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3 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said:
That is correct. That is why you trade down and get two or more talented players
In a perfect world, yes. This FO has invested too many resources on Allen and need to get him help to see if he can be the guy ASAP. The Jets were desperate for a QB and the Colts got a great haul. Teams will probably not be willing to pay that high a price for a non-QB though.
In the scenario where a trade down doesn't materialize however, you don't pass up on an elite talent like Bosa for example for an inferior offensive prospect.
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21 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:
They have bottomed out, they have also found ways to keep getting deeper
And any coach or GM that ever decides that the best way to succeed is to tank deserves to be fired on the spot cause they really are not capable of doing their job. The best guys can find quality players and talent all over the draft. They also dont need certain or specific players to succeed. They can work with what the talent they have and build around it.
Not sure I agree with that, not yet at least. The prior regime did a better job of creating/coaching up quality depth imo.
Our previous WR core was at one point Watkins/Woods/Goodwin/Hogan/Harvin. With prime Shady and a great #2 in Gillislee in the backfield. Groy stepped right in for Wood after his injury and the line didn't miss a beat. Heck even Kouandjio held his own filling in for Glenn for a handful of games in 2016.
The defense had depth and talent too but Rex was just an idiot. Gilmore/Darby/Robey are all starting elsewhere, Bradham/Brown/Dareus as well.
Beane has prioritzed bringing in his own guys like KB/Tolbert/Ducasse and it really hasn't worked out.
This offseason is obviously huge for this regime. They (should) have a high pick at the beginning of every round and lots of cap space. Need to add a lot of talent and do everything they can to develop Allen.
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They are tanking. That was their plan ever since they got here and traded away talent and down in the draft (passing on Mahomes and Watson in the process) for more draft picks. Just happened to overachieve last year. This team needs to just bottom out at this point. The talent deficit is just too great, especially on the offensive side of the ball.
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I think that is what Beane is hoping they can turn him into. Cam has a 58% career completion percentage but more than makes up for it in his yards/attempt and running ability.
Getting big targets like Benjamin is the type of skillset Allen would seem to benefit from.
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2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:
Start sizing Barkley up for a Browns jersey...
Would be good for the Bills if they took him #1, but that's looking doubtful.
Either way, this is a deep draft at RB. Would probably be smarter for the Browns to land a QB and Fitzpatrick in the 1st and get a RB in the 2nd
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Yea, as i said on the 2nd page, Rap never tweeted this. Was skeptical when no one else confirmed it
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I'd be okay with this. Highest risk but highest upside of any available QB probably.
I don't see this posted on Rap's timeline though. Is this legit?
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1 minute ago, Commonsense said:
If you can't see that hat the new coach and GM are light years ahead of BOTH the old coach and GM then I can't help you.
forward thinking
team building
culture
cap implications
Hope like heck these guys pick the right QB because they can function as a pair.
McDermott is 10X the coach Rex was, not debating that.
Whaley assembled some very talented teams on both sides of the ball during his tenure here though. Top 5 defense, top rushing offenses (obviously not during the same year or else the drought would have been over sooner lol) and those players that he brought in and left to other teams have been key guys on winning teams and getting paid (Bradham/Darby/Gilmore/Watkins/Woods/Hogan/ Robey/ can even toss in Goodwin if you like).
This regime clearly has a plan, if they can execute it and find their franchise QB then they'll be successful.
I would just rather they not make the same mistakes as Rex with regards to bringing in their former guys just because they're "their guys". No more Kaelin Clays or Mike Tolberts of the world. Benjamin could be decent piece longterm, but his health and weight issues could make him a risky investment. Star remains to be seen, depends on the money and if he can make an impact or just another guy. We'll see.
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1 minute ago, Commonsense said:
Guess he forgot about Whaley bringing in bum ex Jets like IK and Leonhard.
The Tolbert signing was inexcusable but I haven't seen a good arguement as to why Star and KB can't be pieces on a winning team.
You're kinda making my point for me though.
Whaley came from Pittsburgh, not the Jets. Rex had too much pull in player personnel decisions while he was here, bringing in his below average former players. Took the 4th best defense and flushed it down the drain.
Don't even get me started on the wasted draft picks used on 3-4 players trying to fit Rex's scheme when we were the perfect 4-3 defense.
If Whaley was the one that wanted to hire Rex I'd give him more of the blame, but by all accounts he was the owner's hire.
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He's an average player that fills a need, hope they didn't overpay.
People like to complain about Whaley but he brought in talent (whether or not the coaching staff could utilize it was another story), but McBeane seems to be prioritizing their familiarity with former players (Tolbert/ Benjamin/ Star) over possibly more talented options out there (or even ones that were already on the roster when they took over in some cases).
Will be interesting to see how it turns out. What they do with the QB position (as with most regimes) will determine their fate.
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18 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:
Mahomes can certainly throw a deep ball
I thought the Chiefs were in cap hell, and thats why they were releasing a bunch of players....and now can throw 16 mill a year at Sammy? Just more fodder for my cannon when people cry about being "close to the cap" or "not having any money to sign FAs" (well, that wont be an issue anyway for the bills for many, many years now)
They basically paid Sammy what they were paying Alex Smith last year. The benefit of having your starting QB on his rookie contract.
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I've said this before, but imo a lot of mock draft experts are overlooking Lamar Jackson's potential fit with the Chargers at 17.
I'm betting Lynn is pounding the table for this guy to run the same offense Tyrod ran with Shady 2 years ago. Jackson/Gordon read option= top 3 rushing offense, and with that Defensive front 7? That's a recipe for contending for a playoff spot year in and out. A true successor to Philip Rivers one year from now where Jackson can redshirt a year and learn a lot from. Just saying that I don't think it's a given that Jackson even makes it to 21.
That being said if they don't move up I'm fine with them taking Jackson. Can sit behind Tyrod for a year and get used to taking snaps from under center.
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My Philly friends want Foles to be in Buffalo next season and re-unite him with Shady to haunt Brady twice a year
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
You gotta make the throw to get the luck.
Watching it again even if he catches it and goes out of bounds they are in FG range with 4 secs left. So yea credit him for making the throw.
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We got rid of all the speed in our receiving corps and running backs. We probably have the slowest position group in the NFL so this isn't surprising at all.
Definitely need to add some speed to the mix this offseason.
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I like Kubiak but I'm conflicted because I don't think our o-line is suited for the ZBS. They're a bunch of big strong guys that blow people off the ball, not small athletic ones.
I still have PTSD from all the wasted draft picks we used from switching back and forth from 4-3 to 3-4 all those years.
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12 hours ago, thunderingsquid said:
Jackson then Vea.
I would be on board with this if they're there. I'm guessing the Chargers would be very interested in Jackson though. Lynn would love to run the same offense we had last year and they would guranteed to have the #1 rushing offense with Jackson/Gordon. May need to move in front of them in order to land him.
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i know it's unrelated, but i didn't want to start a new thread: any news on Clay's progress?
Just that he won't practice today. Poyer is limited.
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Rooting for a tie
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Pretty sure its two years.....there is a salary cap savings but also dead cap
That would be nice, because I scrolled down to the bottom of this page http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/yearly/cap/and it had high dead cap hits until 2021 so I was a little concerned.
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Sorry, late to the party and don't want to go through 76 pages, but can someone tell me how much and for how many years is his dead money will be on our books?
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Robey was the one we could have afforded to resign easily. He was a pretty good ball hawk for us.
Robey was cut by the new regime. He was already under contract for cheap.
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We suck at running to the right
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Lamar Jackson looked improved as a pocket passer from last year in his first game. Came away really impressed.
Not sure there's been a QB with his athletic skillset since Vick.
Someone to keep a close eye on.
Go get Metcalf!
in The Stadium Wall
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I was just about to post this haha.
No effort? Not a process guy? Sureee