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Nor am I but he has been one of the best QBs in the NFL for quite some time.

I hope for more than that too but not many QBs win more than 1 SB. Most of the 13 that have, have only won 2. Aaron Rodgers has only won 1.

Yes when I am in so much pain I can't sit still for long periods. I typically dont watch programs like that so usually wont waste an hour on them

Well I disagree with them. I think this is the most physical this team has played in the McD regime. They punch people in the mouth.

Yeah, I am going to cringe everytime Cook gets the ball. Pittsburg is good at causing fumbles and Cook has hands problems.

I've never watched an episode of Hard Knocks before. I was going to watch a little bit of it and said no way am I watching this for almost an hour. I couldn't stop watching and ended up watching the entire thing lol. It actually is an interesting program. I especially liked all the field view footage of the game. From broadcast angles you don't actually realize the speed of everything on the field but this view is a whole new perspective of how fast those guys are really flying around out there.

This is not a slant route.

I agree with you, have never said otherwise nor have I ever said that to anyone. Except maybe someone like FilthyBeast or other obvious troll.

I'll have to look through and check on it. I don't remember what game it was because it was quite a while back. Pretty sure it was one we lost. It was another Davis option route. Based on leverage you said Davis ran the right route and Josh was wrong. This is pretty much the same style play and the leverage says the opposite to that argument from before. Thats why I didn't understand how it can be both. Your argument is more clear now. I don't agree with it but I thought you were arguing something else on this play. So yeah, as I said I don't agree with it. At least not completely. I understand the just eat the sack or throw it away and get 3 points argument. However, I believe the TD play is there and it should be taken. Had Davis done the right thing, at worst I believe the ball is incomplete. We disagree but thats ok. As far as what Josh Allen says, I take it with a grain of salt because he will always blame himself even if not his fault. He did make mistakes this game for sure, but I don't think this was one of them.

I'm sorry, I just don't agree with you. Thats ok. We all have our own opinions. Sure, but even those opinions have often differed.

Convince me otherwise then. Not just a Josh didnt even see Davis and he had to guess. Its obvious Allen seen Davis. He looking right at him while in throwing motion. He puts the ball right to where Davis would be if he continued that route. Thats what I see. The other things I see or think are... why would Davis, while the CB has inside leverage and its an all out blitz run a longer style route by cutting back across the defender. He practically had to plow through him to cut back across. There isn't time for that stuff with that kind of pass rush. Convince me otherwise. You may not and probably wont but I would still like to hear your best argument as to why a receiver is correct in doing what Davis did in this situation. Ya never know, maybe you will say something to convince me. It's happened before. Either way I will at least respect your thought process and opinion. Also on one of Allens ints that was similar to this, Davis did the opposite and so did Josh. You argued that Davis was correct there too. How can Davis be correct on both? By the way, I did change my mind because of your thought process on the other int. Allen should have taken Kincaid and got the first down. So see, it does happen.

I'm not really a big EPA or even PFF guy but when I see these charts on twitter I try to post them here because I know some are big on EPA and such.

I really dont understand how Gunner can keep disagreeing with this. Its clear as day. First, its throwing with anticipation. Ya know the thing everyone complained about before? Also the pressure was there, he had to get rid of the ball. Secondly, it would not have been intercepted. At worst it would have been incomplete because Davis had position on the DB to box him out. Its an all out blitz. It makes no sense for Davis to cut back across. That takes too much time.

I never said anything about being a well oiled machine. The offense has had problems. Some of that is on Allen. Some of it is on everyone else.

you can see in the last pick that Josh can see where Gabe is and it’s also where the ball landed

Thats a fair point. I'm not making a claim that the Ravens aren't better with Lamar as opposed to a backup. Obviously they are. Those losses don't mean all that much to me because sometimes its about who you play and when you play them. Their ppg wasn't all that different IIRC because I looked it up at the time. Lamar has also only won 1 playoff game and their backup was a fumble 6 at the goal line from winning the playoff game IIRC too. Miami was the 2 seed almost all year and flirting with the 1 seed. They ended as the 6th seed wildcard and will likely be 1 and done again too. Anything can happen. I still believe the Ravens team wins more games than the Bills team with backup QBs in a full season.

What I would want to see honestly is a HC change if that happened. I am back on the McD train after faltering after the Denver game. This HC has showed me something enough to get back on it. That was great head coaching over the final stretch. The Bills have no business losing to the Steelers though.

No. You were trying to say that people criticize Cook or Davis or whoever but other people can't call out Allen. I pointed out that Allen touches the ball a ton of times whereas the other guys might see it a few times a game in the passing game at best. The point is... of course their mistakes are magnified. Their percentage of mistakes is way higher. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's not even close

uh oh

Drops and fumbles. Also as fast as Cook is, he always looks slow with the ball to me. I think he lacks initial burst or something and has to ramp his speed.

Thats the whole point... its cover zero and Davis is out there trying to run circles like he has all day instead of getting his head around to look for the ball. Dude has no game awareness. All he had to do was turn around and box out the defender. The ball was thrown right to where he was. Instead Gabe too busy trying to get cute. He's still running a route and the ball is pretty much intercepted before he even looked for it.