day after its initial release.
According to data from OpenSea, at time of writing, the collection’s trading volume is 900 ETH, or about $1.08 million. Its floor price is about 0.19 ETH, or about $230 – more than double the original price of $99.
Some tokens are selling for much higher prices. The one-of-ones, the rarest of the NFTs which comprise 2.4% of the 45,000 unit collection (roughly 1,000), are selling for as much as 6 ETH at the time of writing. One of these rare trading cards of the 45th President standing in front of the Statue of Liberty, holding a torch is currently listed at 20 ETH, or about $24,000.”
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I see we have transitioned from “FREE SPEECH” to “OWN THE LIBS!”
How very predictable
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Poor little snowflake needs to be in a safe space or else he’s gonna have a tantrum.
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11 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
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8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Perhaps you don’t understand what happened
Are you saying that basically every journalist who covers Musk doxxed him at the same time and were therefore banned? -
2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
BLOODBATH!!
Oh no! Someone was publicly expressing constitutionally protected free speech! Ban them for the sake of freedom! -
Looking forward to the Twitter Files on Musk banning his critics. I’m sure it will be quickly forthcoming and transparent.
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Wheeee! More free speech! Ban any links to a potential competitor!
(Mastodon sucks, by the way. The best thing Elon could do is send people there to see how much it sucks).
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3 minutes ago, BillStime said:
Owning the libs, Chi.
I do enjoy that “owning the cons” isn’t a thing because liberals don’t spend all of their time fuming about conservatives. In fact, unlike the current iteration of the GOP, liberals generally support policies that would help the conservatives.
But in any case, I hope they all enjoy worshipping free speech apartheid emerald mine guy here.
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6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
Private company. Can do what as they wish!
Sound familiar?
And again, unless clear proof is shown of violation of Twitter policy I do not agree with these suspensions.
Absolutely. He is 100% within his right to ban anyone who points out that he got hair plugs or that Tesla is tanking or that he’s a spoiled child who doesn’t understand what he’s doing.He’s not violating any laws or causing any actionable harm by being a big baby with a soiled diaper throwing a tantrum.
But it doesn’t mean we can’t all just point and laugh at him.
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Twitter suspends journalists who have been covering Elon Musk and the company
QuoteTwitter suspended several high-profile journalists Thursday evening who have been covering the company and Elon Musk.
The suspensions come a day after Twitter changed its policies around accounts that track private jets, including one owned by Elon Musk.The accounts of Ryan Mac of The New York Times, Donie O'Sullivan of CNN, Drew Harwell of The Washington Post, Matt Binder of Mashable, Micah Lee of The Intercept and independent journalists Aaron Rupar, Keith Olbermann and Tony Webster had all been suspended as of Thursday evening.
The Twitter account for Mastodon, a platform billed as an alternative, was also suspended early Thursday evening.
It was not immediately clear why the accounts were suspended, though some had been tweeting about the suspension of the Twitter account that tracked Musk's jet, @ElonJet, and its availability on Mastodon.
As of Thursday evening, Twitter accounts operated by NBC News journalists were unable to tweet a link to the Mastodon account of @ElonJet.
Lee said in a text message that before the suspension he had attempted to tweet out a link to the Mastodon account that tracked Musk’s jet but was unable to and instead tweeted a screenshot.
The suspensions come as Musk has backtracked on his promise that he would run Twitter as a free speech absolutist, reinstating accounts associated with the QAnon movement and other far-right groups while banning others.
Internally, he has removed critics of his policies from the company.
The suspensions add to what has been a tumultuous couple of days for Twitter after the company first suspended the account that tracked Musk’s jet.
Musk appeared to threaten legal action against its creator, Jack Sweeney, a 20-year-old Florida college student, after Musk claimed a “stalker” confronted a car carrying his child in Los Angeles on Tuesday.
Musk provided no proof that Sweeney or his account was involved. He did not provide a time or location in the sprawling metropolitan area where the claimed incident occurred.
Sweeney told NBC News on Wednesday that he hasn’t received any notification of legal action, and the last time his bot tweeted anything was Dec. 12, “which is not last night, so I don’t get how that’s connected.”
The Los Angeles Police Department said Thursday that no police reports had been filed.
“LAPD’s Threat Management Unit is aware of the situation and tweet by Elon Musk and is in contact with his representatives and security team. No crime reports have been filed yet,” Officer Lizeth Loeni, a police public information officer, said in a statement Thursday evening.
There are other law enforcement departments that also cover parts of the Los Angeles metropolitan area.
I’m sure the Muskateers will find a way to defend this but it really looks like a pouty spoiled child taking revenge against people he doesn’t like. -
Free speech! Free speech! All hail Elon, champion of free speech!
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1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
You know what he posted that resulted in this ban? What was it?
He claims not to know. Other accounts similar to his (covering Musk or right wing media) have also been banned with seemingly no explanation.This isn’t at all surprising. Buying Twitter was never about free speech.
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Ah, that makes sense. Just banning anyone on the Elon beat.
Very hardcore. Very free speech.
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Huh. I thought we were finally getting free speech on Twitter…
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43 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Hmmm: Putin withdraws from annual hockey game he established
Vladimir Putin has created renewed concern around his allegedly deteriorating health after the Russian leader abruptly pulled out of an annual ice hockey game this week, RadarOnline.com has learned.
https://radaronline.com/p/vladimir-putin-pulls-out-annual-ice-hockey-game-health-concerns/
What a shame. What other elderly narcissist is going to score eight goals against people who are scared that they might be drinking polonium tea if they defend him? -
Guy who simply posts videos of right wing media now perma-banned with no explanation.
Free speech for me, but not for thee -
23 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Donald Trump Drops His 'Major Announcement,' and I Can't Stop Laughing
I’m sorry, what? Who on his team thought this was a good idea and how much are they getting paid for it? There’s no way Trump came up with this himself if for no other reason than him not being technically savvy enough (try explaining NFTs to your grandfather). This was the work of someone in his orbit looking to make a quick buck.
Still, when Trump puts his name on something, he’s responsible for it, and this feels a bit much. Serious presidential campaigns that want to help their party don’t introduce grifting NFT scams meant to deprive dementia-ridden old ladies of their cash. I mean, I thought the Save America PAC’s fundraising tactics were bad, but holy cow, this is next level.
The announcement video is incredible. Absolutely no notes. Just pure perfection.
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1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
I agree with you on this one, but people can get salty when they feel their children are at risk. Often best to avoid tangling with crazy people, crazy lawyers, and the super-rich.
Agreed. But maybe this is a good reason that best practices would be that content moderation policies shouldn’t be decided at the whim of a single individual.27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:Huh? Not even when they’re being stalked? What defensive strategy would you like “rich people” to use?
Going after the stalker is good.
Going after the creator of ElonJets because of the stalker is frivolous. The lawsuit would have no merit, no chance at success, and no purpose other than to harass a private citizen for something they didn’t do.
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We Have Reached Peak Buffoon; Where Are the Adults In the Room?
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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I was very skeptical of JB Pritzker originally because super wealthy businessmen don’t have the best track record. But he seemed focused on surrounding himself with the smartest and most talented people he could get and actually listening to them.
When he was sworn in as Governor of Illinois, our credit rating was one level above junk status and there were rumors the ratings agencies were mulling putting us through that threshold. Our bill backlog was over $16 billion and the debt service was absolutely out of control because of the high rates that come with such poor credit.
Since JB took over, we’ve received the first credit upgrade for the state in 20 years, and then got five more subsequent upgrades.
Additionally, the bill backlog has shrunk dramatically (was down to just $3.5 billion at one point), reducing debt servicing costs.
I also really like our comptroller, Susana Mendoza, who has been a big part of reducing the backlog and getting our fiscal house back in order. Her ill-fated mayoral run aside (I did some phone banking for her), she’s been an excellent comptroller.
Illinois still has a long way to go to fully recover from decades of mismanagement, but it seems like we’re finally headed in the right direction.
As a side note, during the recent election there was a joke twitter account proclaiming JB as the heir to Genghis Khan who would unite the Great Lakes under a khanate. It was mostly just silly but it was fun and not only did JB reference it in his acceptance speech, but he personally called the guy behind the account to thank him, saying that the humor was very much enjoyed by him and the campaign staff.