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I would be interested in Peterman but not with our 2nd. We only have 6 picks so it would be tough using one on a qb early. Ideally, i would grab him in the 4th like Cousins but since we don't have a pick there you may have to get him in the 3rd.
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I would move Tyrod to 14th on the list. His overall value is better than Flacco, Wentz, Tannehill, Newton, Manning, Bradford and Rivers.
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Your anti-Tyrod crusade is easily the most tiresome and asinine crusade in the history of TBD, and that takes in a lot of territory. To summarize, your unrelenting crusade is based on the following unrelated premises: (a) That the undeniably best QB the Bills have had since Drew Bledsoe (and probably going all the way back to Jim Kelly) sucks, and (b) an ACC quarterback whose career record against Division 1 college opponents is 6-5, is going to light up the NFL.
The thing about crusades like yours--aside from the fact that they contribute nothing to the board--is that people tend to remember them and, when they are proven to have been baseless or just plain wrong, the crusader is judged accordingly. What's particularly pathetic about your crusade is that you've never backed it up with anything except references to the opening game against Baltimore this year, the supposed NFL ranking of the Bills' passing attack in 2016, and a series of juvenile comments that quarterback X "pansed" Tyrod. Meanwhile you have never really responded to fact-based arguments of people like BADOL, who have pointed out that Tyrod, while maybe not a grade-A franchise QB, brings a lot of value to the table that cannot be easily or cheaply replaced.
This post deserves another look.
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Okay Vick was awesome. I am dumb. 50% completion rate was the bees knees.
63-54 career record
14-14 Taylor is gonna have to step his game up to reach those wonderful numbers
Not that it matters much but Taylor is 15-14 with the Bills. We should not take away the Indy win in the opener of 2015 just because Bills decided to have Cassel take the first snap.
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Because throwing more interceptions will lead to more losses. Throwing more interceptions has to be offset by positive results, like throwing 10+ mote td passes.5 more INT's would equal an average of 1 INT per game. If that leads to a total of 3 more wins and a guaranteed playoff spot.
What is so hard to understand?
And since we need 3 more wins in your scenario we cannot just offset the interceptions but we have to have even more positive results from the qb in order for that qb to mitigate the added interceptions and add 3 more wins.
And there is no magic formula for this above scenario just trying to make sense of this argument.
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transplant, if you don't know people troll the internet for their own amusement, then you are mistakenly unaware.
I've known hundreds of individuals since the net was born who purposely post inflammatory, off topic or extraneous posts on websites in an effort to stir up drama or post insults.
if this is true, then you wife is correct.
INT's are frowned upon transplant, that is not the point people are trying to make.
I'd gladly accept 5 more INT's a season if it leads to 3 or more wins. Adding 3 W's to 2015 gets the Bills 12 wins and a WC spot. Add 3 W's to 2016 gets the Bills 10 wins and probably a WC spot. Hell, if the Bills had 9 wins going into week 17 the Bills would have played TT against the JETS.
The only way that adding 5 more interceptions would lead to 3 more wins is if that qb threw for at least 10 more touchdown passes. And it would probably require more than 10 to offset the damage done by the 5 interceptions and still lead to 3 more victories.
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Don't defame my boy Dominique Wilkins like that.
Shame.
There is something we can agree on. Loved watching Dominique Wilkins play.
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For those that might be feeling bullied, do NOT apologize for enjoying the Tyrod Taylor highlight video. This thread is getting carried away with haters.
That is all.
I enjoyed watching it. Taylor is really what Ray Lewis said he was in 2011 "the human highlight reel".
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They have had the opportunity to do so at least twice. Yet they didn't.
so..... ask yourself, why is that?
Why? Because tyrod decided to take less $ and come to buffalo where he could start right away. He had been sitting behind flacco for 4 years and did not want to wait behind Manning.
The second time was the bills deciding not to trade tyrod to Denver at draft last year. If bills send an offer to green bay for rodgers and they decline said offer, it does not mean the bills no longer want rodgers. It just means they could not get a deal done and most teams then move on to explore other opportunities.
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Tyrod does play like Osweiler. That part sounds right
This statement eliminates any remaining credibility you may have had.
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The Broncos were going to replace Peyton Manning with Tyrod Taylor in the playoffs? Wow, congratulations.
You are a full, card carrying member of the CoT!
As i said before, Osweiler played 6-7 games in a row to close out season because manning was nursing an injury. Manning was rated one of the worst qbs in the NFL in the games he had played before sitting down to rest. Osweiler played decent and there was still much debate as to who denver should start in playoffs. Osweiler is not very good and it is certainly possible that had tyrod come in and played like he did in 2015 that denver would have continued to ride him.
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Tyrod Taylor was going to start over Peyton Manning? Please.
Maybe you missed it, denver tried signing him as FA in 2015 and trading for him around draft in 2016. But since Manning almost lost his job to Osweiler in 2015, i am sure that Tyrod would have been starting for denver in the playoffs.
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They wanted him as a backup, not to "run their offense".
Sure whatever you want to believe. I am certain Elway was trying to trade for tyrod to back up Siemian.
Since Dennison views tyrod as a backup, i wonder who our starter will be this year.
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doesn't Dennison run the WCO?
seems to me that you need to be strong in all the departments Tyrod is weak in. the WCO features a short passing game with plenty of passes over the middle. not to mention you need to anticipate where your receivers are going to be, before they break.
could very well be a recipe for disaster.
Again, I'll defer to the actual professionals that believe tyrod is a great fit. Your logic makes no sense.
kubiak and dennison praised tyrod in Baltimore.then wanted to bring him in Denver to run their offense. If he was a disaster waiting to happen in this offense then Kubiak wants nothing to do with tyrod. And don't think that Dennison did not pull for tyrod to stay in buffalo as he and tyrod have remained close. His mobility and ability to throw on the run make him a very good fit.look how well jeff garcia did in the wco.
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I don't like to see any teams move and feel for the fans of Oakland. It will be a mess the next 2 years until they find a home.
From a football view, this likely will be a negative impact on the Raiders performance on the field. It was tough for the Browns, Oilers and Rams as a team no longer has a true home field advantage.
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Are the Bills Tyrod haters for deciding that Tyrod didn't play well enough to get the contract option picked up? They saw that he wasn't good enough. Only Tyrod taking a massive paycut kept him here.
Of course the Bills are not haters. They are willing to pay him $30m plus incentives over the next 2 seasons. Sounds like they kinda like him or otherwise they could have found another veteran out there to play for $5m per season.
Again, if you think Tyrod is bad then you must not be optimistic about our HC. McDermott hired an OC who really likes Tyrod and there has been a complete analysis of Tyrod done by this coaching staff. They believe they can win with him and i am siding with the professionals on this one.
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Roman wanted Tyrod to be a bigger passer like in practice but when the pressure was on Tyrod wasn't able to do it. The gameplay for Baltimore was to make him be a QB something Roman also wanted. Just not good enough, he plays like a backup, hand off and run over throwing.
What is there to say to this. You and other Taylor haters are so far down the rabbit hole in blaming Taylor that you can no longer be reasonable.
I took a break from these Tyrod debates for a reason and somehow allowed myself get sucked back in. I have exhausted all reasonable arguments (from stats to teammate and coach opinions). None of it seems to matter so we will just agree to disagree and wait for the 2017 season to play out.
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Do you remember years ago when Miami rushed for over 200 yards against the Bills and the Bills won?
I do.
Ricky Williams had a huge game against the Buffalo Bills, but the Dolphins lost 38-21 at Orchard Park. His 228 yards rushing (27 carries) is still a team record.
Same season Minnesota rushed for 213 yards and Lost in OT to the Bills.
Stuff like this happens. We need an offense to be able to overcome a poor defense.
I remember the games but not the details. without going back and researching it what were the other factors (turnovers, weather, passing, special teams etc). Just because a team runs for over 200 yards does not mean they automatically win, but it does make thinks much more difficult because the other team is controlling the clock and limiting your offenses opportunities.
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Correct 28-25. 8 points coming in garbagetime after Taylor failed over and over and over against a terrible Miami defense.
Did you forget already. All the defenses fault. Nevermind Taylor stunk
CoT membership granted, this is how you do it.
According to you, everything Taylor does is in garbage time.
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Nobody is going to convince any of the Tyrod haters that he is a quality starter. But if you are a Tyrod hater, ask yourself this: Do I believe in HC McDermott? If you like McDermott and believe he has the potential to be a very good HC than you should trust in his most important decision, keeping Taylor.
McDermott did a complete analysis of Taylor's game and he determined that he can win with him. If you believe in McDermott then maybe we should respect his judgment on Taylor as a quarterback. Why would any smart, young, methodical, detail-oriented HC come in and tie himself to a quarterback who can't play? It does not make any sense. Taylor can be a quality quarterback and he he will be even better in an offense that better suits his abilities.
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14-28 221 yards. Nice score in garbagetime to get him there.
Try again.
You mean the game we lost 28-25 and the other team had a running back go for over 200 on the ground. Yes, Tannehill carried Miami with his 15-25 for 204 yards and 1 TD. Nice try.
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So now the CoT are blaming Rex Ryan for Tyrod's inability to throw the football? Without Rex Tyrod might still be an obscure backup.
I like the idea that TT will be unleashed on the NFL next year. You gotta Billieve!!
Not true at all. Several teams were pursuing Taylor in FA 2015. Taylor indicated in an interview after arriving in Buffalo that there were several other interested teams. Had Taylor signed in Denver he would have certainly been the starter after Manning retired.
As far as blaming Rex for limiting Taylor as a passer, I think it is completely reasonable. Do you not think coaching philosophy and schemes matter. If your objective as a coach is to protect the football, not make mistakes and control the clock by running the ball it should not be a surprise when at the end of the year your QB is on the bottom in passing yards.
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IMO After week 8 of each season, this was the game plan for opponents. Stop the run game and you stop the Bills offense.
As I just posted, it was not just one game. It was many.
There were many games Taylor and the offense were held to 7 points or less? Must have missed those weeks.
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Miami pantsed him in the 1st game.
Yes, your right in a game where our defense got gashed for over 200 yards on the ground could not get off the field our QB got pantsed.
Top 50 EMPLOYED QBs
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I am looking at it currently and what to expect for the 2017 season moving forward. I think it is close but I would take Tyrod over Newton for a few reasons: (1) Newton has been beaten up physically the last several years (plus had the car accident) and I believe it is starting to take a toll on him and his play. Newton has not developed as a passer enough where he can rely mostly on his arm. He still needs to be a threat on the ground and I just see his body beginning to break down. His running style was never to avoid hits but run thru tacklers and you don't get a lot of longevity in the style of play. Because Tyrod has not played as much and because his style of running is more elusive (avoids more big collisions) he has more juice left in the tank. (2) I think Tyrod is a better leader and teammate. Newton may have matured some but on the scale of attitude he is much more like Cutler than a Peyton Manning. (3) Work ethic goes to Tyrod as well which may be part of being a better teammate but I also believe it allows Tyrod to become a better player. I believe Newton has more interests outside of football and I don't see the same level of commitment to get better. Overall, I believe we have seen the best of Cam Newton and he is a declining player where as I believe Tyrod can get better, especially in an offensive scheme that suits his abilities.
As for Rivers, it is similar. If the Bills trade for Rivers today we do not receive the 2007 version of him. We get present day Rivers who can still put up big numbers from time to time but so did Drew Bledsoe near the end of his career. Rivers has zero mobility and must have great protection to have team success. He is another player in decline who is close to retirement. He is no longer giving consistent performances and is prone to turning over the football (I believe only Ryan Fitzpatrick had more turnovers than Rivers last year). Everyone says that it is a QB driven league and the Tyrod haters constantly blame him for his 15-14 record the past 2 years. When does Rivers share some of the blame for his 9-23 record the past 2 years?