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  1. 48 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

    If the Vikings trade up to 4 or 5 and take a QB, perhaps NYG is willing to move out of 6?

     

    28, 60, 4th, 2025 1st & 3rd ? 

     

    select Malik Nabers 


     

    I’m at the point my preferred WR’s are

     

    Nabers, MHJ, Odunze, BTJ 


    I want a top WR prospect but the whole thing about this class is how deep WR is so trading up is likely poor value, even with how good the top 3 are projected to be.

     

    Much likelier imho that we trade up once again ahead of the Cowboys if a WR we really like is there at 23. (We’ll see who has that pick by Draft weekend, but seeming unlikely it will remain the Vikings.)

     

    Maybe we jump the Jaguars up to 16 with Seattle but even that price is likely too steep for a GM who seems hell bent on fielding a younger cost-controlled team. 

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  2. 1 hour ago, warrior9 said:

    My brother in christ, I'm referring to him at the next level. I live in Texas, I have been to games to watch him play. 

    Guys like that don't succeed in the NFL. 


    You're going to tell me he has an advanced route tree? That makes me think you have never watched him play football. 

    You think he can beat physical CBs off the line? That makes me think you never watched him play football. 

    You think he is going to go over the middle on a 15 yard in and catch a ball while getting hit? That makes me think you never watched him play football. 


    I don’t live in Texas, but I have eyes, and he definitely has a diverse route tree, is a skilled route runner, and plays tougher and bigger than his size. 
     

    Guys like him do succeed in the NFL and are named, for example, Davonte Smith, DeSean Jackson, Zay Flowers, John Brown, Tyreek Hill, Will Fuller, Antonio Brown, Cole Beasley, TY Hilton, Emmanuel Sanders, Darnell Mooney, etc.
     

    If we take Worthy and try to turn into a contested catch slot guy, then that would be on the OBD suits.

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  3. 17 minutes ago, Logic said:


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    I don't think it's fair to say that Xaxier Worthy is John Ross 2.0.

    The first set of stats is Ross, the second is Worthy.

    For one thing, John Ross broke out as a fourth year Junior, doing not much of note until then. Worthy broke out as a freshman, posting 981 yards and 12 TDs.

    As for the size and the notion that players like him can't hold up in the NFL:

    Xavier Worthy is 5'11" 165 lbs.
    Devonta Smith is 6'0" 170 lbs and has done quite well for himself in the NFL.
    Darnell Mooney is 5'11" 174 lbs and has posted a 1,000 yard receiving season in the NFL and just signed a decent FA deal to be a WR2 for Atlanta.

    It's not unreasonable to think that Worthy can add 5 lbs of muscle in an NFL strength and conditioning program. 

    If you don't like Worthy as a prospect, that's fine, but I think that calling him "John Ross 2.0" or blaming his size is faulty reasoning.

     


    This plus there is speculation he was only down to 165 to try to get the 40 record.

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  4. 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

    I'm very happy that we added Edwards.  2 Super Bowl rings.  Insights into KC's defensive schemes.   Playmaker.  4 Defensive TD's.   3 INT's in the playoffs.  27 years old.  Low $.  If he performs at a high level we can lock him in for 3 more years.  Seems to be a quality character who strives for more than being called "underrated"

     

    Incoming All-Pro 😎


    Also cool that he said he watches a lot of Hyde tape and models his game after that

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  5. From 2020 Draft Profile

     

    Overview

    Toohill's a tricky projection based upon his issues stopping the run, but he has great flashes as a pass rusher. His body type may not be fully finished and additional play strength would be crucial considering his inability to anchor and shed against run blocks. His rush is much less effective against stronger tackles, but he's a decent athlete and hints at rush skill that has room for development. He's currently caught between a 3-4 OLB and 4-3 DE. If he can become bigger, stronger and more polished as a rusher, he might make sense as a backup edge with sub-package talent as a wide-9 technique.

     

    Strengths

    Possesses NFL frame ready to take on additional muscle mass. Posted 11.5 tackles for loss and eight sacks in first year as full-time starter. Length to overtake stutter-stepping runners from backside. Fluid and athletic when playing downhill. Upfield rush bolstered by snap quickness. Active hands work to displace punch and attack resets. Bend and agility to bend the top of the rush. Pass rush has a second gear to close. Lays the lumber into quarterbacks every shot he gets. Has two career blocked extra points.


    Weaknesses

    Doesn't use hands to take charge at point of attack. Unable to anchor down and hold the edge. Struggles to come unglued from blocks. Sputters to recover once he's behind during engagements. Leggy and lethargic with lateral slides to close down gaps. Doesn't hit speed to conversion effectively as rusher. Rush counters are telegraphed. Redirect blocks tap his brakes when attacking the edge. Not athletic enough for spot drops in coverage.

  6. 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

    I hear ya…I’m just afraid we will all regret it when the Chiefs take him at 32, and we all have to relive “Tyreek Hill” and Patrick Mahomes again…


    Worthy is at least my WR4. People sleeping on him big time. And not because his 40 time.

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  7. 3 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

    Worthy will be a dangerous weapon, but at 165lbs he is too small for a 1st round pick, in my opinion.


    Not sure if true, but some including I think cover1 have speculated he was 165 lbs just so he could try to break the record 40 yard dash time and will likely play closer to 175 lbs.

  8. 2017 Draft Profile:

     

    Overview

    Jack-of-all trades but master of none, Samuel showed an ability to gain yardage and create scoring opportunities in a variety of ways on a talented Buckeyes offense. However, NFL teams will want to slot him into a more defined role, which is most likely at receiver. He is still learning the position and has separation quickness to create open throwing lanes, but while he's sharpening his route work, he could find early reps as a kick returner.


    Strengths

    - Has crisp feet for sudden change of direction

    - Long-strider with deep speed to challenge press coverage over the top

    Shows defender an exaggerated jab fake at top of his routes to generate lean from cornerback and create separation out of his break

    - On comeback routes, can stutter feet into his break for a sudden stop-and-open timing throws

    - Has explosiveness both vertically and out of his breaks to uncover on all three levels

    - Can ramp it back up to top gear quickly after tapping his brakes in space

    At his best when matched up in open space

    - Gets faster and more dangerous as the play unfolds

    - Has two years of kick-return experience

    - Moveable matchup piece


    Weaknesses

    - Plays with some hip tightness that make his play more linear than fluid

    - Needs to work on release against press

    - Could get hung up off the line and into his routes by athletic, press-cover slot men

    - Has unnatural hands that fight the throw

    - Will default to body catches

    - Didn't have as many "pro-style" touches as teams would like

    - Averaged just 5.5 yards at the catch point, and several carries came on jet sweeps and stretch plays from shotgun

    - Average ball-tracking and adjustments to poor throws

    - Wasn't asked to handle blocking responsibilities very often

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  9. 2018 Draft Profile:

     

    Overview

    Three-year starter with an excellent motor to go along with above average toughness. Joseph's athletic ability and quickness serve him well as a run defender, but he is unlikely to be much of a factor as a pass rusher on the next level. Joseph will need to add mass, but he's got a shot to fit into a rotation as either a three-technique or shade nose in a 4-3 defense.

     

    Strengths

    Plays with very good quickness off the snap. Impressive 4.97 forty at his pro day with a 10-yard split to match. Quick hands, strong hands. Flashes two-gap sensibilities with ability to punch, spy, and disengage. Plus agility to scrape along the line to mirror the runner. Explosive lateral burst to snare running backs from the backside. Never stagnant with relentless motor. Good feel for blocking schemes and attacks his attacker. Makes impact tackles near the line of scrimmage.

     

    Weaknesses

    Lacks pass rush production relative to his athletic ability. Was often subbed out on obvious passing downs. Has played nose at Rutgers and could face move to three-technique in pros. Could use more mass and anchor at the point of attack. Can be stalemated when facing quality strength across from him. Was unable to impose his will against Michigan State's Brian Allen. Needs twists and games to help him get off the mark as a rusher.

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