Boatdrinks
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I don't like the guy but there is one reason the Jets are 5-4 and the Bills are 3-6. The Bills have a much better all-around team than the Jets but the Jets have gotten much better QB play.
You WAYYYY overvalue the Bills players. That JETS D is for real, and they stopped Brees at the end. Guarantee the Bills lose if Brees has the Ball at the end like that. JETS are much more tough than the Bills. We play soft offensively and turn it over. Geno has looked like crap at times, like any rookie. Rex Ryan is a hack of a coach.
smith has been injured and out of the line up for how many games?
Jets D is superior to Bills by far. Geno has been inconsistent.
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Thank you
one week and it's Hackett is run run run predictable, He throws for it on first down and now he is pass happy. I thought was a great play call poorly executed.
Hackett called possibly his best game to date. The pass was higher risk as it was over the middle, but expecting that QB to make an intelligent read there and not get his go-fetcher stuck in his throat was maybe a bit much. A lower risk(lower reward) pass maybe, but no problem with a pass there.
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Yup. They rushed for what, 200 yards today? But they decide to get cute on the goal line with a virgin QB.
Even a FG there puts them up by 10.
They didn't get "cute". They were stuffed on the 1st two runs with jumbo personnel. A pass isn't crazy there, but a sh!##y pre snap decision by a UDFA QB. A lower risk pass, maybe but KC is not a come from behind high flying offense. No problem going for a kill shot there, as a 14 point lead and you probably cruise to a win.
So it's ok for him to make a deep pass for a TD (the Goodwin one) but we shouldn't ask him to make a read like at the goal line?
The deep pass is actually the easiest throw to ask a young QB to make. It's a go-route, one read, quick drop throw with air under it. The goal line throw in the tight window with lots of defenders in the way is much more difficult.
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Stevie was wide open. It was the right call, Tuel read it wrong.
Stevie was wide open. It was the right call, Tuel read it wrong.
Don't know if the DB blew the coverage or jumped the slant to the inside, but SJ was wide open. What Tuel did there was make up his mind at the line where he was going to throw it. A cardinal sin. He was gifted a TD if he read the defense, but instead he decides pre-snap and throws a pick-six. Perhaps Hackett should've called a lower risk pass such as a fade. Low % pass, but low % of a turnover.
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With percentages favoring the offense, Marrone should have communicated with Hackett on 1st down to run the ball on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down as we will be going for it on the 4th down.,
Don't know if they would have gone for it, but too trusting of your green QB to make a throw over the middle there? I always like lining up with two TE's (like they did on downs 1 and 2) have the TE block down and release into EZ and a nice play fake by the QB. It works or not, but not gonna be a 100 yd INT return.
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You make it sound like tuel had time to make more than 1 read on the goal line. He was being hit when he threw.
He had time to make the read. Shouldv'e been a Bills TD. He decided pre snap to throw that ball, just like vs CLE
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So why not run to the right where they have had success or play action bootleg...shotgun spread at the one is dumb
A nicely designed play that would work with any kind of decent QB. If the KC DB stays with his man, It's a TD to Graham. If he blows is inexplicably like he did, your QB should see the wide open SJ in the middle of the endzone. A giant deuce on top of what was looking like an improbable upset win by Tuel.
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Yes, they should have stayed on the ground there and took 3 points if necessary. A horrible play by Tuel, even after a timeout. Inexcusable and the most basic read you could ask a QB to make in a goal line situation. The Coaches let the air out of the balloon there.Yeah, who'd ever think a guy who was 4-22 in college and undrafted would make a poor read and decision in his first NFL game.
Coaching staff must be shocked.
If they go on to lose this game, hang the blame firmly where it belongs: the coaching staff.
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Why put it in the hands of a rookie (who is pretty poor really) when you have two great running backs and a competent 3rd? Idiotic call by Hacket
I don't usually defend him, but he ran something like 13 of the previous 15 plays to that point. The yardage called for some kind of pass, a run would just be a very short punt there. Went with the easiest safest throw though it was a low percentage play.
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How can anyone defend Hacketts play calling
It's actually the best I've seen to date. He was clearly scared to DEATH to let Tuel throw anything but a go route on that last series. I can't blame him, but you've gotta press on with the card you've been dealt. The lead is now relinquished and a likely win just turned into another horrifyingly mind- numbing loss for this continually moribund franchise.
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I am so sick of this god-forsaken franchise being absolutely humiliated on national TV. First and goal at the one and the QB decides PRE SNAP where he is going to throw. All he had to do was flip it to Stevie who was let go into the endzone. Rarely is a game TRULY decided on one play, but you went from up 17-3 to tied. Now a loss will follow when it looked so promising. All those yards and plays for naught. Absolutely disgusting play by Tuel, who was decent to that point.
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If there is a top QB there with the Bills first round pick and EJ has shown next to nothing in progress, Bills would be stupid not to take him. Whats the downside? EJ's confidence? Please, its the NFL and these guys are adults.
It comes down to if the BILLS think EJ has shown "next to nothing" in terms of progress. I don't believe THEY think that. It doesn't matter what fans think. Put me on record as saying short of a catastrophic injury or EJ Manuel looks like Jeff Tuel the rest of his games this year, the BILLS will NOT draft a first round QB in 2014. Hardly earth shattering news.
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And YOU are opposed to two good young QBs? You too aren't reading what I've written. I didn't say draft a first or second or third round QB. I said if there is one there and you believe in his ability then go get him. What are you disagreeing with?
I agree with a selection of a QB at some point as I don't see a solid backup on the roster. Folks who ARE talking about a round one QB in 2014 are kidding themselves. This just isn't done in the NFL. Not saying I agree or don't, it just isn't done, and the Bills don't have a track record of being trend setters.
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I agree 100% with your thought process --- a franchise QB is by far the most impactful position in the NFL and you could argue any position in any team sport --- the only thing I can think of that comes close is a dominant center in the old NBA --- I wished for one thing this season regarding Manuel --- obviously I wanted him to be "the guy" -- but as important, I wanted the Bills to know one way or another --- right now, I don't know --- I've seen good and I've seen bad --- not enough of either to say for sure --- I believe the Bills will error on the side that they've seen enough good to stick with EJ --- my issue, is that the Bills selected their franchise QB in a WEAK QB draft --- the 2014 draft will be a STRONG QB draft --- even if Bills pick in the 10-15 range, their will be QB's with higher grades coming out than EJ --- again, I want EJ to succeed and be the guy --- hopefully he'll prove that the last 5 --- or last 7 depending on the truth to the rumor
2012 was considered a "strong" QB draft beacuse of the rare Andrew Luck and RGIII combination. The next two "highly graded" QB's were Brandon Weeden and Ryan Tannehill that had all of one starting season. The grade on the second two is incomplete at BEST. Look, the point is 2013 lacked the star power of a Luck (a once in 20 years type guy) and RGIII that came on late. Most years don't have those guys. I give the Bills credit for having conviction and getting their guy. We'll see ho it turns out. A fair criticism is that they passed on so many others that were available to them in previous years, and were not high or even 1st round picks. They were late to the party, and that was a lack of foresight, guts on their part. The EJ Manuel story is still in its early stages, partially due to injury. They will probably stay the course as their is no Luck type available in the 2014 draft. You'd have to believe they would take that guy if he were there, but unless they end up with a top 3 pick, don't look for a QB selection in round one,2014.
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OK, I'll mark you down as "wait 3-4 years."
Do read what I've written though. If you have the ability to get the QB you believe in you go get him.
I think the Bills got the QB they (still) believe in. It doesn't matter what "YOU" have the ability to go get. What the Bills are going to do is probably quite different.
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That's why the opponents are blitzing. Very hard to run play action, which are slower developing plays, vs the blitz. See the New Orleans game for examples.
I say run it right at them. If the Bills are going to develop a dominant run mentality then they have to believe that they can run it on anybody, regardless of front or personnel. Mix in some quick slants, screens and the occasional max protection deep throws and that's your best chance, IMO.
Bills opponents are blitzing because the Bills have inexperienced QB's that haven't shown they can beat it. Smart defensive coaching. Play action will be effective vs stacked fronts if used on early downs or 2nd and shorts. Hackett usually waits until 3rd and 4 or more to throw then tries play action into a blitz due to the rather obvious pass that is coming after two short gains on running plays. It is all about timing and feel with play calling and NH is poor at this.
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For all his attributes during college, he did not win a lot there. And the NFL games is on another planet speed-wise. Hoping for the best but won't be surprised in the least with a blowout
Right. He was on a bad team in college. His drop back/release is very slow by NFL standards. Look for several turnovers and a probable blowout if he's in the game an appreciable length of time.
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EJ has proven two things so far; he is injury prone & can't consistently hit the deep ball.
Hardly enough of a body of work here for "proof". One big hit to the knee that could very well have been catastrophic but wasn't. EJ has hit deep throws, but it isn't all on the QB. For example, the fastest Bill, Goodwin missed all but 1 and 1/2 quarters of EJ's games. Graham ran poor routes vs Jets, and EJ had little protection. He hit several nice deep throws to Woods and SJ. But 4.5 games is not enough of a book on EJ to say what he cannot do.
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I get the lack of confidence in our offense scoring points, but I don't get these predictions that the Chiefs will put up 30+ on our D. Not going to happen. Our defense has been responsible for 30 points once: Brees. Alex Smith & his receiving corps <<<< Brees.
It sounds like a lot, but I can't say I just see the D folding (though they are a middle of the pack D at best). Tuel will probably commit multiple turnovers, high % of 3 and outs, etc. This will lead to many more scores than would be the case if you could be efficient on Offense and flip the field position, etc. Season lows on offense for the Bills today will lead to season high for points allowed.
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Well, for one, he hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy. That aside, where and when has he shown plenty of promise?
I like him, but he's throwing at a 56 completion %. Was already sacked a bunch of times also.
He had some bad luck on one sideline hit and is missing time. Not a catastrophic injury nor a trend of nagging injuries. The completion% is likely skewed by a bad outing vs Jets and being asked to throw largely in obvious passing situations by a rookie OC that doesn't understand risk vs reward. Many QB's completion % is pumped up by easy throws on 1st and 2nd downs vs run looks. This is the "new" running game in the NFL. A foreign concept to Hackett. I believe the % would be much higher with more effective play calling, i.e. giving EJ easy completions on early downs to get him in rhythm/ build confidence, and avoid 3rd and long obvious passing situations where defenses tee off. The Jets have done a good job of this, though you still see inconsistency in a rookie QB.
However, the Bills simply will not take a QB in round one unless they have maybe the 1st or 2nd pick. There is no Andrew Luck in this draft and EJ is pretty much assigned an "incomplete" grade unless he is back very soon. He hasn't shown that he is incapable of doing the things a franchise QB must do, so they will go with him another season or two. You just don't see NFL teams take QB's in round 1 back to back years. A catastrophic injury might be the only circumstance where this might happen.
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Also like to say thanks for the upbeat tone in regard to Tuel !
I was telling my son how much i would love to see Jeff redeem himself by showing off what he was doing at St John Fisher.
Go Bills
We'd all like to see that, but looking decent vs Bills backups with a red vest on is quite different than facing live NFL bullets. The guy looked scared vs CLE and laid a major egg. Not what you want to see from a QB. TL showed in his 3 starts that while he may not be an elite athlete, he's one tough S.O.B. A team can follow that lead. Tuel looks softer than baby poop and the team must see that. The guy really needs to show something major early in this game to win the confidence of his team. It doesn't look like he has it in him.
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If the game comes down to turnovers it would be a miracle result for Bills.
It would also be another bad sign for the Bills. KC is something like +20 in takeaway/keepaway (as Marv used to say). Bills might be + 2 or somewhere in that range. Advantage Chiefs.
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reverse
flicker
end around
RB pass
1 or 2 of these today need to put a little bit of wonder in the KC DC's mind so we can try to operate without being suffocated.
These are all things that I cringe when I see them used in an offense that is struggling. It's like waving a white flag. They are only effective in an offense that is functioning well. The Bills would be well served today with frequent play action. KC will be stacking the box and likely to bite on play fakes. Some well timed screens on passing downs would work well. Hackett,however, will continue his maddening propensity of putting his inexperienced QB in the WORST situation possible ( 2nd or 3rd and long) by calling runs on 1st down and probably 2nd as well. Tuel will then be strip sacked and fumble multiple times and the game will be over as soon as it starts. The only positive could be that Tuel gets knocked around and Flynn comes in. Tuel doesn't seem to have the fire in his eyes that it takes to be an NFL QB. Vs CLE, he looked like a suburban kid that got dropped off on the East side of Buffalo. He had the same look after the first play last week when TL took a big hit and seemed as though he would be out awhile. Not a good sign. The guy looks like he knows he's in over his head. If Tuel plays more than one quarter, I'd say our chances of winning are under 5%. Call it 31- 6 Chiefs. I hope I'm wrong.
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20 passes from a rookie UDFA seeing his first NFL action coming off the bench in prime time in the 5th game of the season on the road told me everything I'll ever need to know about the guy. If you can't be cool collected & proficient in that scenario what hope is there?
Right. The lack of "reps" thing being thrown about here is ridiculous. In that scenario you go on adrenaline and muscle memory. The guy came up tremendously small in that dept. He looked completely shook and terrified to be on the field. That said more than anything else about him, and is the reason I have zero confidence in him being anything other than a train wreck if he has to start tomorrow. The Bills really screwed this one up. They should have kept TJax (notice how quickly Seattle took him back?) over an injury prone Kolb. When the inevitable happened, they were caught with their pants down. They kept Tuel, not because he was so good and might get picked up by another team, but because he was the ONLY healthy QB that knew the offense! A gross miscalculation that is costing them any place in what has shaped up to be a rather middling lot of wildcard contenders. A shame that the PIVOTAL game of the remainder of this season has come to this. Even after just two weeks, I would start Flynn or activate Dixon. I never bought the preseason hype over Tuel and he's been exposed as a non talent with no sack to play the game at the NFL level.
Your favorite Hackett call of the day
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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You people just don't get it. Deep go route is the EASIEST pass for a QB. Not surprised at all that he'd let Tuel throw that all day. Didn't see any deep out cuts, that tells you a lot about Tuel's arm strength. Deep go is a pretty ball if completed, but it's an easy one read throw for a green QB.