SouthNYfan
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11 minutes ago, eball said:
It's not that you respond...it's that you respond with continuing idiocy, digging in your heels with a position that is ridiculous.
Fact: nobody said it was "likely" or "easy" for the Bills to win 12 games
Fact: you called a poster who said "12 wins is achievable" crazy
Fact: when it was pointed out that calling someone "crazy" isn't cool, you doubled down on your position rather than engaging in reasonable conversation
Fact: you've contradicted yourself numerous times since then
Really, just give it up. You're not good at this.
Fact: a prediction is what you think will happen, which means you feel it would be likely
Fact: I never called @ShadyBillsFan crazy, he, in fact, said "call me crazy" and "us crazy bills fans", I responded to that saying that prediction was crazy
Fact: I doubled down, but the conversation was completely reasonable. I actually provided factual evidence to the point of 12 wins is not easy to attain, you went on some terrible math rant about playoff teams, which I responded to, and corrected it, and you conveniently ignored that and disappeared until a mod came back to respond the next day.
Fact: I do not believe I contradicted myself, if I did, feel free to show me.
Really, I'm better than you at this.
You chose to disappear until a mod showed up talking about be hijacking a thread, which you were a part of as well, and decided to throw your two cents in after the fact.
YOU went on a crusade to defend @ShadyBillsFan, saying I called him crazy.
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2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:
Congrats, you’ve successfully hijacked the thread. ?
Give it a rest!
7 minutes ago, eball said:I've found this board brings out the absolutely worst form of stubbornness in some people.
I didn't know I wasn't allowed to respond to people directly quoting me?
Is that against the tos?
Did I violate any rules?
Show me if I did.
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5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
Yep.
Again, offseason isn't over. Perhaps they still make a trade for a big time WR.
Dont see it happening but you never know. Feel it's a bit of a disappointment they haven't swung for the fences for a big talent WR. Thought it was priority number one for this team.
Might swing for the fences with a guy like Metcalf in the draft
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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:
Well the offseason isn't over but I tend to agree and have been saying it despite all their moves..... they haven't done enough at the WR position... and the front 7 as a whole is still an average to below average unit.
I guess I'm just saying that the personnel changes we made vs those other examples of big win leap teams aren't on the same level
Getting a wr talent like obj or ab (regardless of their personality issues) and a defensive guy like Frank Clark, combined with Allen making a leap, is what it would take I think
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3 minutes ago, SWATeam said:
Interesting logic.
It's either "easily attainable" or only possible with divine intervention.
How would you classify possible but unlikely?
How about possible but highly unlikely?
I would like to believe Divine intervention would be
Brady retiring tomorrow.
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1 minute ago, mead107 said:
19-0 Baby
Ol' faithful ?
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3 minutes ago, SWATeam said:
Please point me to what gave you that opinion.
14 minutes ago, SWATeam said:I don't think I need to be sensitive or defensive to point out that it would not take a "miracle" to win 12 games. That point doesn't stand.
Well saying you don't think it would take a miracle to reach 12 would imply that you feel that it is not a crazy win total, thus you are sure it is attainable.
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2 minutes ago, SWATeam said:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying... The very next step after "easily attainable" is a miracle...
Well you seem pretty sure they can get 12 wins
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3 minutes ago, SWATeam said:
I don't think I need to be sensitive or defensive to point out that it would not take a "miracle" to win 12 games. That point doesn't stand.
So you're saying that 12 wins is easily attainable and wouldn't need a miracle?
Got it.
I'll see you after the season when we don't have 12 wins and this place is full of excuses why.
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9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
Why do people insist that it's only possible to make tiny increments of progress year to year?
The Rams went from 5-11 in 2016 to 12-4 the next year. Look at the Bears this year.
8-8 to 9-7 is a mediocre team. I expect more.
They went to 11-5 not 12-4
They got some really good receivers
Gurley and Goff both made mega leaps
Oh and the biggest one?
They fired Fisher and got a new coach, mcvay
Bears did the same
Went from 5-11 to 12-4
They changed coaches (fox to nagy)
Mitch made a nice improvement
They got a really good receivers
And the went and got Khalil Mack
I don't think we did enough at receiver or in general free agent wise to make the leap that those teams made
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5 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
Maybe we can make a "safe space positive only thread" where we can give out rides on unicorns and cuddle.
open mouth, insert foot.
Nah.
You gave a rude response so I pointed it out.
My point still stands that people get sensitive and defensive when somebody points out unrealistic expectations.
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2 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
hell bent, aren't you.
don't worry, if they don't get 12 you can come back and throw the "I told you so" dirt around.
meanwhile, no harm in believing they can.
enjoy the season
7 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:maybe you should take a long walk off a short cliff. I point you out because you're right, discussing win predictions is what it is but you seem to have this issue with 12 win predictions and even go as far as to call people crazy or their kool-aide drinkers because they may see 12 wins. then go as far as to get cocky with your last sentence there, real class there mac.
no, that will be the last word with you in this discussion, or any other for that matter.
Rude.
Telling someone to walk off a cliff.
12 wins is an elite threshold.
You didn't point out I was right though.
You actually, in a condescending way, told me that I could come back to throw around I told you so dirt.
I re-quoted your post, in case you forgot.
You basically, as I said, seem like you need a safe space for people pointing out that 12 is an unrealistic prediction.
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Am I the only one who realized he called him "Tremaine EDWARDS"?
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5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
Exactly. 12 wins is uncommon, and really the domain of the league’s elite. Can the Bills make the playoffs as currently constructed ? Sure, but there is a signicant leap from “ playoff team” to 12 win division champion. When the Bills have a proven superior QB, a proven stud WR and top OL to go with a strong defense 12 wins could be realistic. Right now, it’s a long shot.
Which is why I said 12 wins was a crazy prediction.
Don't be realistic though, that gets you the "hater" moniker as people get the pitchforks and torches ?
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21 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Or won a game the Refs stole from them in the playoffs RE Brady
I heard Gilmore didn't commit pi though
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17 minutes ago, corta765 said:
I think really for any team even the best any more then 12 wins starts factoring in some luck and fortunate circumstances. The Chiefs really should've lost a game or two more that they squeaked out last year.
Nah bro
12 wins is ez pz around here if you go through the thread ?
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4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:
I would say greater than 50% of this hinges on Allen's development. If he has a second year leap similar to many of his peers, 12 wins is POSSIBLE. Unlikely, but possible.
Best thing about the schedule is the lack of 2000 mile road trips, but we already knew that. I get that the schedule is interesting for logistical purposes(those attending games), but it's really not that important in the grand scheme of things. Win the games you play and good things will happen.
Agreed.
I said that if Allen leaps like many of his peers recently 12 is attainable, though still not likely.
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16 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
hell bent, aren't you.
don't worry, if they don't get 12 you can come back and throw the "I told you so" dirt around.
meanwhile, no harm in believing they can.
enjoy the season
No harm in being realistic either.
It's a thread discussing win predictions.
Making unrealistic predictions is going to get a reaction.
Maybe we can make a "safe space positive only thread" where we can give out rides on unicorns and cuddle.
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11 minutes ago, eball said:
You're really not making very skilled arguments.
12 teams make the playoffs each year. You're admitting with your numbers above that at least one-third of playoff teams win 12 or more games each season (4.6, to be precise). Usually at least two per conference. In 2011 half of the playoff teams won that much.
If we look at the Bills and think they're a potential playoff team, tell me why again it's "crazy" to suggest they might win 12 games?
I'll hang up and listen.
4.6 teams per season make 12 wins
It's not common
There are 32 teams in the league
That's about 14% of teams in the NFL
Not sure that's what's hard to understand
I never said they can't make the playoffs
I said 12 is hard to achieve and not just "oh no big deal"
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55 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
It sure is. I believe even the Kelly led Bills reached 12 wins only 3 or 4 times in his 11 seasons at QB.
Thanks boat!
I think people feel that when somebody says 12 wins is a crazy prediction that they are insulting the bills
The pats **ONLY** won 11 last season.
This is what I'm trying to say.
Making a jump from 6 to 12 wins is really tough and very uncommon.
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11 minutes ago, eball said:
I think my expectation of somewhere between 8 and 12 wins was stated very clearly in an earlier post.
I know what you stated.
I stated clearly as well that 12 is a crazy and unreasonable prediction.
You know how many teams won 12 (or more) last season?
5.
In the entire NFL.
Chiefs (12)
Chargers (12)
Bears (12)
Saints (13)
Rams (13)
That's it.
It's not an easy thing to do.
2017 - 4 teams
2016 - 4 teams
2015 - 5 teams
2014 - 5 teams
2013 - 5 teams
2012 - 4 teams
2011 - 6 teams
2010 - 4 teams
2009 - 4 teams
2008 - 5 teams
That's a decade of seasons.
That's how many teams won 12 or more games in each season.
It's not that common.
People acting like "12 wins, no big deal" need to reevaluate how difficult that # is to achieve.
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5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Anything but grape actually.
the only grape(s) I like are off the vine and JellyI love me some grape soda though
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2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
I love Kool Aid with a nice fat joint
What flavor koolaid?
I like grape.
I haven't had a joint ever though.
I hit the bong a couple of times in college, and a bowl or two.
A blunt here and there in college too, and back in Jamaica 7 years ago.
Been a while though since I've had any ?
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2 minutes ago, eball said:
I'm done here. Some things just aren't worth the effort.
So you realistically think 12 wins is going to happen and is a reasonable prediction??
Okay.
Keep drinking that Kool aid
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Typical response from you.
Somebody dissects your bulls*it and you face palm emoji or deflect.