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11 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
Not saying it's a smokescreen, but many teams throw out bad information to hide interest in their true target.
Teams trade up to grab position players all the time.
Or they are leaking interest to make teams think it's a smokescreen?? ?
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7 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:
Zero chance Beane takes Metcalf.
If you know the NFL and you follow the Bills you know we have 4 WR that have proven they can get separation and catch the ball. Foster and Beasley will be a top tandem this year. Nobody can cover those two guys.
What we don't have is TE, Edge, IDL, LB depth etc. I think we will go big men in 1st and 2nd. My guess is D first if Oliver is there, then Risner in the 2nd, otherwise Jawaan OT then Tillery in the 2nd.
We arent getting suckered into an injury prone, steroid guy like Metcalf to be our WR5
Zero chance huh?
That's a pretty obtuse and ignorant statement.
Foster, while promising, hasn't proven himself.
He has just as much garbage games as good ones.
Beasley is a b+ slot guy, great pickup, but not a OMG BEST WR EVER
Brown has been inconsistent at best in his career.
Zay Jones is wildly inconsistent.
Nobody can cover our guys?
This is one of the most honer-filled posts I've seen here in a long time.
Put down the koolaid bro.
5 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:A lot of the same people that KNEW josh Allen was the wrong pick will be popping up to say they KNOW this one won’t work out either.
I always chuckle when people act like they “know” how a player is gonna turn out. IMO anyone with a level head can see that if the draft has taught us all one thing it’s that having strong opinions on players is usually a silly approach.
This.
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6 minutes ago, billieve420 said:
Smokescreen doubt he is selected by the Bills at 9.
What are they smokescreening?
I don't think anybody is trading up to take anybody other than a QB
Although when it comes to the draft there's always some ridiculously outlandish draft day move-up that makes people scratch their heads
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3 hours ago, H2o said:
Meh, whatever. I'm hoping for Oliver or somehow Devin White falls into our lap. Whoever we take though, as long as it's not a Whitner over Ngata or Maybin over Orakpo scenario, I'm good. Stevie Wonder could see the Bills made mistakes with those two.
Edit: The only person I would be maf about if we picked would be Rashan Gary. He's an underachieving workout warrior whom I think will be a bust in the NFL just like he was as a 5 Star recruit going into college.
Oliver
Dk
Hock
That's my 3
I'm happy with any of them and I'm sure one or all will be available at 9 to choose from
1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said:i don't get how anyone can think he has even half the talent obj has.
a big no for me. why don't we trade next year's first and move up to make sure we get him?
i can see brandon fist pumping all over again....
You don't get it
I don't get why some people fall in love with other prospects I think suck
We aren't NFL scouts, we don't do this for a living, we just do it for fun
Armchair GM's love to point out when they were right on a pick being a boom or a bust
They also don't point out when they were incorrect on 15 other picks/free agents
I'm guilty of it, we all are
Real GM's and scouts don't have the luxury of hiding when they were incorrect
The fact remains that even the best GMs are incorrect most of the time
If they were always right then the top 10-15 players in every draft would go #1-15.
Instead we have guys like Wilson dropping to the third, taken after guys like tj Graham, or teams trading down and passing on mahomes (I was high on him, but I also thought locker was going to be much better)
Many scouts love dk many think he's not worth a top pick, but almost every one I've seen has him in the top 3 if the wr class, just depends how high they value the wr class as a whole
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7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I still think Ben is terrific. He had a career high in yards and touchdown passes last year. And while I think he is a "problem" in the locker room his production on the football field is still outstanding. I watch the tape and I still see a bordering on elite Quarterback. I don't think he gets the respect he deserves.... not sure he ever has to be honest.
I think he was a bit overrated early in his career and now is a bit underrated, though I think the latter is due to people disliking him personally, or the fact that he's had a pretty stacked rb/wr core most of his career
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2 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:
Wilson and any other player is “worth” what the market dictates. You may spit at how much athletes make in general, but you can’t sit there and say Wilson aint worth the money RELATIVE to what his contemporaries are making at the position. So, again, provide something else besides vague blue collar feelings of “worth”.
My man he’s a well known idiot around here don’t sweat it.
I have about 2 pages of the same discussion in this thread about people going on with the "athletes aren't worth that much"
It's a free market/supply and demand.
They are paid that because they generate even more income then they for the owners.
Your point about what he makes compared to his peers is definitely good too!!
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
Agreed. Beane just getting to know him, will tell him that he will give him a call in a few years when he’s a bit more ripe
He needs to play for the Panthers for a couple of years
18 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said:I don’t. CJ Spiller has better break tackle ability than this joker. I laughed when he was drafted and new the Jags would be drafting another RB in the near future because he stinks. Yeldon is absolute garbage. So bad.... we all know what this guy could do in a good offense, not read a hole, fall on first contact, and be gone in a year.
But
But
But
Somebody yelled at me and told me he was the best back in Jax and that fournette sucks
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11 minutes ago, Dopey said:
this.
If your wife is worth $360- $400 mil and is fine a heck, why not help yourself out by being able to field a good enough team to win multiple SB's?
Agreed.
He is making 22 last year and 27 vs the cap though this year.
In the past it definitely helped that his wife was mega rich so he was willing to take below market value
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51 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
His cap hits in 2016 and 2017 were 13 and 14 million.
That really helped them get to the super bowl those years.
Let's just hope this run is coming to an end! LOL
Right but last I checked they just won a SB with him making 22 vs the cap.
God I hate them.
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28 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
The Spotrac tweet I posted was about contract numbers not cap hit.
Brady last contract was 2 years 30 million.
The extra cap hit numbers is when he restructured his old contract to clear up a bunch of cap space.
They have played around with his contract for years.
Put it this way since 2000 (19 seasons) Brady has made 212 million.
That averages just over 11 million per.
If Aaron Rodgers plays out his contract he will have 19 seasons too.
His pay will total 313 million. That's 16.5 per.
Brady has been "cheap" for being the GOAT!
Well a cap hit is what matters.
I don't disagree he's been cheap compared to others, but currently he isn't cheap since 2018 and 2019 vs the cap
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4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:
SpotracVerified account @spotrac 3h3 hours ago
@spotrac
In terms of percentage of the cap, Russell Wilson’s $35M AAV represents 18.6% in 2019.
Aaron Rodgers: 18.9%
Matt Ryan: 16.9%
Matthew Stafford: 16.1%
Kirk Cousins: 15.8%
Andrew Luck: 15.8%
Jimmy Garoppolo: 15.5%
Derek Carr: 14.9%
Nick Foles: 11.6%
Tom Brady: 8.4%
What?
Brady is listed at 22 and 27 mil vs the cap for 2018 and 2019
Rodgers is about 21 and 27 mil for 2018 and 2019
This is by both sport Trac and otc
7 minutes ago, Troll Toll said:I’m disappointed in Wilson for basically tanking the team. What will he do with all that money? I hope if it gets to that point with Josh, where he reaches that level, that he’ll do the Brady home team discount. These QB contracts kill their team’s ability to win Super Bowls. Just seems selfish to me that he is handicapping the guys that are stuck in a deal for the next few years. The guys who actually put their bodies on the line every week. The Brady discount is the most under appreciated aspect of that dynasty. While Brees and Rodgers ensure their team will no longer win, Brady swoops in and takes all the glory.
What discount?
Maybe in the past with a restructuring but currently he's near the top
8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:That's my understanding. Tom Brady set up the TB12 Sports Center with his long time guru/pal Guerrero and the Patriots pay him to treat and provide services to their players.
But the NFL says it's OK so it must be
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-patriots-pay-a-brady-owned-company-run-by-suspect-partner/His 2018 and 2019 cap numbers are 22 and 27 million
Maybe they still paid him this way but currently he's near the top of the heap cap #wise
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19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Yes.
I have no guaranteed pension, or long term employment guarantee other than continued business contracts from the customers.
I get paid to show up and work, and if I B word to much I could possibly get reprimanded or moved to something less desirable or laid off.
Agreed on the top
But I'm replaceable, even though I'm great at my job
Top athletes aren't replaced on LinkedIn
18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:Stop ?comparing ? your ? job ? to ? athletes ? who ? make ? billions ? of ? dollars ?.
Im sorry bro but you’re a lot less valuable than Russell Wilson. And if Wilson isn’t good enough, he will get replaced.
This.
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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:
Oops. Meant Ryan yes.
McCarthy wasn’t the brightest guy. But Rodgers did pretty well with him fit half his career. Whenever Rodgers “took over” the offense (I don’t think it was years ago), it hasn’t gotten better
I'm of the firm belief that they won that SB in spite of McCarthy, not because of him.
He not a good coach.
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25 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
I wish we could get the dirt on those kickbacks
I concede to the point that the NBA can be grueling ...
I still say they are whiners. That's just my opinion my friend.
I will reiterate if it is that grueling find ways to fix it. Allow more men on the team to rotate like Hockey does. I'd prefer these pro's not whine about it.
Are you telling NFL players who want pensions, guaranteed contracts, and less games in the season to stop whining as well?
The NBA players have been trying to find ways to fix it, eliminating back to backs, etc but they haven't been able to come to an agreement with the owners yet.
Larger team rotations probably wouldn't work in basketball though since it's a different style of game with a different flow.
NFL players for example play one day a week with some rest and practice between
NBA players routinely play back to backs and average 3.5 games a week during the season with practice and travel in between.
They have very little time for recovery.
It's a different type of damage and such on the body than the NFL, for sure, in some ways better and some ways worse.
I think my point is that NFL players typically are worn down from repeated traumatic hits, vs NBA players grinding themselves into the ground with repeated running, jumping, driving and falling onto the court without time to recover on the days between.
Very different but still destructive to the body.
I will agree with you that ANY professional athlete can say it's a hard, tough job, but I also say that's part of why you make millions, because it's not an easy job, so I'm with you there
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4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Not to mention the expanded playoffs and size, strength, and commitment to fitness of the modern athlete. Today’s athletes are a WAY different type of athlete than 20 years ago, forget about 50
Good point, didn't even get into that!
His Rochester pickup games and job kidding equipment is much tougher though.
Obv.
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7 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
The point being (1 and 2) as a kid I'd be physically exerting myself every day for the 3 months straight of nice weather in Rochester for 6 to 10 hours a day.
When I was working at Harris from 18 to 30, was lifting 80 pound pieces of equipment 8 hours a day.
I don't want to hear how "tough they have it" Theses softies today can't live up to the players of the past.
Look at the greats from decades ago, How many of them took games off?
Your point is completely wrong.
Your job was not as grueling as the NBA.
Your Rochester basketball as a kid was not as grueling as the NBA.
The NBA seasons of decades ago were shorter.
They played 72 games in the 50s, less prior.
The 82 game season became a thing in the late 60s.
What decades are you referring to for the greats by the way?
I'll start from the 82 game season since it's easier to gauge
Kareem played 82 games 5 times in 20 seasons
He averaged 78 games a season in his career
Bird played 82 only twice, averaging 69 games
Jordan 5 times reached 82 games, 71 game average
LeBron has hit 82 once, and 74 game average
Kobe hit 82 twice, 72 average
It's not that much different from "back in the day"
Keep trying
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5 minutes ago, row_33 said:
can you go and tell a man who plays in the NFL your little crackpot theory?
i'll send you a nice flower arrangement while you lay in your hospital bed for 2 weeks after he B word-slaps you so hard your head does a 720
Right.
Crackpot theory.
Let me know when an NFL player runs and jumps up and down a court for 40 minutes straight 3 times a week
I never said NFL players were soft or it was easy
I said it's a different sport and the NBA take a toll on players bodies as well
4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:When I was younger .... we spend day after day outside playing pickup games of you name it.
We'd ride bikes over 20 miles a day round trip to go to a quarry to the beach to swim and play Volley ball.
When I was younger .... I would walk to school 10 miles up hill both ways AND in blizzard !!!
What a bunch of softies !!!
(I'm just having a bit of fun with ya)
Pickup games are definitely NBA equivalent
And uphill both ways in a blizzard is definitely easy you wuss ??
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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I didn’t read the thread but I just saw the video he posted late night from bed and ... I know he’s a weird guy but that was one of the most awkward things ever.
I'm gonna have to find this
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10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
If it were the last week of the season sure, I guess I get it.
But what I hear often is these prima donas take themselves out of games. to "rest" boo freaking hoo. if you are that "tired" retire your oldass.
Grueling schedule? Reduce the # of games then.
these wussies wouldn't last 1 week in the NHL or NFL
Let me know when you play an 82 game NBA season in 165 days
NFL players wouldn't last a week in the NBA with the constant cardio and jumping for 40 minutes a night 3-4 days a week either
You realize that NFL players don't play both sides of the ball right?
They get breaks between possessions and many don't even play every down
They are different sports
They rest because their coach tells them to
They wind up with muscle fatigue that leads to injuries
Rest prevents that
If you think the NBA is easy and doesn't take a toll on player bodies then you are completely lost
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6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I agree except there's no sneaking involved. They are marching right up there openly.
And you're right, it's not a difficult call for a legit top tier guy. It's the "is he or isn't he?" crowd that will give GMs ulcers.
Gonna be interesting to see how the Cousins thing works for the Vikings.Cousins is good
Very good imo
I think their coaching and schemes was the issue
Shurmur drove that offense and they didn't replace him properly
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
Indeed - Derek Carr, Dak Prescott and Matt Stafford are the difficult contract decisions. Russell Wilson is a no brainer.
Agreed.
I do think QBs are sneaking up into a bigger cap% (I could be wrong) and it's a tough balance to keep an elite QB vs paying the rest of the roster
It's even tougher with guys like who you listed who are borderline top tier but just not quite there, but are still very hard to replace
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18 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
Basketball and baseball players get paid too damn much IMO.
what really makes me laugh with Basketball players... they take "time off" as it suits them.
If I pay to go to a game I better see a top paid player out there giving 100% and no excuses. If he's not playing he better have a serious enough injury.
IF he does .... He's young and would then be worthy of bringing the team to greatness and keeping them there.
You realize that many times coaches rest their best players to prevent injury
They don't do it as it suits them
They also play a ridiculously grueling schedule
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47 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said:
I respectfully disagree. Again, I reiterate - no athlete is worth that kind of money. He's a decent QB, but, no.
Oh this tired trope.
The owners wouldn't be paying that much if they didn't feel athletes were worth it.
Elite athletes generate revenue.
They generate more revenue than they are paid.
There's a great article on LeBron James from the last time he went back to Cleveland
It charted Cleveland and Miami's team revenue with and without LeBron at both destination s
They showed the correlation the immediate impact of losing and gaining him on each team was over $75million net profit/loss
I'm sure the Lakers and cavs would see similar numbers from last year.
I'm sure you have some moral rant that nobody is worth that much, but guess what??
Tickets, marketing, advertising, etc all generate that much money for a team/ owner.
If you are so morally against athletes earning that much $$ the only way to stop it is stop supporting professional sports by boycotting ESPN/etc coverage, all forums, games, TV game broadcasts, merch and such.
If you are still involved and following a team then you contribute to the ever rising $$ they make.
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9 hours ago, wppete said:
He looked thick, he is going to be a beast next year. He will end up playing at 260lbs at MLB. Amazing.
I don't know if he'll get that heavy but he will be close
The only mlbs I can think of that were his size that I remember, at least in modern game, urlacher, seau, Thomas, Lewis
I think urlacher played in the high 250s
Lewis , seau, and things around 250, give or take
It takes a special athlete to hang MLB at that weight, and Edmunds is the most athletic gifted of them all
Let's hope he develops his skills to go along with it!!
Bills 2019 NFL Draft: Buffalo Bills are taking D.K. Metcalf, says SI’s Gary Gramling
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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The other way to look at it is they went with the boom-bust home run swings last year, and this year they are going more conservative with their initial picks to help stabilize things
Can Ed Oliver play wr?