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Like it or not but QBR is a stat that is correlated with winning. Tyrod has been a top 10 QBR quarterback the past 2 years. Defense, injuries, poor coaching and below average kicking has held the team back.
McDermott is viewed positively across the NFL. He did a complete analysis of tyrod and could have easily decided to walk away. Instead, he decided that keeping Tyrod gives the bills the best chance at winning. I'll side with coach on this one.
Dennison's offense is a great fit for Tyrod. He will have his best year yet.
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Excellent post alphadawg7
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You're troll game is strong in this thread. I don't get the hate. Instead of appreciating the positive traits of the QB on YOUR favorite team, all you do is shove a negative narrative down everyones throat. Give it a rest and go back to your UNC threads.
Amen
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Schedule is brutal, doubt TT looks better this year, he's not going to have the benefit of playing against bad defenses like he did this past year.
yup
Having the benefit of some healthy receiving options should offset the better competition point.
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If Whaley gets fired, it will be because of his draft record and philosophy about how to build a rosters Whaley does not place as much emphasis on the draft as others do. He prefers to build through street free agents. That's fine. He still ahs to win with them. That will be the determining factor. Not whether or not he and McDermott love each other.
I am not so sure that Whaley does not want to build thru the draft as he was groomed in Pittsburgh. However, he took over as GM of a team that had not been to the playoffs in a long time. There was an extra pressure to build a playoff team quickly. Accumulating draft picks and developing talent may actually have been what Whaley preferred to do. However, pressure from fans, media and an uncertain ownership situation may have lead him to try hitting a home run with Watkins trade.
Then the new owners bring in Rex Ryan (Rex was not even on the HC candidate list submitted by Whaley) and Rex cranked up the expectations even more with all his bluster. Anyone interested in a Rex Ryan coaching regime should read "Collision Low Crossers". I read that book after Ryan was hired and was scared to death of the future. Rex is a good guy and well liked but definitely not the type to take a patient, build thru the draft approach. Rex was able to bring in a lot of his "guys" (former Jets and Ravens). Ask yourself who pushed for Harvin or IK to be brought in? I have no first hand knowledge of the Ragland draft pick, but I feel fairly confident that this was a move Ryan pushed hard for. Ragland is a Ryan type player and he was raving about him from the moment he stepped on the field in mini camp. But of course we had to give up 2 fourth round picks to move up a few spots in the second round for him. Ryan raised expectations of winning and the Bills went into win now at whatever cost mode. And we are now paying the cost with only 6 picks in this year's draft and limited cap space due to big free agent signings like Charles Clay.
Obviously, Whaley deserves quite a bit of blame for our current situation but I do think a little perspective and context is called for when evaluating him as a GM. I believe that it is entirely possible had Whaley gone to another organization that had recent success he could have gone the route of building thru the draft. I mean think about it, Whaley was in a spot where his owner passed away and the team future was in flux. It is not unreasonable to think that he would take more risks in that situation rather than just play it safe and build thru the draft so some other GM and coach can reap the benefits.
I would like to see what Whaley can do with what I believe is a real HC. If Whaley cannot make it work with McDermott, than I would be completely on board with getting rid of him. But I would like to give him and McDermott a year or two to see if the team is heading in the right direction. Whaley has a pretty good eye for spotting talent and maybe with McDermott's vision they can make a good team.
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No. It's not. If you have to recover an onside kick to have even a shot at winning, that's indeed garbage time. Your team shouldn't treat it that way of course, but that's what it is. Your team has almost no chance.
When that's your situation, the defense is going to be playing prevent, and your offense will absolutely have a chance to get some yards if you pay for them with time and taking risks. Garbage time. Inflated passing stats.
So, sure there's a thousand-to-one chance you can win if the ball bounces almost exactly perfectly right several times. But it's wildly unlikely. And what the defense will do in that situation is back off and allow you short passes if you can deal with their rush game. This ... is what is called ... garbage time. QBs can inflate their stats with good-looking yards and results because the defense doesn't mind you doing it as long as you aren't completing long passes.
Garbage time.
When teams are expecting and onside kick the success rate happens to be about 20%. How often has Rodgers been applauded for throwing hail mary touchdown passes after his team was able to recover onside kicks. Getting within a score and having a chance with an onside kick is not garbage time.
Getting to within one score is not a thousand to one probability of winning, unless a team has to rely on Dan Carpenter's pathetic onside kick attempts (then maybe your percentage is right).
The final score often dictates what people view as garbage time. If NE fails to tie on a 2 point conversion was the 4th quarter comeback in the SB viewed as just garbage time?
First read, then respond.
I didn't say only QBs who have won Super Bowls are good enough for the many doubters out there. You either misunderstood or tried to pretend that's what I said. But it's not really difficult to see it's certainly not. Specifically, I said "There really is simply a lack of belief that he's ever going to be good enough to be part of a Super Bowl victory as a starter. " And after a year or two in the league, there was little of that kind of doubt about Kelly. Kelly looked like he was good enough. One thing that made me personally think so was his three fourth-quarter comebacks and five Game-winning drives in that one year.
So no, those expectations are pretty much the opposite of "UNREALISTIC" if your QB is someone like Jim Kelly.
But yeah, it's different when someone like Tyrod is your QB.
In fact, I find it astonishing that anyone could ever be happy with a QB who doesn't inspire the belief that he "is ever going to be good enough to be part of a Super Bowl victory as a starter." Generally out of all the QBs somewhere around #20 in league history, somewhere around one guy wins a Super Bowl once every ten years out of all ... what ... the hundred player-years of the roughly 10 QBs between #16 and #25 over that ten-year period. If you're happy with that kind of a shot, that's your choice.
But that's what concerns the large number of people who doubt Tyrod, and probably the ten or twenty people who may actually hate Tyrod or troll that way.
Fortunately for Bills fans all that matters is what the players in the locker room believe about Tyrod. And, outside of some of Sammy's comments, players on the team appear to genuinely have faith in Tyrod as their QB.
Also remember that McDermott did a patient and complete analysis of Tyrod and the QB landscape and what did he decide? McDermott basically hitched his wagon to Tyrod for the next 2 years with the belief that Taylor is a winner. That is what McDermott said he wanted from his QB when he arrived. He wanted someone who was competitive and a winner and he studied Tyrod and watched him up close and decided that this is a QB that his team could win with.
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I think the hope this year us that Sammy is healthy. If he is then we have a true #1 wr. Clay is a solid option at te when healthy and McCoy is an excellent receiver out of the backfield. Holmes will be a big body wr and threat in red zone. Brown and butler will add depth.
I think Bills will draft Oj Howard providing another receiving option for boots and rollouts. If not, i see a real possibility of them grabbing Davis/ Williams in 1st or at the very least a wr in second. That should be good enough as far as receiving weapons.
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Ooooh a new excuse. I like it.
Cincy game after the near perfect game in Seattle was mind boggling.
Makes no sense.
There was not a lot to like about the Bengals game but it was a road game coming off their bye after a really tough loss in Seattle. I think the team emptied their tank in Seattle when they were desperate for a win.
Also, AJ Green went out early in this game and this was one of the few games where the Bills defense seemed to be in control. I think our coaching staff just wanted the offense to play conservative and not make any mistakes and what that got was a lackluster performance on offense but enough to get a road win.
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Nice values, but didn't Whaley do the WR dumpster dive last year with horrible results?
Don't see why it will work now. Hopefully we add some real talent in the draft
True. But last year they signed a bunch of guys like Little, Hankerson, Salas, and eventually Hunter who have been given opportunities in the NFL. They each had some success but were not able to maintain or improve upon their success. Salas may have been good for us but he could not stay healthy.
Holmes had some success as a #2 wr but then lost playing time once Crabtree and Cooper came on board (they are 2 pretty solid wrs so that is not a huge knock on Holmes). Brown and Butler have not had much in the way of opportunities. Maybe 1 of them steps up here. Plus, with Brown and Butler you can use them on special teams.
Goodwin was a nice deep threat but could not do much else and was often injured.
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I would really love to know the answer Why that happened? If it's working stay with it. The same thing happened last season VS the Chiefs. Halftime adjustments are for when stuff isn't working.
A good lead with very good passing #'s then the floor dropped out.
I wish I had an answer to that. I'm sure Rex would as well. Games like that certainly do reflect poorly on the coaching staff and QB. The defense not being able to put up any resistance in the second half helped create a huge momentum swing in favor of the home team. This in turn fired up their defense giving the entire team life. To a man, our team appeared to have the life sucked out of them in the second half of the Raiders game. Maybe if someone stepped up and made a play the momentum could have shifted back.
On a side note, the back to back wildcat calls after the Raiders first scored in the 3rd quarter were infuriating. I hope I never see a wildcat play again with Taylor at QB. We had some moderate success with the play early on and it just was not that effective later in the season. The play makes no sense to me when you have the most athletic QB in the NFL behind center. Use the play if you have a QB who is not a threat but not with Taylor.
Back on point, those wildcat plays left us a 3rd and passing situation allowing the Raiders pass rush to attack with the crowd behind them. Incomplete, a punt and another Raiders score and it is 24-23 Bills after being up 24-9 just a few minutes earlier. Shock set it at this point and never recovered.
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He is a complete TE and i think he would be rated higher had he played in more of a passing offense.
Having him in Clay would be great for bootlegs and red zone. Plus, i have a feeling that Clays knee is not right and he may not be here much longer.
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That's fine but playoffs were on line and he was ineffective the week before vs the 26th ranked raiders defense.
Gotta man up and make a play before year 17 happens.
Taylor and the offense came out on fire in the Raiders game. Unfortunately, the wheels came off in the second half.
If there are any games i was disappointed in Taylor it would be the second half of the Raiders and week 1 against the Ravens. But every qb has bad games. Well, except for Brady.
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TT really needs to work on the hurry up & continue to use the middle of the field also. He got better at it as the season went on but it is lagging. Hoping Rico can get him better vision lanes with the PA Boots he's known for.
The hurry up is huge though. That's weekday really irked me the most.
There are a lot of things to like about Taylor's game but you are right the 2 minute offense is not one of them.
I do think that it will get better under our new coach. I just feel our overall that our team lacked with situational football. Rex was not a disciplined coach and usually the lack of preparation shows up in critical situations.
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I think it's weird the way some people lump Taylor in with Kaepernick or RG3 as athletes who play QB and aren't comfortable being traditional pocket passers. Taylor has work to do for sure, but he sure looks like a "pass first" guy to me. And when he has a clean pocket, it sure looks like he can be a traditional pocket passer, too.
I believe the west coast offense will be a good fit for Taylor and should have his best year passing.
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Why did he not make any plays in the first 3 qtrs in a must win game ?
Why did John from Hemet become frustrated after 3 qtrs of nothing following up the poopfest vs the raiders ?
Just stop please. Facts > Emotions.
Our qb made plays. Hahahaha.
Yea after the Steelers won and took a nap. Unreal.
20 whole points !!
Kinda of hard to score much when your defense is getting run over all day. It was not the best weather day and Big Ben did throw 3 picks that afternoon and at least one of them was horrendous. Only difference was Bell accounted for 297 yards which is like having a college football game stat line.
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Which is why we should have sucked for luck
Remember we did suck the year before as we were 4-12 and drafted 3rd. Luck decided to stay in school another year and Newton rose up to #1 leaving us Dareus (who is now a weight on our salary cap). Next year Fitz started out hot and faded quickly but his hot start got us to 6-10. Of course Indy tanked without Manning going 1-15.
In order to beat out Indy that year we would have had to strip everything down to go 0-16. Once you tank like that in football, it will probably take a few years to build up a roster with enough talent to compete. Even though a QB is super important, football is still not like basketball because there are only 5 guys on the court. Tanking in basketball makes more sense because 1 player can carry a team. Football there are 45 active players each week and even a great QB needs talent around them to succeed. Luck had some success his first 2 years but the team had aging talent that has not been replaced.
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I was listening to Sirius on the way home about 2 days ago and they said they are hearing from GM's they are moving away from "Mobile" QB's. Move in the pocket some sure of course, get 5-10 yards if you need to fine. But they want guys who can stand in the pocket, read defenses and throw with anticipation.
For all the "they are hard to defend" BS only one has really went to a superbowl and that is Wilson. But He still knows how to read defenses and looks to throw first.
Taylor. Kaep, RGIII are running RB's who can throw. Sorry there is no getting around this. We need a true Quarterback
The problem with that is the college game is producing many more running qbs as in the past and there are very few traditional (mike glennon type) passers in college anymore.
There are many hybrid types but most of them are not efficient enough passers. I liked Prescott last year and he falls into this hybrid category. Long story sIhort, its hard to find pocket passers from the college ranks.
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I don't think the NFL is moving back toward traditional pocket passers. The NFL has been moving toward the hybrid qb that has the ability to do both. Look at the top 4 qb prospects. All have the ability to run, some with speed and others with a little more power.
There are very few traditional pocket passers that come from the college ranks anymore. You just dont see the rivers, manning, brady types coming out. Maybe the last group would be flacco/ryan but that was almost a decade ago.
The ideal passer is Rodgers who is able to run and pass (with the emphasis being more on the pass). Look at the younger qbs like Mariotta, Luck, Newton, Wilson. All have the ability to do both to varying degrees. Even guys like Stafford and Ryan trained to get quicker and had probably their best years.
The trick is finding that player. In the meantime, tyrod is not a bad option. He fits more closely to RGIII and Kap but tt is more elusive and durable than Griffin and he has a more compact delivery and more touch than kap. Plus he throws well on the run. So while we would all want our qb to rely more on the pass you have to play to your qbs strengths and that happens to be mobility with tt and the ability to stretch a defense vertically with his deep ball.
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see above.
Maybe cover1 can link his thread from his site to encourage discussion here. But, probably not. That doesn't make him money.
I see your point to a certain extent but let the market decide. If enough people on this board feel the way you do then his posts will eventually disappear. However, if he keeps producing quality material that is worth reading and watching then I suspect you will continue to see his posts and links to his sites here because there is demand.
In the end, i come on here for one stop shopping. Most all relevant Bills news, analysis and opinions is on here. If i see something interesting here and need to open it at another site so be it. I don't much care as long as it was worth my time to do so. And in my opinion, cover1 material has been worth it so far.
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I can't tell you how much more comfortable i felt with Tate back there fielding kickoffs and punt returns as opposed to when the Bills had McKelvin back there.
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Just my opinion; however, I think most on this forum would rather read posts from cover1 than posts such as this....
I second this. Cover1 posts immediately get my attention.keep up the good work.
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A rookie to replace gilmore will also cost about 12 million less if we go cb at 10. Thats 12 mil we spent filling other holes.
Aaron has hardly played the last 2 years and im not sure i would classify goodwin as talent. Also not sure i would want to pay woods 8 mil a year with sammys contract coming up
This
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Definitely not 2013. Alonzo and Woods were solid picks. Duke Williams was not a complete bust for where he was drafted and the kicker hopkins is decent albeit not with the Bills. 2010 and 2005 were much worse.
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Kelly here in Buffalo would be a disaster for both sides.
Way too much pressure on the kid having that name, combined with a known partier being surrounded by his hometown buddies.
This. First tyrod incompletion and half the crowd will be calling for this kid to come off the bench. He has some talent but i don't see him as an elite talent. Kid has has 2 significant knee injuries already so durability could be a problem as well.
I don't see kelly being drafted before the 5th round and hopefully the Bills stay away. If Kelly has a chance to succeed it is with another organization.
Tyrod Taylor's Highlights
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by racketmaster
Still the fact remains that Denver went after Tyrod at 2 different times (FA period 2015 and draft 2016). It shows me that a quality organization like Denver believed in Tyrod as a QB. So did another quality run organization, Baltimore. They drafted and groomed Tyrod for 4 years. I believe Tyrod had 3 different OC's in his 4 years in Baltimore and all of them spoke highly of Tyrod as a quarterback. The last OC (Kubiak/Dennison) were likely the driving factor for Denver trying to obtain Tyrod's rights.
There were reports and articles linking Tyrod to Denver this year but nothing substantiated. We really don't know if Elway tried pursuing Tyrod for a 3rd time or not. And if he did not, who could blame him. Tyrod took less money to come to the Bills in 2015 and Elway was unable to get a trade done in 2016. Many reasonable people in Elway's spot might think it better to pursue different options rather than potentially strike out a 3rd time on Tyrod.
I am fairly certain that Denver and Elway had reason to believe that Tyrod was going to stay with the Bills once Dennison was named OC. Coaches and personnel guys talk, especially when at gatherings like the Senior Bowl or NFL Combine. I believe Kubiak/Dennison pushed hard for Taylor in Denver. Elway knows that Dennison is a big fan of Taylor. So the guy that had been driving the train to get Taylor in Denver, now ends up with Taylor in Buffalo and is suddenly not going to want him anymore. Of course not. And McDermott would have hired Dennison knowing full well what he felt about Tyrod. Long story short, I believe Elway had a pretty good idea that Taylor was going to be staying in Buffalo.
I really don't understand the hate from some posters on Taylor. Judging by the comments on him you would think Taylor's play was comparable to Losman, Edwards or Manuel. Taylor has played in different offenses (Cam Cameron, Jim Caldwell, Gary Kubiak, Roman/Lynn) and been able to pick them up effectively. Each of his OC's have praised Taylor for his performance within their offense. It seems likely to me that Cam Cameron is the coach who sold Rex Ryan on Taylor. Ryan had connections within the Baltimore organization and had wanted to trade for Taylor while with the Jets. Cameron was very high on Taylor from their time in Baltimore and I believe Ryan obtained insider knowledge on Taylor from Cameron.
In sum, we have a bunch of coaches that like Taylor as a quarterback (including our current HC would did a complete evaluation of Taylor). Coaches that have worked with him, see that he is talented and has a great deal of potential. His first 2 years as a starter have proven that he can be a quality starter. And I do not think he was put in the best offensive system. Roman and especially Lynn seemed more interested in utilizing Taylor as a running threat rather than focusing more on passing schemes and concepts.
And of course this is not a surprise considering who was our HC (Rex Ryan). There is a youtube video with Ryan while he was with the Jets praising Cameron as an offensive coordinator and Ryan says something to the effect that Cam Cameron was a great OC because he did not care about stats but rather winning. That he was not afraid to "take the air out of the ball" and that he had told Joe Flacco numerous times "that if he was not 100% sure he could complete a pass, he should not throw it". And he liked that he would take shots down the field. Does this sound familiar? Could it be possible that Taylor's talents were reigned in by a HC that wanted to play conservatively on offense (ground and pound) so that it would protect his defense? Not turning over the ball and running clock protects a defense and make the defense look better as well as the defensive mind in charge of that defense. Is it possible that Ryan wanted Taylor to play conservatively to help his defense and protect his ego?
I certainly believe that with a change in offensive philosophy, Taylor will have his best season yet and he may even get to passing numbers that will quiet his biggest detractors. Think about some of the games at the end of the season where the Bills decided to open it up in the passing game more than they had. Look at the Jets game at the end of 2015 where Taylor used the middle of the field much more than he had previously. What about the Miami game in week 16 this year where Taylor was passing all over the field and leading our team to almost 600 yards of offense. In both games, the Bills were out of playoff contention but playing teams that needed to win. In those games, it seems like Ryan allowed the offense to open up more because it did not effect our playoff chances. Those 2 late season performances are more of what I would expect from Taylor in 2017 (and it is no coincidence that Sammy appeared to be fairly healthy in those 2 games).