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10 hours ago, starrymessenger said:
JuJu's action was an infraction and part of the game. Gronk's was a crime that really has nothing to do with the game of football.
This right here is the distinction that seperates other illegal hits. Talking heads calling this a 'late hit' are trying to legitimize and sweep under the rug the fact that this was an assault between plays of a football game and not part of the game itself. Scumbag admitted as much himself. This is just pretending it is not true because it can't be, too much money. CTE damaged brains and a carefully crafted insincere response.
8 hours ago, John in Jax said:It's really mind boggling, isn't it? These guys (the Bills) are grown men, supposedly strong & tough, the best athletes in the world and very competitive, yet their reaction to Tre getting drilled was one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen in 50+ years of watching sports. Hell, when we played youth hockey at the Nike rink in Hamburg back in the day, as 14-16 year olds, WE would have reacted in a much different way than the kitten-like Bills if somebody blind-sided a teammate like that.
Personally, with the incompetent NFL refs, the wild inconsistency in refs' calls week in and week out, AND the corporate office's unequal handling of justice, I think I'm done with the NFL for a while. Looking at all the empty seats in stadiums, I think there are millions like me too. Cincy couldn't even fill their stadium for that game last night with a bitter rival, and their stadium isn't even that large.
I remember watching Chief White Owl with his 'tomahawk chop' wrestle Dominic Dominucci and his sleeper hold. I guarantee there was not hundreds of millions bet on the outcome.;-)
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I would not be disappointed if they stayed put, took a qb and filled a few positions with talent while bringing in a veteran qb. Rather start with a great oline and defense and give any qb a good chance at success.
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The fact that a grinning psychopath like him can basically get away with first degree assault because he is really good at the game of football is disgusting. This event and the lack of consequence lay bare the ugliest side of this 'game'.
50 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:They didn't say it in so many words, but it they went to bat for Gronk, they're implicitly not going to bat for Tre. The NFLPA clearly has a conflict of interest here, since the discipline involved one player injuring an opposing player. They should have recused themselves from any involvement with Gronk's appeal.
Injuring a fellow player in a premeditated act of rage well after the play. A huge distinction and terrible precedent.
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Why are people saying the Bills have too many draft picks to sign all those rookies? Rookies are a lot cheaper than veterans right? Get a lot of guys on rookie deals at positions that can contribute right away and pay up for a few select proven veterans at positions that require more development.
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Calling it a late hit is an attempt to legitimize it as part of the game. It was an assault that was in no way part of a football play and Gronk even admitted it. Huge distinction imo.
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Entitled fans? Wtf is that? Entitled to what?
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At least it was during a play.
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9 hours ago, Rob's House said:
One time this guy pissed me off so I smashed a bottle over his head. He got a concussion, but I apologized, so it was all good.
I hear ya, one time I was at work and the printer kept jamming up every time I tried to use it. I got so frustrated I shoved a guys head through the wall. I was so frustrated it was crazy. I apologized to the guy and I hope he is okay, but what did they expect? Should of fixed the machine. They told me to take a week off. What was I supposed to do?
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31 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:
You make it sound like Gronk would be scared...who seriously could scare him on our team ?......it's the other way around...our players are probably afraid of him...no one will go after him...sad but true.....
If you hit him with a metal brace while he is face down after the play .........
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He has the same agent as Jimbo Fisher and has been recruiting a top class for Oregon while knowing he was going to FSU. Watch how many follow him. Seems criminal.
Sumlin to Oregon perhaps. Carousel of coaches.
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About the suggestion to press charges, he has already admitted it was not a football play. He did it because he was frustrated. The video clearly shows the premeditated nature of the assault and the intentional use of the brace. Cowardly psychopathic move.
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28 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Guys throwing punches at guys wearing helmets and pads. Not a good idea.
Evidently wearing a heavy metal club and ambushing the unsuspecting after the play while face down out of bounds is more effective.
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A true mystery for sure.?
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Is this the message the league wants to send? Winding up and smashing a face down player in the back of the head with a bulky metal brace while out of bounds, well after the play, in a move no way whatsoever part of a football play; Even admit that it wasn't, in fact you were just "really frustrated". Equals one game suspension. That is messed up. Teams can only lose a player for a game to take out a star while he is on the ground after the play is over? Wonder if those elbow braces will be more popular.
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He purposely used a big metal brace to smash the back of a guys head who is lying face down unsuspecting because the play was long over. He also wound up beforehand. 100% assault in no way part of a football play. What a cowardly despicable act by a guy 70 lbs heavier all because he was frustrated. Only one game is a joke. What a Scumbag
3 hours ago, frostbitmic said:He should be fined six figures and be suspended one game minimum. I'm all for a rule that stipulates that if you intend to injure a player and succeed, you sit out as many games as your victim.
It was a cowardly act by a complete meat head and it strongly resembled roid rage ... The league should've tested him for steroids and HGH yesterday. I'm betting he'd fail.
I said the same thing about him using. He definitely looked jacked up on something.
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I think he is using. Looked all out of control and crazy. It was 100% assault and had nothing to do with a football play. He also intentionally used the bulky metal brace to smash the back of his head. 1 game is far too lenient for such a cowardly despicable act. We don't even know how badly White is injured. Disgusting.
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10 hours ago, Jerome007 said:
No comparison between what Gronk did and what Landry did. Landry deserved to be taken out.
As for Hughes IDK what he said, but he gets flagged for it, and easily in any case. Who doesn't remember his 15 yard penalty for playfully bashing his TEAMMATE. Refs are biased and that'.
s not good.
And what with the retarded rule that 2 penalties offset 1?
You are right, what Gronk did was even worse. Landry took a vicious cheap shot at AW on the field during a play. Gronk took a vicious cheap shot on White out of bounds well after the play while he was lying face down and he purposely used a metal brace to smash the back of his head. Both of them should have experienced retaliation. Amazing to me the Bills have played Miami since then and no one blasted him.
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I don't blame him for criticizing the lack of response. Any team that I ever played on would have had Whites back on that play. The Bills took the high road and how did that work out? Somehow they were the team that was penalized 15 and had to start 1st and 25. What would have been different if someone retaliated? McDermott and the Bills come away looking soft which is not a good look for a football team. At least they were good sports and got the moral victory. When do they award the Moral Victory trophy? I feel McD Bills could win multiple years and become a moral dynasty.
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23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
They SHOULD.........but they won't.........and truthfully they would probably fail miserably if they did try and likely come out looking even worse for it.
Like that karate kick fail GIF that Royale with Cheese posted.
That is an hilarious mental picture. I would definitely keep it more simple. Nothing fancy, just a good old fashioned kick in the nuts.?
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27 minutes ago, Augie said:
Gronk apologized and will want leniency....he was “frustrated”. On that basis, 70,000 Bills fans should be allowed to storm the field and trample Brady to death.
Yep, if he gets away with this where does it stop. It was not even close to being part of a football play, just an intentional assault well after the play resulting in injury. Far more egregious than a late hit or high hit imo.
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9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
Kyle come in later and just walked right past Gronk. Dude has been here since 2006 and is apparently okay with an opponent potentially paralyzing his teammate on his home field.
At risk of being called an internet tough guy, I played many years of organized sports and if some goon stomped one of our guys like that after play was long over there would have been a melee with benches emptied. That was so far out of the bounds of sportsmanship there would have been outrage. Disgusting lack of reaction by the team, just like when Lucic ran Miller or Landry ended Williams' career. But this was worse because it was not during the flow of the game. This was more like Bertuzzi attacking from behind between play. Hopefully the result is not so tragic. Scumbag Gronkowski.
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1 minute ago, Koko78 said:
No ****. really? I'm pretty sure that no one had noticed that detail.
Playing disciplined football is for all 60 minutes, not until a player just happens not to feel like being disciplined. They acted like professionals, and no amount of whining that they should be acting like thugs will change that.
Moral Victory!!! Suck on that Pats! ?
Was wondering if anyone could clarify something
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That is a real forkin headscratcher.