jrober38

On his campaign he said at multiple rallies that he'd never come back if he loses. He couldn't care less about his voters.

Agreed. If he wants to go down that path, he's setting the country up for widespread violence. You can't discard democracy because it didn't work for you and expect people to lay down quietly.

He's not going to get to the Supreme Court. That's why he keeps screaming garbage on Twitter. For that to happen, he needs to actually win a court case at a lower level, which has yet to happen. Until they come up with some actual fraud, particularly on a level that could overturn the result, this will never get anywhere close to the SC.

His base is non-college educated white people who get their "news" from Fox, Breitbart, OANN and Newsmax TV. It's a cult. Whatever supreme leader says, they'll believe.

Trump is currently running the same playbook most successful dictators ran to secure power. He's currently in the "undermine election results" phase, with the next phase being to establish himself as a dictator. After that, there will be no reason to hold any elections whatsoever.

Exactly, Trump and the far right are beginning to yell and scream about having legit election results thrown out because they don't like the outcome. They scream about widespread fraud but have yet to show a shred of proof to support their claims. If he's successful, the US as we know it will cease to exist and will become a dictatorship, because at that point why would there even be an elections in the future? Just forego the democratic process entirely because god forbid the result isn't what the dictator wanted them to be.

This isn't really true. There are multiple people watching the counting of mail in or absentee ballots, and for each ballot that gets counted there are adjudicators from both sides to make sure ballots are being counted correctly and that improper ballots are discarded. On top of that, there are poll watchers surveying the count to make sure it's run properly. No one is afraid of recounts. On average recounts move a state level vote about 200 votes one way or the other. Biden's lead across the swing states is far beyond the level of a recount changing any of the outcomes. The issue is that the Trump administration is not allowing Biden's team to begin the transition of power in the middle of a pandemic, with cases, hospitalizations and deaths spiking across the country again.

They have no evidence. All of their lawsuits have been laughed out of court. Their angle today is to avoid the courts (where they'll lose) and try their case in the court of public opinion. The right wing is claiming that because the election suffered from wide scale fraud (again, no proof) that the election results in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia need to be thrown out completely. The state legislatures in each state need to refuse to certify the results because of rampant fraud (no evidence) and toss the results out entirely. Under that scenario, no one reaches 270, and the US House of Reps chooses the next president based off a delegates system in which the majority of Reps in each state determines who chooses the delegate. In that scenario the GOP holds 28-22 advantage. If Trump heads out and starts holding rallies next week, this is what they'll be pursuing. The end of democracy. Throwing out legit election results solely based off them not liking the outcome and they'll essentially be trying to install Trump as a dictator, in power against the will of the people.

The idea out of right wing crazies yesterday and this morning is to pressure state legislatures in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Georgia to not certify the election results because of "widespread fraud". They want the election results tossed, with neither Biden or Trump reaching 270. In that situation, apparently state delegates in the house would elect the next president and the GOP holds a 28-22 advantage there. If Trump begins holding rallies next week with this as his talking point, this will be the end of democracy in the US if his plan is successful.

Unfortunately for Donald he can't pardon himself for crimes at the state level. The very smart lawyers at NY's Southern District know this and they'll be bringing lawsuits against him at the state level vs the federal level. No. It's all facts. All of their claims have been easily debunked. They haven't been successful in a single post election day lawsuit yet, because they have no evidence to support any of their claims.

Nothing beats being proud of being scammed by a con artist.

Good thing we have lots of Allies.

It's right on his website. Feel free to donate as much as you want. 60% of your money just goes into Trump's pocket in the name of his "Save America" fund which is just repaying the money he spent on his campaign.

Who is Canada at risk of being attacked by?

A few thoughts. 1. Trump is definitely siphoning money from contributions into his pocket. 2. Trump wants to keep his base fired up. 3. Trump will run again in 4 years, and easily become the GOP nominee. 4. Trump wants to put Biden in the worst possible position to govern, putting them in a huge hole as they begin their administration by not allowing the transition of power. 5. Trump hopes to kneecap Biden's administration, trying to increase his odds of voters and especially independents wanting him back in 4 years. It's all about Donnie. Everything he will do over the next 10 weeks will be fully designed to help his re-election chances in 4 years. He'll sacrifice the American people and the economy now if it helps him in 4 years.

Grifters gonna grift. They scream about fraud, and meanwhile the money they're collecting to investigate fraud is actually being used to repay the money they spent on a losing election.

You're not acting reasonable. You're holding out hope of a smoking gun to expose wide spread election fraud among tens of thousands of ballots, and up until now there is no evidence whatsoever that any fraud occurred. That's not a reasonable position.

Unlike the last four years where Trump and the GOP threw crap at the wall and let the court of public opinion decide issues, Trump actually needs proof to be successful in his current lawsuits, which he has none of so far. All of their lawsuits are being tossed because they have no proof. Trump is going to leave Washington by Thanksgiving and probably never return. The US Government will function as a rudderless ship until Jan 20.

Due process is great if you have proof, which is something they have none of so far. Also, no one on your side seemed to care about due process for Trump's impeachment. They haven't won a single lawsuit yet, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PROOF. Also, Trump sent out fund raising emails and texts yesterday to pay for legal bills. The fine print read that up to 60% of those contributions would go to Trump to pay him back for the money he spent on his campaign. He's just grifting his followers into paying him back for the money he spent on his campaign, so he can walk away whole and they can put up their hard earned dollars to try to save the Titanic from sinking. And not allowing Biden, the presumed overwhelming winner in the electoral college, to begin the transition process in the middle of a pandemic is NOT good for America. It's probably the opposite, where Biden inherits a raging pandemic with minimal time to put his people in place.

Trump knows there is something very serious waiting for him at the Southern District of NY.

Pretty much every one of the examples of "voting irregularities" has been debunked. Unlike the last four year where Trump and the GOP could say things and let the court of public opinion weigh in on those topics, in this situation when they say things they'll need to actually prove their claims to be accurate in a court of law, which involves presenting evidence. Without evidence, which they've yet to present in a single one of their numerous lawsuits, they're going to continue getting wrecked in court. All of these races outside maybe Arizona is outside the scope of having any chance of being overturned. Biden will at a minimum win Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Georgia and Pennsylvania, which is why Trump should begin the transition of power, even if he wants to continue wasting his money in court.

Without Trump on the ticket both Senate seats could be up for grabs. Meanwhile Democrats will be as motivated as ever to tie up the Senate and give them power to do what they want.

Voters has to line up regularly for 6+ hours to vote early in Atlanta. I think the first couple days early voting was open some people waited 8-9 hours. If that doesn't discourage someone from voting I'm not sure what would.

Because there is none. All of the GOP talking points are complete garbage. Just lie after lie after lie.

No. I think they wind up just lumped in with the mail votes. The difference is they have more time to arrive so I guess some more could come in (the deadline is tomorrow at 5 pm).