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1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:
This entire message board is devoted to discussion but if you haven’t figured out by now, people’s faith walk is deeply personal. Just because you’re quick to mock others choices doesn’t mean we all have to.
In my line of work I designed many churches of all denominations, along with a synagogue and Islamic school. That was my CHOICE. But should I have been forced to design them? No, I shouldn’t have. Everyone needs to give each other a little space.
Mock?? Where have I mocked anyone's personal choices? As a matter of fact I have stated I only have respect for those who believe. All I've done is point out what appears to be a hypocrisy in your thoughts. You ask to be given a little space but want a gay couple to come up with "their" own word to describe the exact same thing my wife and I have been a part of for nearly 40 years. Kind of goes against we are all equal in the eyes of God. But again.....that's just me.
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4 minutes ago, B-Man said:
TWO BUTTIGIEGS IN ONE! Sec. Pete Buttigieg: We need to act to reverse the worst effects of climate change.
And this is how we’ll do it: Pete Buttigieg often flies on taxpayer-funded private jets, flight data show.
Biden Cabinet member has taken at least 18 flights on taxpayer-funded private jets, despite calls to curb carbon emissions.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pete-buttigieg-flies-taxpayer-funded-private-jets-flight-data-show
I’ll believe global warming is a crisis, when the people who tell me it’s a crisis start to act like it’s a crisis themselves
I saw this this morning and wondered how unusual is it for a Cabinet member to fly private or more to the point how often do they fly commercial?
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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
And why is this guy so dangerous as a salesman?
This is like asking why Timothy McVeigh was so dangerous as a fertilizer purchasing agent.
And gee....where is he now?
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Just now, B-Man said:
No reply needed.
I'm sorry but I would benefit from a response. Why can a hospital refuse a patient's demands? I know this is your background so I'm curious.
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28 minutes ago, LDD said:
It seems apparent to me that the only sin in the bible is that of being gay. Just imagine if there were actually other sins in the bible and religious businesses refused offering services or support to other "apparent" sinners...that would be a mess🙄
What if the bible had something called, eh, I don't know, THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS ( lust, gluttony, greed, laziness, wrath, envy, pride) and made a big point out of how those sins really helped evil flourish in the world. Nobody would be able to do a darn thing anywhere for the exchange of goods or services. Good thing NO OTHER sins exist anywhere in the bible but that of the errant seed dropper or whatever.
I understand what you're saying and agreed with it at first. The difference is if the bakeshop bakes a cake for a convicted murderer to celebrate his release of prison the are not participating in the sin of murder. However baking a cake for the wedding is participating in the sin of homosexuality. It's a big difference.
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51 minutes ago, Doc said:
The irony. "The Onion" hasn't been clever or interesting for a decade now. Hell I didn't even think it existed anymore.
No the true irony is that Billy posted a LAMP that makes fun of Musk's LAMP. The lack of self awareness is astounding.
Hey lookie!! No questions!!
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8 minutes ago, B-Man said:
More info . . . . .
Freedom OF Religion
Court: Catholic hospitals can't be forced to perform "gender transition" surgeries
On Friday, the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a ruling by a federal judge in North Dakota who said that the federal government can not force a group of Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform “gender transition” surgeries. While the government will likely take this to the Supreme Court at some point, this case may offer a tentative first step toward curbing the transgender madness currently engulfing the nation’s healthcare system. The basis for the ruling is a bit odd, at least as I see it, but you take your victories where you can get them. This ruling also renews a standing debate over certain provisions in Obamacare that have been wildly twisted in recent years to redefine “sex” and “gender” to suit progressive activists. (Reuters)
The Biden administration cannot force a group of Catholic healthcare providers and professionals to perform gender transition surgeries under an Obama-era regulation barring sex discrimination in healthcare, a U.S. appeals court ruled on Friday.
A unanimous three-judge panel of the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a North Dakota federal judge who said the U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) rule infringes on the religious freedoms of the plaintiffs, including a group of nuns who run health clinics for the poor and an association of Catholic healthcare professionals.
The New Orleans-based 5th Circuit came to the same conclusion in August in a case brought by Christian medical groups.
The courts have thus far ruled in this case based on an assumed violation of the religious freedom of the plaintiffs. That struck me as rather odd, as I suggested above. I’ve never claimed to be a biblical scholar, but I don’t recall reading anything in the Good Book about gender transition. And fighting battles like this one on a religious basis will only polarize the topic further in my opinion.
What this debate should really focus on is basic science, and thankfully there was some of that included in the ruling as well. An attorney for the plaintiffs issued a statement saying that the ruling will “protect patients and ensure doctors can follow their oath to do no harm.”
That’s an important aspect of the debate. This isn’t simply a matter of the unscientific belief that a person who was clearly born as one gender can somehow “transition” and become the opposite gender. Genital mutilation surgeries, particularly for the male-to-female variety, literally create an open wound on the patient’s body that will need to be tended to for the rest of their lives. That’s one reason a director from Boston Children’s Hospital said in a now-deleted video that these “treatments” can create lucrative opportunities to ensure return business for decades to come. Creating such a wound flies directly in the face of the “first do no harm” credo.
This is similar but also very different but maybe we can connect the dots. If I had a client who said they wanted to invest all their money in FTX and I said "no! That's financial suicide!!" it's their money and I'd have to make the trade. In the case above it's the person's body but the hospital refuses to perform a surgery the patient demands. Religious belief is very powerful.
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Just now, SoCal Deek said:
Because it’s you being you. Have you honestly not noticed a pattern here Chef?
That people refuse to engage in meaningful discussion by answering questions? Yup. Sorry I ruffle feathers but it's what I do in my quest to better understand.
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2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
You’re old enough by now to know that yep….it’s just you. 😉
Then it appears no one has done a good job explaining the difference between these two incidents. Cake? Restaurant reservations? Both are denying service based on the ideology of the business. One appears to be ok the other does not...even in my brain. So why is this?
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43 minutes ago, sherpa said:
Not that I care, but refusing to provide a catering service at somebody else's location is entirely different than refusing to serve them in your restaraunt and making that decision very close to the time of the reservation, claiming you were concerned about the safety of your wait staff.
Give me a break.
Why is how/where the product/service is delivered factor into this?
At the end of the day, to me, refusing to serve anyone because you disagree with their lifestyle/politics is incredibly childish. But that's just me.
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49 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
Substitute religion for some other sort of objection. For example…what if a progressive baker was being asked to bake a cake for an ‘Alt-Right’ group’s annual awards dinner? Unless there’s no other bakers in the area, I’d recommend the people just go find another bake shop. In this day and age it shouldn’t be that hard to find one. I doubt the bake shop is posting a derogatory sign in the window.
And if there are no other bakers in the area?
And couldn't the same be said for the restaurant that refused to served the religious group? I'm truly, and honestly, not seeing a difference in the two refusals to provide service.
38 minutes ago, B-Man said:Enough nitpicking Jim.
In a free America, he does NOT have to give up his rights and belief over others rights unless there is an overriding consequence.
In these bakeshop incidents, there is not.
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Nitpicking? So seriously, why can the bakeshop say no to the gay group but the restaurant cannot say no to a religious group? Do the rights of the believers Trump those of the non- believers.
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2 minutes ago, B-Man said:
I am not sure where you are getting this interpretation.
My first point above was that restaurant was breaking the law.
The problem is in your phrase "refusing business" The baker did NOT refuse business to anyone coming into his shop.
He asked the gay couple if they could go elsewhere because he did not believe in same sex marriage. They refused.
In a 7-2 opinion authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, the Court held that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission's actions violated a shop owner's right to the free exercise of his religious beliefs.
Supreme Court ruling aside how is not baking a cake for them NOT refusing business? Was it because they never set foot in his shop? -
2 minutes ago, BillStime said:
lol, let me find my Biden flag.
You will never understand how bad this post is. You and others like you are the problem not the solution.
Carry on problem boy.
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1 hour ago, BillStime said:
Don't worry - he will get the job done.
And if he doesn’t? And if he does but it’s horribly inequitable as this last deal was will you be ok with it? Oh if course in your and Tib’s eye Biden can do no wrong. Sounds kinda cultish doesn’t it? 🤔7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:And that would be hard for Putin to find another salesman? Ya, doubt that
Salesmen are a dime a dozen
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1 minute ago, B-Man said:
Jim, I believe that you see the difference as I outlined in my reply and as the Court spelled out.
There is Freedom of Religion in this country, no matter how much the Left hates it.
Where the cake is baked is unimportant IF it is being used for a ceremony that the baker is opposed to due to his/her religious beliefs.
While the Restaurant owner was refusing a religious group the use of his business.
It is all liberal grandstanding anyway. Does he really think that in their daily business people who are against abortion (>50% of Americans) aren't eating there ??
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So refusing business due to religious beliefs is not a two way street? If the restaurant refuses to cater the group at a church would that be ok? It seems very hypocritical to me. -
4 minutes ago, B-Man said:
No.
Again the Supreme Court was clear.
This restauranteer is breaking the law. Refusing to engage in his daily business and by discriminating against a specific group.
in ALL the cake cases, the baker DID serve gays in his shop daily and had nothing against anyone, he simply requested that he not be forced to participate in a ceremony that his religion did not recognize.
Yes, it can be a slippery slope, BUT in this case it is pretty easy to see the difference.
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Help me understand this. I am 10000% behind the bakeshop but a 10000% against the restaurant. Is there really a difference or is this my old fashioned conservative bias showing? Is baking a cake that could have been picked up at the shop? -
11 minutes ago, BillStime said:
This POS had two years to get PW out... what happened?
That POS Biden has had two years to get PW out…..what happened? 🙄 -
1 hour ago, TH3 said:
Seriously ….what the hell is wrong with at least half of the posters here? How did you get so bitter?
Dealing with people like you. 😁 -
2 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Taco Bell is popular Mexican food too. -
3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
Don't worry I'll go back to ignoring his tired routine shortly.
But for now it's too fun calling it all out.
My routine of asking questions is tired. That’s fine. Ignore me. You can pop in periodically to tell me to ***** off because that’s your sad routine. Do you do that in person to people you disagree with? Whoops….question.
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Just now, BillsFanNC said:
No. I didnt quote it. I plagarized it!
and more questions!
You can't help yourself can you? Stop piggy backing on others' original thoughts by just asking questions about others original thoughts. Or can't you think for yourself?
Throwing in with @BillStime suits you well!
I know what needs to be done. I want to hear what you suggest. -
40 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
I know you pine for the political media coverage days of 1987 where it only existed in print and nightly news broadcasts....
But get with the times man. Twitter is indeed the digital town square where news coverage germinates. Crying about it won't change it.
By all means keep up with the get off my lawn stance to combine with your tired PPP routine. It suits you perfectly.
Good morning.
Thanks for the advice……
Oh I’m sorry. You don’t like that tired routine that I’ve not used in years.
Twit on!
15 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:I'm going to plagarize Elon Musk here.
By quoting him.
I guess ole Chef didn't learn in culinary school that when you attribute someones own words to the person who spoke or printed them, then it isn't plagarism...
And if I had stated this at PPP as my own original thought it would be much more relevant and newsworthy than the new owner of Twitter saying it. Because that would allow Chef to ask me questions...
What is woke?
What is a mind virus?
What is the woke mind virus?
Why does nothing else matter?
Are you referring to the Metallica song?
Wow, that’s some deep thought there you just quoted.
So….what do you suggest be done? Or will you wait for some Twit For Brains tell you what to do?
Elon shines a light on censorship and then calls for censorship. Awesome
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16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
Or pistols at paces.
Well that’s a bit drastic. -
24 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:
Grow a sack
F*** off
I'm gonna call it a draw. 😂
Penalty kicks?
Not discrimination to refuse cake sale.
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The fact that I don't think everything in the Bible actually happened in mockery? Again with the hypocrisy.