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After looking at Dennison's offense, I made this conclusion in August as well. I had hoped Tyrod and Dennison would "come together" in the season and scheme wise.
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6 minutes ago, theRalph said:
I predicted this in my post yesterday. Thanks.
Tyrod couldn't function in this offense in preseason. Then he struggled early in the season. Then, the offense was tweaked and Tyrod got outside a lot, mostly throwing and sometimes running. Best examples are his 3rd down pickups and the throw to O'Leary. But defenses caught on. Linebackers started staying back and Tyrod couldn't run...vs Jets and Saints he was surrounded. The time it takes for him to set up and throw allows teams to easily read the Bills offense and crowd the line against the run. When he did throw quick, it was batted down.
In three Sundays they will be calling Peterman the next Brady. And it will be because LeSean McCoy can run. You read it here.
I predicted this in my thread in August. Thanks for the acknowledgement.
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I saw one play where KB was wide open and Tyrod looked his way but didn't throw. He threw his arms up in frustration.
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The way he ended that interview, he was going "we'll see". Not a ringing endorsement of Peterman.
Just now, YoloinOhio said:Micah Hyde referred to him as “Nate Favre.” Says he’s a confident gunslinger.
He wasn't as good in pre-season. I hope his college form shows up.
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45 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:
Many more, but majority are perplexed, puzzled or laughing at the Bills again.
You know the Ringer's run by Boston guys. Coverage's always tilted towards their teams.
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Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said:
Would not be shocked if it is Baltimore. Familiarity.
They also have Greg Roman. And Marty Morningwade's on the way out I have to believe.
Tyrod with Roman and that defense? yeah that'll work.
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15 minutes ago, unclepete said:
I would say Flutie was on a better team. But Tyrod is better.
Flutie can make all the throws and with accuracy! Does Tyrod do that?
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1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:
No Tyrod stayed the starter cause "he was better than anyone the Bills have had" since Kelly.
I beg to differ. Prime Flutie is better than Tyrod. He was everything Tyrod is, but only better.
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38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
He sure has a lot of fans nationally. Tyrod's fault is he isn't Jim Kelly. And that's hard. At the same time, he is an unconventional QB, and our offense is too conventional. And that's why it doesn't work as well as it could with him at helm.
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7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
Remember the huge to do about Deshaun Watson's lack of arm strength at this years combine? Had the weakest arm with the poorest velocity of any quarterback there. If any of these guys truly had a "noodle arm" they wouldnt be in the NFL. Peterman can make up for the lack of velocity by being ahead of the curve when it comes to reading defenses and getting the ball out quickly.
Where I think the real issue is with Nate is his inaccuracy. Has a tendency to miss wide and high.
Yes I noticed those misses too. I think that's his footwork. He wasn't set properly. If he's a tad off, that throw goes way wide. He needs to get more consistent footwork.
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Just now, K-9 said:
Everything in the sense of the straw that broke the camel's back maybe, but I don't see McD as the type of coach to pull a player based on one bad game. TT has had many in his tenure and it's his whole body of work in that regard that informs the decision more than anything.
I agree. He isn't an emotional type of guy like Rex. He is a deliberate person and plays it relatively safe. And I'm reading this from the way his defenses are - they are sound, solid, and safe. He doesn't take a lot of risks with his defenses. He's going to take the percentages, whatever gives him the best safest chances. So IMO this wasn't a rash decision, and I have to think he has been thinking about this for sometime.
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8 minutes ago, ctk232 said:
Arm strength can be second to accuracy (i.e. Late career Peyton and Rivers - both successful noodles). But if you aren't consistently accurate with your throws, which includes timing, you're in trouble.
Here's to hoping his strength develops, but I'd rather see the accuracy piece first. He's going to need that 50 yard accuracy AND strength if we ever get a break with one-on-one coverage.
Yes I agree. going from my vague memory his pre-season quick throws are accurate when his feet are set correctly. There are tmes when he fires the ball and it goes completely off the target - and that to me is his footwork. His accuracy suffered under pressure. I think we're going to see heavy blitz from Chargers on passing downs.
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10 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:
If he is a mediocre backup then wouldn't he be even more likely to lose than Tyrod? I love this news. Now we can see what we have in Peterman, if anything, prior to the draft. Oh, and if by chance he DOES succeed? Bonus!
I think this is why the timing is brilliant. Put him in games when it still mattered and see IF the kid can handle the spot light and the pressure. you find out quickliy what the mental make up of the QB. Then they know what they have to do next year.
8 minutes ago, matter2003 said:I don't know about the knock on Peterman and his arm strength...there were 2 throws to Benjamin in the Saints game where he threw a bullet one about 30 yards and the other 20 yards on the money that had some real zip on it...in fact the 30 yard throw could be heard on TV when it hit Benjamin...QBs with noodle arms can't throw like that and you certainly don't hear the ball thud into the WR
I agree - I have said myself that his armstrength is questionable. He can't throw the 50 yard bombs with velocity that many QBs routinely do, but his armstrength is adequate for west coast O. And over time, his armstrength can grow. Look at Alex Smith.
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28 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said:
Maybe TPegs had a little influence on McProcesses decision. IDK, but you never know what goes on behind closed doors.
Here I have to disagree. They have a certain management style - they hire the people and don't micro-manage. they do performance checks though - thus the internal interviews they conducted. Pegulas are corporate management people, and if they participate in this decision making then it's considered micro-managing, also under-mining the authority of a manager they hired, and thirdly, it would indicate to them this manager they hired does not have the mental capacity to make decisions and thus is a bad hire and would replace him sooner than later.
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BOYS I CALLED THIS IN PRE-SEASON!!!! I SAID PETERMAN IS BETTER SUITED FOR THIS OFFENSE IN THIS THREAD:
Quoting CanadianFan:
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There are similarities between Peterman and Siemian:- quick processing of defenses. Both reads defenses fast
- fast decision making. You don't see them pet the ball back there.
- quick releases and quick passing.
- both have relatively weak arms for long throws.
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Now this offense relies on "timing & anticipation" two things that Tyrod doesn't do well. Dennison has said that Tyrod needs to anticipate throws instead of throwing only when he sees it.If Dennison does NOT tailor his offense to Tyrod, then I see Tyrod failing. And Peterman succeeding.-
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OH MY FORKIN GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DID NOT SEE THIS COMING!!!!!!!!!
I seriously thought McDermott would stick with Tyrod till playoff chances evaporated. GUTSY CALL!
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38 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:
Yup, I don't get it. A lot of people picked this team to be 5-11 to 6-10 because this wasn't a one year plan and we traded away talent for draft currency to build for the future. But, now the team started off good and have hit a skid means McDermott sucks, Beane is stupid, and we might as well just chug bleach.
It's not the record. It's how badly we got out-coached and out-played with 10 days to prepare. That's what's disturbed people. I'm ok with competitive losses. we know all the excuses. This was bad after 1st quarter.
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A Carolina fan told me at first he was worried about their D. their new DC takes more risks and that's been the difference. I assume that means they blitz more.
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47 minutes ago, MDH said:
No doubt they have an easier schedule, I just don't see how, according to your own process, you didn't give them .5 games in many of those contests. I still think they end up in the playoffs I just question how you applied your methodology. GB (with Hundley at QB) just beat CHI on the road. The same CHI team that went into BAL and got a W. That's not a fairly even match? Same goes for the CIN game.
I think you're overestimating how good this Ravens team is.
Raiders are done. 5 losses and games vs. NE, KC, DAL and PHI remaining on the schedule. For some reason, people think the Raiders of last year are suddenly going to show up.
4 minutes ago, Marty McFly said:Bills IF they can beat the chargers. That wc spot is in the line this weekend. They better play like the season is on the line.
Basically this weekend is key to watch Ravens. If we beat Chargers and Ravens lose to Packers we improve our chances at this.
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8 minutes ago, CountryCletus said:
And here we go again.... it’s all about the compensation... I sincerely hope you don’t look at him for the 6th and think that’s the depth of the deal...
It's a cynical remark to point out at a BAD TRADE that shouldn't have been made. We still got cap space this year. We could've done this trade in off-season. You never weaken a roster while in a hunt. Stupid move by a rookie GM. Correct move, BAD TIMING.
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36 minutes ago, MDH said:
No doubt they have an easier schedule, I just don't see how, according to your own process, you didn't give them .5 games in many of those contests. I still think they end up in the playoffs I just question how you applied your methodology. GB (with Hundley at QB) just beat CHI on the road. The same CHI team that went into BAL and got a W. That's not a fairly even match? Same goes for the CIN game.
I think you're overestimating how good this Ravens team is.
Raiders are done. 5 losses and games vs. NE, KC, DAL and PHI remaining on the schedule. For some reason, people think the Raiders of last year are suddenly going to show up.
So do your own math. That's what the table is for. Who ends up with the 6th seed?
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41 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:
Multiple times I've seen people just handing Baltimore wins because the rest of their schedule looks easy. When did Baltimore get good? Fun fact, they haven't. GB may be a toss up, but I expect the Packers to win that one, even without Rogers. Houston could truly go either way. No way Baltimore beats Detroit or Pittsburgh. And, don't ever underestimate the challenge of a division game, especially in the AFC North. I see a Cincy win in week 17. Cleveland looks like a win for them, but again a division game with an improving Kizer and some players coming back for them. Also, an improving Colts team just gave Pittsburgh all they could handle and beat the Texans the week before, yet a mediocre Ravens team is just going to steamroll them?
I say Ravens finish 8-8 at best, more likely 7-9
8 minutes ago, MDH said:How do you chalk up a victory for Baltimore playing on the road in GB? That's a toss up if ever I saw one. The Ravens have won 1 game in their past 4. That's not a team that can get easy victories on the road, no matter who they are playing. Hell, it's not a team that can get easy victories at home either, except vs. CLE.
I know. It just says they have the easier schedule. GB is tough but Ravens have the D to stop them easy. Question is on the offensive side, if they can get enough points.
even at 7-9 they tie with us and got the tie breakers in conference wins, etc.
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We can't quit on this season. We have the 2nd best chance to get to playoffs. Ravens might suck rest of the way you never know. Look at their schedules.
17 minutes ago, John from Hemet said:I dont agree with you at all......if we make the playoffs and get bounced that is def a step in the right direction
Yes agree. It just starts to create an entirely different mindset on the team and coaching staff. Winning starts here:
Nathan Peterman to Start this Week.
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Peterman is going to face seriously rough test this sunday. Chargers have shown they can stop the best run-game in the league on their HOME TURF and made their horrible QB Bortles beat them with his arm. It almost worked, except Chargers beat themselves.
I see a horrible time for Peterman - Chargers are going to shut down Shady. Peterman's going to have to throw to win for us. And Chargers are going to unleash their hunters after Peterman. If the kid's got game, it's going to show sunday. This is a TOUGH TEST for Nathan. This is BAPTISM BY FIRE.
Let's see if he survives.
If he doesn't, Tyrod's back in there. In that game or next week. Tyrod may not be done this year by ANY MEANS.