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Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You win. Your ignorance is invincible. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
it should be sense a pattern -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Is it that mods can impugn posters or the obverse. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I know how you dont like to fact check so I did for you. As usual you are almost right. It is true that there was a very brief disclaimer at the beginning but it was not until 40 minutes into the "adaptation" of HG Welles "War of the Worlds" that Welles announced it was a hoax. This was preceded by at least two "reports on site" of contemporary horror. It was all good fun. If I am not mistaken much of the action occurred in New Jersey! -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Well said -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
........toward which you provide none......... -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
One has to be in focus at some point to lose it. The Dead Sea Scrolls date is not only wrong they are completely misrepresented and , in fact, the Scrolls reinforce and prove the existence of the New Testament in the 1st century. If one in a piece of purported fiction alters/ misrepresents/lies about historical documents CRUCIAL to the story line one is a fraud. The anti-Catholicism comes from repressed envy. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
The author says he agrees with the theories as presented. Sorry, his words. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
No I could never reach your crap-throwing prowess. As crap throwers go you are the best. You see it is all a factor of crap production. You need all lot of raw material to produce it in the right proportion. the aromatic quality must be just right. And, of course, never have had a thought. So please respond in character. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Brown is not unlike Madonna who once had a lustful Jesus come down off the Cross into her embrace. Madonna mocks the Mother of Christ ; Brown attacks Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. Can you imagine mocking lesbianism or homosexuality in the popular press? Can you think of a religion or race you could do something like that to? Again I am only saying what Brown, the author, has said that it is fact and he believes it. Perhaps your argument should be with Brown? -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You mean to say that during the three public years of His life He just forgot to mention one minor factoid of His life, that is, and oh by the way, I have a Son or is it son? But why worry that fact would make no difference! -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Orson Welles broadcast of martian invasion caused a scare. The fear was real. The reason for the fear was false but the fear was real. Mr Welles presented his hoax as real( his brief disclaimer at beginning was only much later repeated and as previously mentioned authenticated events with reporters)and then admitted the obvious. Why one would think Welles and Browns hi-jinks are analogous is beyond comprehension. They are opposites. Both presented hoaxes. Welles admitted his hoax as hoax and the nation agreed; Brown presents a hoax as true and the nation agreed. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
So even though the author of this work believes in its truth you, who has not read the work has done a study of the Catholics you know, and conclude that the author is wrong about his own conclusion? The book is not factual. It is fiction. It is presented as FACT as stated on opening page. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
"On the tv special (on the book) Brown confesses that he 'became a believer' in the theories that he weaves throughout The Davinci Code after allegedly trying to disprove them. This lends further credence to unsuspecting readers who aren't equipped to question the facts the world presents to them....Imagine if an author put {such claims that a particular race or gender was inferior} into a character cast as a trained anthropologist { as Langdon is donned historian} and prefaced the entire work with the statement that "All descriptions of cultures. biology' sociology and genetics in this novel are accurate". It is ONLY because Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular is considered ' fair game' that such an outrage" is made into a movie -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
The book can not make Germany a pluralistic democracy and England replete with Fascists. Japan remains an aggresive nation in control in Asia. The Chinese Communist movement may or may not occur. There are certain truths that must be folllowed.A person of the enormously unfortunate talent like Mao has to be accounted for. It is a very interesting thought experiment to consider what how the world would have proceeded if England had signed a separate peace with Germany. Whither Russia without a Western Front? Would we have found comfort in 3000 miles of ocean? Would we have beaten Germany in atomic sphere? Would we have even had a Manhattan project? It renders the Kennan memo meaningless? Plausible answers to those questions requires more research than and ink to consider the permutations of the individual and collective nations and interest. And that is why fiction requires research. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
If you , say, write a Civil war semi-fiction the issue of slavery the economic imperatives of continuing plantation culture are not of your whim to change. Fiction has to be believable . What is that they say about liars, that a bad memory gets them every time because every time is a different lie. And yes I meant fiction. Yes you create "the world" as fiction writer but if your readers are in individual paralel universes sales will not be boffo. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Then why respond? You proved merely that you said this or that. I am now certain that you are certain of your certitude. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Tsk. Tsk. Funny you should conjure reading comprehension for if you had read the post above you would have found out one of the many sources. Honest fiction writers spend years in research. They want their yarn to be plausible so they do research. Otherwise they do science fiction where they control the rules. Brown is sloppy at least and disingenuous at worst. Brown and I exist in the same world one in which some things are facts and changing them to fit your hope is wrong. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
and thanks for reviewing my demi sonnet -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Thank you for the link. i am computer challenged so i am incapable of returning the favor except to direct you and others to a critique of the novel; tektonics.org.......... the title is "Not Indavincible" or google davinci Code for more than you would ever want to know Nota bene. I said he presents the works noted in his bibliography as real books. He, subsequently in interviews, said he, Brown, believes in the conclusions of his novel. The novel itself plays a double game claiming to be factual and fictional at the same time. I did not say the work was factual- it is riddled with errors ranging from serious to juvenile- but he makes a claim of FACT on first page in areas he has been proven, empirically proven, to be wrong. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Witty retort. color me impressed. Sarcasm -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I am sorry i offended your fixation on "getting things right". Who knew? someone accepting as truth fiction and not forgiving a misplaced vowel. The fact is it is not a fictional bibliography. Brown is serious. He truly believes the work and scholarship(sic) of these academic charlatans support his thesis. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
If in my panties you could ever get tho that is a most unlikely bet I would eyes lower to your manhood and realize that Lorena already reduced your size -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I am certain that you did not read the book. Go to chapter 60 where Danny boy gives his "bibliography" of "the royal bloodlines...detailed... by historians". He goes on to reference 4 works in particular: 1)"The Templar Revelation" this work of fiction is penned by Pinkett and Prince who are not historians but rather "lecturers in the paranormal and occult". these two also authored "the Stargate Conspiracy: The Truth About Extraterrestial Life" and, it gets better" the Mammoth Book of UFO's". 2)"The Women With the Alabaster Jar" and "The Goddess in the Gospels"by Starbird . Starbird claims to have a Masters in a field unshared to the public. 3)"Holy Blood, Holy Grail" by Baigent ( Teabing anagram) and Leigh. Baigent, in what resembles a real life, sports a bachelors degree in Psychology. Leigh describes himself as "a writer and university lecturer with a thorough knowledge of history, philosophy, psychology and esoterica" shorthand for no scholarship. So there you have it . Now go buy the Inquirer while at the grocery store. -
Dan Brown, Da Vinci Code, Catholicism
beausox replied to PTS's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Why is it that the same people who swallow whole conspiracy theories as Gospel dismiss out of hand the Shroud of Turin?which is second only to the Holy Grail as the most persistent Christian rumors. I would add the True Cross to this but hawkers have exhausted whole European forests on that one. At the very least there does exist a cloth that may- experts disagree- be the burial cloth of Jesus. The book may be fiction because it is in the fiction section. The author in Madonna-like coyness has said he " has come to believe in its theories". The book starts with Fact statement and provides a bibliography. Can you provide me with a work of fiction that had a bibliography? In fact why would a work of fiction, which is in some people's estimation completely creative. provide a bibliography? I had an acquaintance , who attended Canisius High, and while there was assigned some obscure poet to research and do a paper. He said he had no success finding any scholarly reference to his subject. So he did what came natural to his indolent but agile mind and made the whole thing up. Bibliography, footnotes and anecdotes based soley upon the poetry of his subject. He claims he pulled it off. His name? why Dan Brown of course.